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nathans1012 1/16/16 10:36 AM

Tony Stewart into stand @ Chili Bowl to confront heckler....
 
Tony Stewart goes into stand at the Chili Bowl to confront Heckler.
Looks like smoke has got the fire back. :6: Think fan bit off more the he can chew.

http://sportsandgoal.com/nascar/brea...-confront-fan/

nathans1012 1/16/16 10:47 AM

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Link to article is fixed.

Sprints fan 11 1/16/16 11:10 AM

Its funny how tony calls him a ***** and the guy shoves him. He has to get his friend to push him down. Tony is so tough.

Charles Nungester 1/16/16 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sprints fan 11:
Its funny how tony calls him a ***** and the guy shoves him. He has to get his friend to push him down. Tony is so tough.

Oh please, I've seen the longer clips and the blue shirts were securit
You try to go about your buisness with some drunk screaming curse words at you probably for the last three nights, Just not then.

Tony called him on it and the guy shoved tony first.

Sprints fan 11 1/16/16 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
Oh please, I've seen the longer clips and the blue shirts were securit
You try to go about your buisness with some drunk screaming curse words at you probably for the last three nights, Just not then.

Tony called him on it and the guy shoved tony first.

It comes with the territory. Tony should be used to it. Didn't know he couldnt handle it. Like what was tony going to beat him up?He needs to grow up.

Charles Nungester 1/16/16 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprints fan 11:
It comes with the territory. Tony should be used to it. Didn't know he couldnt handle it. Like what was tony going to beat him up?He needs to grow up.

Yeah, With fame comes some of that crap. It also don't excuse the fans actions. Grow up? Grown ups face their problems. Tony faced his problem. The end.

mlamb 1/16/16 12:15 PM

The unfortunate part of this is, since Stewart was involved it'll get plenty of publicity. And many whom don't go dirt track racing...they'll assume that's how it is at dirt tracks. When in fact 99.9% of dirt track people (fans owners drivers crew ect.) are extremely professional and conduct themselves accordingly. This isn't good for anyone! 👎

Sprints fan 11 1/16/16 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
Yeah, With fame comes some of that crap. It also don't excuse the fans actions. Grow up? Grown ups face their problems. Tony faced his problem. The end.

Ok then every time Tony gets flipped off and called a name he needs to go after them. Sounds good. Let me get my popcorn

Charles Nungester 1/16/16 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprints fan 11:
Ok then every time Tony gets flipped off and called a name he needs to go after them. Sounds good.

I didn't say that. Tony is also kinda co-promotor. I can't tell you how many times I seen earl and some boys escort people out, Sometimes with a blackjack to the back of the head. Even escorted Johnny Herrera out of the kings royal right through the fans for stopping on the front straight and throwing a finger fit a the flagman and officials.

If your going to act like a idiot, Don't whine when your called on it or get what you deserve.:44:

Sprints fan 11 1/16/16 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
Yeah, With fame comes some of that crap. It also don't excuse the fans actions. Grow up? Grown ups face their problems. Tony faced his problem. The end.

Ok then every time Tony gets flipped off and called a name he needs to go after them. Sounds good.

racer5c 1/16/16 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprints fan 11:
Ok then every time Tony gets flipped off and called a name he needs to go after them. Sounds good. Let me get my popcorn

the drunk guy is a Tulsa Police Sergeant, he didn't just flip him off, he said over and over " f*** you who you gonna kill tonight" it wasn't a case of him just flipping Tony off one time but then again maybe your the kind of person that does the same **** as the drunk police sergeant

Sprints fan 11 1/16/16 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by racer5c:
the drunk guy is a Tulsa Police Sergeant, he didn't just flip him off, he said over and over " f*** you who you gonna kill tonight" it wasn't a case of him just flipping Tony off one time but then again maybe your the kind of person that does the same **** as the drunk police sergeant

I did not know the rest of the story. The guy was out of line.

CTtoPA 1/16/16 1:20 PM

Originally Posted by Sprints fan 11:
Ok then every time Tony gets flipped off and called a name he needs to go after them. Sounds good. Let me get my popcorn

If more people got popped in the face for being obnoxious I'll bet it'd happen less often. You're saying Tony should act like an adult because the other adult is being childish?

Sprints fan 11 1/16/16 1:34 PM

Originally Posted by CTtoPA:
If more people got popped in the face for being obnoxious I'll bet it'd happen less often. You're saying Tony should act like an adult because the other adult is being childish?

I am saying it comes with the territory. He needs to get some thicker skin. Not everyone likes tony. Too many people trying to make a buck. Whats he going to do next time it happens? Was it wrong what he said? Yes.

kinser 1/16/16 1:48 PM

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I didn't say that. Tony is also kinda co-promotor. I can't tell you how many times I seen earl and some boys escort people out, Sometimes with a blackjack to the back of the head. Even escorted Johnny Herrera out of the kings royal right through the fans for stopping on the front straight and throwing a finger fit a the flagman and officials.

If your going to act like a idiot, Don't whine when your called on it or get what you deserve.:44:

Herrera got booted out because one of his crew guys was mashing some guys head into the track with his foot. LOL

TommyTipover 1/16/16 1:49 PM

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Unfortunately the lawyers will be quick to point out that Tony was the aggressor. He could have chosen to stay out the stands, but he didn't. He could have chosen to not put his hands on the fan, but he did.

kinser 1/16/16 1:55 PM

Here is what I heard from my buddy that is out there: the cop was extremely drunk and at one point told Tony he was going out to his car and get his gun and he would be back. What a great representative for his police/ sheriffs department.

kinser 1/16/16 2:01 PM

Also heard that there has been some big blow up at USAC and that Jason McCord and Jason Smith have both quit.

Charles Nungester 1/16/16 2:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyTipover:
Unfortunately the lawyers will be quick to point out that Tony was the aggressor. He could have chosen to stay out the stands, but he didn't. He could have chosen to not put his hands on the fan, but he did.

Fortunately, you need some credible witnesses on your side. I doubt the cop has any.

Scooter23 1/16/16 2:15 PM

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Article in today's Tulsa World newspaper has some backstory....

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...a7733f010.html

Guy is probably not one of Tulsa's Finest...

Sprints fan 11 1/16/16 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by wright59:
Sprints fan 11, Just my opinion but I think you must be a moron that doesn't really know much about open wheel racing. You're one of those guys that talk too much before you know that facts. I'm guessing your skin is pretty thin!!:11;

Wow really? That's an intelligent observation. I express my dislike towards tony and I know nothing about open wheel racing. Interesting.

JstAbvVMC 1/16/16 2:51 PM

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The off duty deputy screwed up,,,PERIOD. No matter what you may think of someone personally, as an officer or deputy you are, and should be, held to a higher standard of conduct. Engaging in the overconsumption of alcohol and then taking someone because of your personal opinion or views of this person is unacceptable. And to those who call BS because he was off-duty I say too bad.

When you put on the badge you accept EVERYTHING that goes along with it, the good and the bad. Unfortunately, there seems to be an erosion of ethics in law enforcement these days…

rockstar5 1/16/16 3:20 PM

Athletes should also be held to a higher standard a as well right? Your wrong!!!! Police officers athletes are all human. This is America! I'm so tired of the political correct bs. If you have something to say say it. It's just to bad the fan didn't bust Tony in the mouth.. He's still the same punk he's always been and after what happened to Ward you would think Smoke would understand he's not untouchable... One day he'll mess with the right person. Tony walked up in the stands and put his hands on the heckler first. If anyone was in the wrong it was Tony.

Rpracing1 1/16/16 3:42 PM

What a black eye for the Tulsa police department and law enforcement across the country. Deserving disciplinary action should follow their internal investigation.

Charles Nungester 1/16/16 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rockstar5:
Athletes should also be held to a higher standard a as well right? Your wrong!!!! Police officers athletes are all human. This is America! I'm so tired of the political correct bs. If you have something to say say it. It's just to bad the fan didn't bust Tony in the mouth.. He's still the same punk he's always been and after what happened to Ward you would think Smoke would understand he's not untouchable... One day he'll mess with the right person. Tony walked up in the stands and put his hands on the heckler first. If anyone was in the wrong it was Tony.

Wow, Just wow. I've now seen three twitter post from people sitting around the guy that they were glat it "GOT TAKEN CARE OF" Because They had had enough.

Vukie 1/16/16 3:51 PM

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Investigation opened into Tony Stewart Chili Bowl altercation

http://www.motorsport.com/midget/new...cation-668335/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM

Chase Hightower 1/16/16 4:10 PM

Cracks me up! If youre Tony you should just take it and take it? Maybe the guy got what he deserved. Law enforcement or not some people need their mouth busted. I guess some people that post things, with no knowledge of what happened would be ok with someone busting their chops several days. No backbone I take it to stand up for yourself? The drunk has a right to yell whatever he wants. He also has a right to receive an a--beating? Fairs fair.

mc/rider 1/16/16 4:32 PM

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Tony wanted to ask,just how bigga boy are ya? (Roy D Mercer)

Steve Wendel 1/16/16 4:46 PM

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Tony should have sent Shane Cockrum,aka Alex Shanks:5:

Puppy 1/16/16 5:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rockstar5:
I'm so tired of the political correct bs.

NO disrespect, but you need to learn the difference between Political Correctness and common decency/moral behavior ect.... And yes Political Correctness IS bs!

Flatrightrear 1/16/16 6:38 PM

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Why did security people not intervene before the two ever got together? They didn't do their job unless everybody wanted to see a little indoor fireworks show. What a bunch of high school BS.

Midget 89 1/17/16 9:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rpracing1:
What a black eye for the Tulsa police department and law enforcement across the country. Deserving disciplinary action should follow their internal investigation.

Let's get the police Departments correct. The heckler was not a member of the Tulsa Police Department. He was a county deputy.

___________
Wes Stafford

trannyman 1/17/16 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
Yeah, With fame comes some of that crap. It also don't excuse the fans actions. Grow up? Grown ups face their problems. Tony faced his problem. The end.

you're right,no excuse for what the fan did.however,that's why there is security at these and other sporting events.point the person out and have them removed.we don't see stadium owners,or coaches going into the stands to confront the unruly.they send security to do their jobs.security failed the fan and tony.what IF the fan had a weapon or it turned into a free for all.tony wouldve been in danger,also.

PIT CART 1/17/16 12:09 PM

Tony should have beet the guy a$$ in my opinion. If it would have been a black guy on the tractor and someone called him a racist name the head lines in the paper would be a lot different. I Am glad I grew up in a time where if you had a problem with some one you could just take care of it right on the spot.

Charles Nungester 1/17/16 6:38 PM

Re: Tony Stewart into stand @ Chili Bowl to confront heckler
 

Originally Posted by PIT CART:
Tony should have beet the guy a$$ in my opinion. If it would have been a black guy on the tractor and someone called him a racist name the head lines in the paper would be a lot different. I Am glad I grew up in a time where if you had a problem with some one you could just take care of it right on the spot.

Amen, If you had a bully problem, You either whooped or got whooped but usually a mutual understanding was met. Sometimes a simple. Im not taking it anymore would suffice.

2016 call the cops for everything...........

xoxide 1/17/16 7:26 PM

I'd be willing to bet, if I were a betting man that if it was just the average joe racer who got into a confrontation with the off duty officer (or anyone for that matter) it would not have been blown out of proportion nor getting "investigated"..... Tony has a whole lotta money, and people see any opportunity they can get to sue someone (whether they're right or wrOng) to try and profit off of someone.

I wish I had grown up in the era being spoken about above.... Simpler times, and a simple solution to a simple problem.

B99 1/17/16 8:08 PM

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Just to preface this, I enjoy a cold frosty one as much as anyone, however......

I see this type of guy all too often at the track, whether it's the weekend race track, a NASCAR or Indy Car event. They are an embarrassment to the sport and to themselves.

People who get so drunk that they can't stand up, fall all over people, get so obnoxious that people either are afraid of them or want to belt them in the mouth. And for some reason, they believe they have a right to act this way and drink this way simply because they bought a ticket to a sporting event. I know many track ops need to sell beer to keep in business yet sometimes I wonder if the trouble it causes is really worth it. Do you suppose it keeps other fans away who don't want to deal with people like this guy in Tulsa?

Yes, a police officer on duty or off duty is held to a higher standard. It's part of the responsibility they take when they decide to wear the badge. Had people complained about the guys behavior I imagine security (at many tracks) might have come and told the guy to calm down or take a hike. As they should.

And do the critics and keyboard jockeys realize that this upstanding off duty cop was yelling and mouthing not at a driver, but a member of the track crew? A guy prepping the track? Seriously? If someone behaved this way everytime that Tommy Helfrich or Reese O'Connor walked past the stands to the track, wouldn't you think the guy had a serious problem? Would you want to sit next to him, or have your kids sit next to him? Want to drive the same highway as him on the way home?

What difference does it make that it was Tony Stewart?

Charles Nungester 1/17/16 8:33 PM

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While sometimes the fan gets smashed in the event. Doing so at 7 bucks a beer isn't practical to them. Most of them arrive that way. have a flask or something.

xoxide 1/17/16 9:08 PM

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BLASTER1 1/17/16 9:26 PM

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I am sure most of you know the BEER in Oklahoma is only 3/2... not even real beer....SMH


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