New winged asphalt sprint car series
 

We've been talking to past and some present drivers/owners whose cars have been
sitting idle for the past couple of years. The most common complaint is the engine and tire costs.
So far we've had interesting feedback from some high profile teams about claimer engines and tire rules. Most say one tire all night, hot laps included.
My question today is why aren't your cars out and what changes would it take to get
them out.
I would be interested in starting a group in the tri-state area with cost containment in mind. We need to save ourselves.
I will listen to positive feedback and constructive criticism.
John

Re: New winged asphalt sprint car series
 

Get rid of the dirt wing,claim your own identity

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305's on American Racers! :5::8: Home track, such as Springport!

Racesaver engines, dirt cars, open tire. It would be the best thing going on pavement.

Take the wings off to save the stress on the motors. American Racers are a must too. Plan a schedule that allows for the budget racers to be there. The 2 good pavement series that are left start out with a 10+ hour drive and one of them ends in Cali. Average working people can't afford 2 weeks on the road.

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Originally Posted by Rich Mersereau:
Racesaver engines, dirt cars, open tire. It would be the best thing going on pavement.

Too many pavement cars out there to go "backwards' to the dirt cars....

Really? There's 10 times more dirt cars, they cost less and are much simpler to assemble. Plus the racing would be great, fans would love it and that is what really matters.

Dirt cars racing on pavement is not safe. I have first hand experience in a tragedy with the end results of a dirt car on pavement. There is nothing wrong with the pavement cars of today. What is wrong with pavement racing is you took a good group of pavement teams and then forced them in half. With some inexpensive tweeks to the rules, readjust the pay, and working with other tracks and series that are around pavement numbers can and will go up.
Nick Landon

Nick you are 100% correct about the current state of pavement sprints. When SOD first tried pavement in the early '90s the racing was spectacular, watching Brett Mann smoke his right rear all the way around Kalamazoo was bad-ass.

U get there at 5:30 hot laps at 6:00 racing at 7:00 green white checkard hot laps not 2-3 sessions for everyone to keep dialing there car in and buying tires spending money qualify in your heat race group that u will run and starting position in heat will be your time in your group top 2 in heats go to a dash where u finish in dash is where u start in feature dash is 6 laps only one rr tire a night can buy a lr every other race fronts every 3 races try to keep it as local as possible and instead of paying it all on top pay everyone that starts the race the same money like 500-700 bucks because we all know u don't make money u just want to race and stop on front stretch and even if u win in other series u buy so much to try and win if u do u only make a couple hundred bucks unless u keep winning races with 10 cars all year and winning races with 10 cars who cares because u spend so much so u would make more doing it this way.

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I'm outa breath, u ever take a break! Didn't understand a thing, just one long line of characters! Bob

Lol sorry never claimed to be a writer

Punctuation, can't even read that.

Originally Posted by Rich Mersereau:
Nick you are 100% correct about the current state of pavement sprints. When SOD first tried pavement in the early '90s the racing was spectacular, watching Brett Mann smoke his right rear all the way around Kalamazoo was bad-ass.

Wow doesn't sound very cost effective to me😳

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Originally Posted by Dave38:
and instead of paying it all on top pay everyone that starts the race the same money like 500-700 bucks because we all know u don't make money u just want to race and stop on front stretch

Food Stamp 500?

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Originally Posted by Dave38:
U get there at 5:30 hot laps at 6:00 racing at 7:00 green white checkard hot laps not 2-3 sessions for everyone to keep dialing there car in and buying tires spending money qualify in your heat race group that u will run and starting position in heat will be your time in your group top 2 in heats go to a dash where u finish in dash is where u start in feature dash is 6 laps only one rr tire a night can buy a lr every other race fronts every 3 races try to keep it as local as possible and instead of paying it all on top pay everyone that starts the race the same money like 500-700 bucks because we all know u don't make money u just want to race and stop on front stretch and even if u win in other series u buy so much to try and win if u do u only make a couple hundred bucks unless u keep winning races with 10 cars all year and winning races with 10 cars who cares because u spend so much so u would make more doing it this way.

Huh? :5:

Pace Performance in Boardman Ohio now has developed both a 602 and 525 sprint engines. Might want to consider something like that. The new Dirtcar Pro Sprints will use the triple sealed 602 engine.

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If you want to keep the cost associated with the wings down take the wickerbills off and mandate a flat wing. I'd love to see MSR and AVSS go to a flat wing without a wickerbill.

-Brad Wyatt

We already have two viable pavement wing series now . And I'm pretty sure we're good right where were at Now if you're talking dirt that's a whole different story

ASCS is the way to go

Good luck keeping American racers from blistering one of the fastest pavement groups in the country the nsra went to American racers in 2015 and had nothing but problems with them even with 450hp 604 crate motors. ASCS motors and hooser tires are the combo and you have to run your tires all night but you get to check in 5 so most check a second rr. Works very well.

I prefer the Non wing version of asphalt racing. Davey Hamiltons wing series is getting fairly strong on the west coast. We usd to have the non wing 360 USAC series on the West Coast, and until the recession it was a strong series with 25-35 quality cars. Proved too costly to survive the downturn. Unrestricted 360 aluminum engines, Hoosier tires, as many as you like to use. CASA existed for a short time and was a lower cost alternative using American Racer tires. I think the USAC Western States could be resurrected if the iron block 23 degree head engine rule was adopted and also institute a number of tires per race rule. Meridian Idaho has a great budget class called Pepsi Sprints. 602 Crate motors, strict tire and weight rule.

The northwest is an awesome place for pavement sprintcar racing along with the west coast just in the northwest you have medera CA, salt lake ut, Meridian id, state line Id, Monroe wa,roseburg or, Victoria BC and I may have missed a few. I wish usac would come back to life I loved racing non wing but 22 wing cars taking the green on the 1/4 mile at Meridian Speedway is a fun night racing with some of the fastest pavement sprintcar drivers in USA.and the 602 cars at Meridian is a bad ass class

Originally Posted by mfjmotorsports:
Good luck keeping American racers from blistering one of the fastest pavement groups in the country the nsra went to American racers in 2015 and had nothing but problems with them even with 450hp 604 crate motors. ASCS motors and hooser tires are the combo and you have to run your tires all night but you get to check in 5 so most check a second rr. Works very well.

Try putting some air them. Had zero problems at Bristol in 2011 on ART.

And Winchester. Salem. IRP. Kalamzaoo. Five Flags. Mobile.