Purse Payouts
 

Which do you prefer...TOP laden purse as:
1. 4000
2. 1500
3. 500
4. 300
5. 200
6. 150
7. 125
8. 115
9. 110
10. 100
and down $50.00 to start

Or would you prefer throughout the field:
1. 2000
2. 1000
3. 800
4. 700
5 600
6. 500
7. 450
8. 400
9. 350
10. 300
and down with $200 to start

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Wayne

With a purse like that who cares.:D I guess I fall somewhere between "Start" and "Tow".

Perhaps if owners and drivers would ever consider the fact that we are performers, providing entertainment for the folks in the grand stands and not simply prima-donna's racing for their own glory and self gratification, the better off all racing will be. Sure we have stand outs but even they should help keep the program interesting.
I don't care much for NASCAR sometimes they look a little to scripted but I also don't like watching a long line of cars doing nothing but following the car in front of them.

I know a guy that likes 3 wide racing maybe even 4 wide at times so does the crowd. If everyone racing adds to the excitement then they should be rewarded. We need to get away from the back gate Go Kart mentality and start putting on a show for the folks in the grand stands and not just or own Ego's.

Get the track size down>>get the cars all competitive and not over priced, put on a show and expect compensation for doing a good job.

No I am not a Communist just an old guy that thinks racing should be entertaining and just maybe if the purse evened out, the money payed to the racers, the teams with good backing will have just a little less money for their cars or other activities. At the same time the other guys in the cast just might get enough money to be able to afford to come back the next week and help put on another show.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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As a car owner, I prefer spreading out the purse. As a fan, I prefer spreading out the purse. They won't notice but I plan on attending my first King's Royal in 2016. They are finally spreading out the purse. Nuf sed. :6:

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Slight correction. They ain't spreading out the KR purse. They're adding 50k through the purse.

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Final Night of The Super Bowl Of Racing's Gator"DIRT"Nationals was formulated in "SPREADING" out the purse as you can see. But with a strong team and some "LUCK" before/during/after the racing 1 racer could come out of this deal $6,500.00 total with Purses and Bonuses + contingency awards...

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I think you have to balance the payout against the cost to enter/race. We always totaled up the cost of entry fee/pit passes/tires/fuel and placed that against the payout and looking realistically at where we thought we could finish and see if it was financially viable to enter that race. Most promoters base their payout on how many cars they need to put on a good show. If they have more cars than they need and can afford to lose a few based on the payout, they will put more money up front to get the better cars/stars. If they need the cars then they will move more money to the back to be sure they can attract the cars they need.

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Thanks a lot party pooper. I was going to go because it seemed they were spreading out the new total purse amount. Bah, Nunbug! :47:

Dad
How did you get that smart in that few of years ???

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Bobby

It's plum simple. When I started out touring with the QMA CIRCUIT BACK IN THE 50'S AND 60'S we stayed at and were kicked out of a lot of Holiday Inn's. Most folk would consider me more of a Smart A$$ than smart but at my age I really don't care. I do care dearly about this new form of Midget racing. Like going back to our roots so to speak. If the young guys developing it use just a little common sense they can hopefully come up with a set of guidelines that can make spending tons of money on an engine to be of very little benefit.

I see it as just a progression from Mini Sprint Racing. New motorcycle motors are becoming harder to find and increasing in cost every year. There is a lot of competition just to find a low mileage motor. On the other hand there is an abundance of late model 2.5 liter automotive motors in every scrap yard all over the USA. By allowing both Motorcycle power>Automotive power>chain drive and drive shaft cars race together we open up a lot more possibilitys. Heck I am for allowing older Full Midgets to race also and perhaps even the new midgets if some form of easily enforceable restriction could be developed.

One suggestion I came up with was bringing back the 10" Right rear tire. You, being a racer from that era what is your opinion on using tires for restriction? Would it even up a 150-200 HP power advantage? Would you allow the lower powered cars to race on 12"? Or as most people seem to think I am just Bloviating (Got that word from Bill O'reilly;) )

Maybe you could take a vacation down south this February and check these DII Midgets out, looks like the pay is going to be pretty good?

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

You know one of my pet peaves is paying the same amount from 15th to 24th. Make every position mean something even if it is $10 more per spot!

To answer your question I would prefer spread through field and also reward the guys in the B that don't make the big show

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I agree somewhat stagger but in my case I would rather give $200 for those 10 spots and it not be $100 differents from 15 to 24....I also pay each and every racer that does not make the show if they make an attempt at a green not just the B main racers... and I fill the last 2 spots of my show with what I call a promotors draw...any racer that did not make the show have their #'s are put in a hat and the pole guy pulls out 2 and they start 25-26

I'm a low buck racer and do not have the means or experience at this point to run up front,but with a purse like this a guy can afford to make a trip knowing that he has something coming to him. It makes me feel appreciated that I made the effort to come race. Thanks for putting this on. Hope I can make it

What was the nightly average car count for last years GDN?

26-23-24....already have 33 commitments...paying twice the purse this year

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Wayne

I think what got the most votes was>>>>>"More$$" plain and simple. :)

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

I think I have covered both of what racers want... $$$$ spread throughout the field and $$$$ to start along with Non-Tranfer $$$ for EVERYONE.... This is a big start...just need racers to support it so this can grow....still need sponsors for Features....lap $$$$ and Title sponsor for Race of Champions, 5 laps $500.

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There is only one winner. Pay them $1400 to $2000 but pay the rear finishers $200 to $300 plus fatten up the b-main as well. The guys in the rear's money is just as green at the sign in booth. Most of them don't have the front runners budget and that increase would bring more racers to the track. A rear purse increase should be done with all divisons. I agree with the idea of $10 difference between the spot.
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D.0. thanks for the input this is what I have decided to do...I think it is a good purse for Division II midgets and have already got over 30 commitments to come south in Feb. It pays good up top....better than Nationals midget purse in the middle and good money to start. Also it pays ALL that did not transfer to the "A" instead of a hot dog and a smack on the ass with a thanks for coming.

I know the Gator"DIRT"Nationals are only in the second year put this is WAY above what you could make at the Tulsa Shootout and you get 3 full night of racing with 3 full purses instead of being there for a week and running your heats then sitting for 2 days till you run the feature on Sat. night. We the GDN does not have the clout that Tulsa does with the Golden Driller but we are racing at the "Golden Isles" of Georgia and having The Jack Hewitt Classic 40

If I get any kind of sponsorship money it will go to the back...Thur. and Fri night non-tranfer $$ will be $100 instead of $75 then Thur. and Friday from 10th on back would be
10. 190
12. 180
13. 175
14. 170
15. 165
16. 160
17. 155
18. 150 on down to 24
Promoters Draw
25. 125
26. 125

If ANYONE would like to get on board Please let me know ... YOUR $$$ will go straight to the racers for making this trip. Thank you guys and gals for all the input....
Wayne Davis

in your Series, what percentage of cars are Lightning SPrints, adn what percentage are Midgets? How competative are the Lightning Sprints with the Midgets? Of your winners this last year, how many were Lightnings and how many were Midgets? Curious to maybe make a long trip to Georgia in February to race there, but don't want to find out my Lightning is not competative under your rules

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Steve, I replied to your email last night,,,,will call you later today...thank's for the inquiry. Couple of Cali guys are looking to make the trip also. Yes with the GDN rules and weight difference Lightning sprints are competitive. Go to ssmidgets.com/gd-nationals for EXACT rules

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Remember I WILL NOT add more $$ to win. I will spread it out from about 8th on back. I am a firm believer that it takes EVERYONE to put on a show and you guys are entertainers and we can not put on a show with only a handful. Please submit you entry asap so you can be added to the growing list of entrants.

You do not have to send your pill draw (entry $$) up but if you do it is a savings.

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THE way I looked at purses convert to percentages 100% to win and down from there. I like no duplicate pay outs above 15 th.
place

I agree wall, seems like 10th on back being the same is the new norm

I think that this has become the new norm because of car counts dropping in many places. The idea of giving a larger base amount just to show up and run is a hopeful way to attract more cars.

I look at it like a poker tournament payout but with everyone getting something to help offset travel etc. There is only so much money that can be divided out. What % of the total purse should be utilized to to give back to all the participants? I do not believe that everyone deserves a trophy but everyone does deserve a little something back in there wallet. Even if it's enough to pick up a dinner tab for the crew.

This is why if I get any sponsorship $$$ it will go to Thur. and Fri. nights bottom 1/2 and bring up the $75 non transfer to $100 or more...I need everyone to be able to put min of $100 a night in their pocket!!!

Have you considered not having an entry fee to race that might just be a drawback with weather being an issue at that time of year for us up north to venture your way.