410 Non Wing Sprints & Mini Sprints @ TCRP
 

Saturday, September 26th - Twin Cities Raceway Park in North Vernon, Indiana

Join us Saturday for Non-Wing 410 Sprints, MMSA Mini Sprints, Modifieds, Purestocks & Hornets.

www.twincitiesracewaypark.net - Rules, Payout and other information.
812-346-RACE

Did you know we pay $200 to start sprints and $100 to start Modifieds?

Can YOU Tame the Twin?
Adult Admission - $12 grandstand / $30 pits
Children 12+ under free in the grandstands

Gates @ 3:30pm - Drivers Meeting @ 5:15pm

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I hope they get the money to put up a new fence over the winter. Fast sprintcar track.

Why is the fence always brought up.cars flip in the pits at other tracks and nothing is said about those tracks

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I don't see the big concern people have over this fence, vs at other tracks, I race there, and it doesn't bother me, give it a rest, worry about something else, the most of the drivers that race there don't worry about it! Sheesh! Bob:deadhorse:

My exact thoughts glad someone else agrees.

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OK, When you see a hornet take down the whole darn fence entering three, go over and almost take out the pit sales booth. What happens when thats coming out of four? The whole grandstand comes down and the people in it.

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But with everything else, Guess you gotta learn the hard way. I don't want to be there to see it happen

Same at a lot of other tracks why is it a big deal at this track

Charles it is what it is we choose to race there what's the difference in Brady going over the fence at TSS or anyone one else and landing in the pits what happens when someone's standing there what about ballou taking the fence down at Kokomo there's many other places.. Racing comes with danger it's part of it not being a smart ass just saying it happens a lot of places and people pick on twin cities yes we all know it needs wrk but it's a place to race and the people who don't like it don't come but the ones that do support another track giving us a place to race I flipped out of turn 2 at waynesfield and missed the fence and made it all the way to the pits luckily no one was standing there the next week a front axel cleared the fence landed between two trailers.. Stanbrough cleared the fence coming out of turn 4 at Kokomo in the truckers car a few years back there's many many more to name

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If you can't see the difference between that fence and any other, then you don't get out much. Compare the fencing at Lawrenceburg and Kokomo to TCRP I agree Mr Hupp that anything can happen anywhere, but every car that touches that fence, tears it down. I do not remember Stanbrough getting over the fence at Kokomo, but A J Hopkins cleared it in turn 3. With insurance companies controlling all of racing, a catastrophic accident, with negligence could spell the end of our sport.

Get out much you need to look at the fence at 90% of the tracks.if It was not for a light pole at Bloomington dicke Gaines would have mad it into the stands been a couple times sitting in turn four thought cars where going to clear the fence it will happen some day

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I agree that anything can happen anywhere at anytime but I've not been to many other tracks that I've felt that a car hitting the fence would come through it, into the stands. Kokomo, Gas City, Burg, Even Brownstown would in most cases keep a car from landing in the stands.
I've seen two cars hang on the fence at Bloomington. But sitting high, I feel relatively safe I seen a car with the old fence at Eldora land on the flat outside the fence in turn four. I even seen a car find the one gap in the fence at the old burg to land near the pit table I also seen Gordon a rookie at 13 go flying off three and through he pits at the old burg at probably 70mph.

That fence at TCRP is garden fence post a strong man could bend, Like I said, I seen a hornet go through it like it didn''t exist. Didn't even slow it down and I went to two sprint races there after that.

I know racers know the dangers any time they get in a car. Fans should be reasonably safe IMHO even though it's never 100%

Go, Have fun, I'll pray for saftey and would probably be there if I could. Just wish someone would even in incriments improve the catch fence.

Chances are you would be a car wreck going to or from a race track before you get hit by a car in the grand stands at any track.

They took the dirt off the wall which helped a lot, when the previous promoter had it the dirt was high on the wall.

Many race tracks need improvements, not just Twin Cities. The only thing that concerns me and the other competitors is cutting tires. It is a product of the land in the area and pieces of stock car parts, sharp rocks, etc. The race track has been racy and well prepared though! Keep up the good work, Rick, Renee, The Ogles, Mike, and crew! Hoping the rain will dodge us Saturday! See everyone there!

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Montpelier got lucky, I have no idea what it cost them, but they bought used ones from somewhere, and were able to adapt them for their use, it would take a turd boat full of money to put up something like that at TCRP, yes, it would be worth it, over the long haul, but in today's market, who knows how long we'll be able to watch dirt racing anywhere, and, TCRP isn't privy to gambling money to make improvements, that I know of! Bob

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Oh Gee, I wasn't aware anyone mentioned one of the two tri state tracks with compete speedway fencing, While Idea. Its not totally necessary. There are other ways. THAT's is made up of half the poles being old railroad track.

The fence and wall project at Montpelier was a very very expensive project. Granted we did it as high end as we could (it has been certified to over 200mph). It was easily the most expensive project we have taken on. That was even with us doing the labor and getting a deal on the material.

With that being said with the sprint flip at the BOSS event, the fence 100% did its job and kept everyone safe. The cost of the fence was 200% worth the money we spent.

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It is the people in the grandstands that could get hurt. Don't you see?

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Brian, I have a friend in your area that keeps me pretty well up on what's going on at your track, he knows you, and I'm sure you know the old pest yourself, he's a native to the area, lives just out of Portland, what you guys were able to do, was a once in a lifetime deal, and as you say, not the least bit inexpensive, what TCRP has is what they've had as long as I can remember, it is chain link fence above a high, concrete wall, that has also been there forever, it is a "fence" to keep most of the big chunks of track, and parts off the spectators, it maybe deflect a race car out of the crowd, but that's it, I'm no expert on the subject by any means, but if the insurance company is satisfied, then it must at least be "somewhat" approved, which again, doesn't mean it's "safe", I think we can all agree that nothing is safe, but having gone there for years, both as a driver, and car owner, and spectator, it works for me, could it be better, of course, anything can, but even at Indy, a spectator got taken out, by a tire, almost as high as he could've been from the catch fence. You've managed to do what a lot are unable to do, and willing to try new classes to help pay for your investments, but then a lot are unwilling to step out of the box. Maybe TCRP will come across something the State Highway is removing that would be a usable catch fence, I just get tired of the whining about it, same thing at Whitewater, what was being broadcast there was about something they were working on to finish, and couldn't stop, because it would've meant shutting down their season, it wasn't a part of the track safety, it was building new seating for the paying customers, beats me! Bob

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People need to quit bringing up the fence at Twin Cities. No fence is perfect at any race track is perfect. :10: If you don't feel safe at watching or racing at Twin Cities, stay home!!

Brady Short just flipped out of the ball park and over wood billboards at Tri-State a month or so ago, didn't see a huge out cry on here about it. I am sorry but, Brownstown, Bloomington, and even Lincoln Park's fence would not hold back a sprint car if one decided to go through it.

The only reason the hornet went over the wall and through the fence at Twin Cities years ago, was because the dirt had built up over 2 plus years of not being graded down. The point at where the hornet went over the wall there was only 3 feet or so of wall showing and he ramped up over the fence. I raced a mini stock those years and that build up of dirt on the wall was a nerve racking and I prayed that I didn't end up crashing and hitting and going over myself.

The new track promoter and crew are doing a great job this year. Some of the best racing I have seen there in a long time. Love seeing the Sprint Cars back. Keep up the great work!!

I will be there drinking my Yingling watching some great sprint car racing!!! :22: :32:

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Still don't know why people pick this track to go on about a fence when like I said others are as bad or worse

Linton > TCRP

I was at Devils Bowl when Jeff Swindell cleared the frontstretch fence and his car landed completely in the grandstands. I've seen sprintcars clear the turn 3 wall at Knoxville. Seen Dean Jacobs completly clear the turn 1 fence at Eldora.
Race cars will always go where you least expect them to and end up in the most unlikely places during a crash.
Certainly some tracks could improve their fencing no question.
I know of a race team that went to a track once apon arrival they saw something they didn't approve of safety wise in the wall. They didn't race there that night, they left and raced at another track that same night.
I'm more worried about people texting and driving and drinking and driving.
The most dangerous thing I'll do is pull out of my driveway. Ha!
Hope all racers crew & fans have a safe weekend at all tracks!

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Name one time that fence stopped anything. I would not have said a word if you didn't defend it. name one track that has modeled their catch fence after TCRP. It is what it is and has been that way forever. It seems as though they are trying to do good things there, and hope they have success as that would be a very expensive project, especially if they do not own the property. I doubt you can actually name a track that is worse. Comparable, but not worse.

Non one says anything about going out of the ball park at THAT right? Seen sprint cars land right beside people and on top of parked cars in the parking lot or let's not forget Daytona when larsons car blew in pieces and parts went through the fence there?? Even the best fences don't wrk somtimes it's part of it if it's gonna happen it's gonna happen

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That driver happened to win that night at Putnamville. The problem was rebar sticking out of the wall and the owner refused to clip it off. As it turns out that might have been the worst race i've ever seen. Can anyone guess the driver and the track?

Linton = Salem

Salem has had multiple cars out of the park this year. Same issue that TCRP had with dirt building on the wall, however Rick and his crew have done a great job trying to improve that facility.. Salem needs to do the same.

I know the fence protects the fans, but what protects the driver in a hornet... ?

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Union Co Speedway, Liberty In.?

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Having been there that night, as I recall, the rebar was in the new spectator section, and had been bent over, so they could continue pouring cement/concrete for new seating, I don't recall seeing any sticking out of the concrete wall on the track side. Bob!

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I do stay home. Fact of the matter is they don't get the racers I want to pay money and see. My own choice. Thanks.

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:19: Daytona? At That at least you feel safe in the grandstand.

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The one thing that I love about Indiana, is all of the race tracks one can go to. If you are a race fan, you have choices on what track you go to, what classes you can go watch, and what drivers you want to go watch.

I think that people need to quit complaining and putting down other tracks on a public site. This thread was meant to promote the race this Saturday at Twin Cities. If someone has a reason for not going to Twin Cities this Saturday, then keep it yourself. There is too much complaining about tracks on here and all it does is hurt the sport. Instead, take someone who has never been to a dirt track to watch a race, wherever that might be.

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It was Union co and there was rebar sticking out of the wall as well as in the stands. I don't think they would have thought it unsafe if it were just in the stands. The driver btw was BC and the win at putnamville was maybe his 2nd or 3rd win I think.

Thinking about going to twin cities Raceway Park tonight for some great non wing racing is the weather looking good and hopefully that we will see some great racing events.