A few things I'd like to see USAC try next year: 1. Return to Paragon - I know a sprint week date would not be considered but how about a good old regular USAC sprint show!
2. Bury the Hut Hundred since its not going to be back at THAT.
3. Eliminate the Burg from midget week and replace it with Haubstadt.
4. Run a Silvercrown at the Burg instead.
5. Start the Haub 100 at tristate co sanctioned with POWri ARDC and Badger.
Just some random thoughts ready, disect!

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I only agree with one. A Paragon race.

Id like to see Non transfers through the heats start behind the 16 who did regardless of their QT.

Why replace burg midget week? Just add one at Haubstadt

Champcar, One more dirt mile, Maybe two if Syracuse is getting dumped after this year.

I think Haubstadt did hold the Hut Hundred a few years ago

I love the burg but its becoming obvious that midget owners don't.
People say its not the Hut Hundred unless its at THAT. I went to one of the ones they held at Tri State great race!
One I forgot earlier, USAC events with 18 to 24 cars should have a format change: qualifying, 3 heats, 2 Qualifying races to set the feature and the feature. Two qualifying races would be better than an one 8-9 car b main.

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Actually I wouldn't mind seeing the Silver Crown boys at the Burg. I'd like to see USAC at Paragon as well for the sprints.

Also, why not swing the series south to a place like Devil's Bowl and/or somewhere else before they head for Arizona and California to end the season?
Love seeing new tracks on the schedule. That's one freedom we have as far as dirt goes, tracks are abundant.

Just a few ideas

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:

Champcar, One more dirt mile, Maybe two if Syracuse is getting dumped after this year.

According to the reports on the web, the Syracuse grandstand and race track are definitely going to be demolished at the end of this season. They are building a controversial ampitheatre a mile away from the fairgrounds to hold concerts during the fair. LOL People in the Syracuse area don't want the new concert venue but they are going ahead with it anyway. New York tax dollars at work. hahaha

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I only agree with one. A Paragon race.

Id like to see Non transfers through the heats start behind the 16 who did regardless of their QT.

Why replace burg midget week? Just add one at Haubstadt

Champcar, One more dirt mile, Maybe two if Syracuse is getting dumped after this year.

I think Haubstadt did hold the Hut Hundred a few years ago

So a guy that qualified terrible gets put up front in the heat and runs 4th due to a 1 lane track should start in front of a quick qualifier that started 6th in a stacked heat? Not a chance. If a driver can click off a quick lap in qualifying, he deserves a fair starting spot. Not in be 9th row.

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YES Return the thunder series:deadhorse:
USAC at a Mich track, maybe Butler, MTS had a good car count there:44:
USAC Sprints at Oakshade OH:8:
Get TSR back & put Ballou in the car:32:
Bring USAC back to what it was :6:

Salem

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1. Get the USAC Champ Cars on the schedule during the Missouri State Fair at Sedalia and run the 1/2 mile track. They just had sprint cars there during the fair last Sunday night and the place was packed

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Here is my Wish List for 2016.

1) USAC Midget and Sprint Car two day opener at Lincoln Speedway Late March.
2) More TV races for us poor fans who are geographically challenged.
3) I too like the idea of a race at Paragon.
4) Silver Crown race at either Williams Grove, Hagerstown or Bridgeport.
5) A safe race season for all drivers!

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These wish list posts crack me up. If Haubstadt wanted the Hut Hundred, they would still have it. Other tracks mentioned if they were interested in a race could have one. They are not interested.

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Bring the sprints back to Iowa, at 34, osky, and Knoxville. Right before the Nationals. If we are wishing. I know wishing, but they sure are fast at those 3 tracks.

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Return of the Buckeye Nationals. Limaland, Attica, Waynesfield, Atomic, Moler and Eldora.

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USAC Sprints or Midgets or both At Limaland

USAC Sprints or Midgets or both At Attica Raceway Park

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Originally Posted by Beinthecircle:
So a guy that qualified terrible gets put up front in the heat and runs 4th due to a 1 lane track should start in front of a quick qualifier that started 6th in a stacked heat? Not a chance. If a driver can click off a quick lap in qualifying, he deserves a fair starting spot. Not in be 9th row.

Damn straight, You got guys that started behind them in the heats who managed to find a way to transfer spot. Which means they beat em and raced into the top 16.

Yet a person who went out early before the track burnt up and got a quick lap gets to start 7th. The non transfer from the heat should have to beat those who beat him. Not automatically be placed in front of some of them.

1. Kokomo swap day of the week with Lawrenceburg for ISW. I am not sure why Lawrenceburg's day is a Sunday when they normally run on Saturday and Kokomo's date is a Saturday when they run normally a Sunday. It maybe due to travel.
2. Give Brownstown an ISW race back. I am not sure if this was because of the water truck incident or not.
3, Somebody mentioned a silver crown race at the burg. Great idea.
4. Midget race at the burg. Leave it alone it's great.
5. Keep doing what they are doing. Racing is awesome.
I know I am a little partial to the burg.

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USAC/BOSS combined show,border war kinda race.USAC/POWRI come together on some shows.

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USAC's sprint week show on Sunday is specifically due to the Napcar race at Kentucky. Which is run on Saturday.

2 day Ky weekend...KY Lake and Paducah

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Originally Posted by mc/rider:
USAC/BOSS combined show,border war kinda race.USAC/POWRI come together on some shows.

Agreed. For the midgets, more USAC/ARDC & POWRI co-sponsor shows. Pennsyltucky midget races were great... good car count when they work together
Bring back Ultimate Challenge in Iowa
Nebraska races in April/ May not same weekend as New Orleans Jazzfest! (I know this doesn't matter to most folks beside me!)
NO SERIOUS INJURIES OR FATALITIES!!!!!

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Midgets-Sprints-Champ Dirt Cars
at West Liberty,Iowa.
Best Regards,
John

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I only agree with one. A Paragon race.

Id like to see Non transfers through the heats start behind the 16 who did regardless of their QT.

Why replace burg midget week? Just add one at Haubstadt

Champcar, One more dirt mile, Maybe two if Syracuse is getting dumped after this year.

I think Haubstadt did hold the Hut Hundred a few years ago

If your going to add, let be Plymouth Speedway. The usac midgets put on a great show there!

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Bring back the Put 100 instead of Hut 100.

Buckeye Nationals USAC/ARDC and just run Boss on the sprint car side.

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
USAC's sprint week show on Sunday is specifically due to the Napcar race at Kentucky. Which is run on Saturday.

Really? You mean someone wasn't looking at the logistics of race teams, fans etc being able to have two races within in 30? miles of each other on consecutive nights?:11:

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Really? You mean someone wasn't looking at the logistics of race teams, fans etc being able to have two races within in 30? miles of each other on consecutive nights?:11:

Lawrenceburg was on Friday night (ISW opener) for a few years and then off to Gas City and Kokomo Saturday and Sunday to save travel. When the inaugural Cup race at Kentucky happened and it was the same weekend as the ISW opening weekend, Lawrenceburg requested a move to Sunday and got it.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Really? You mean someone wasn't looking at the logistics of race teams, fans etc being able to have two races within in 30? miles of each other on consecutive nights?:11:

There was some wheeling and dealing between the sprintweek date and midget week date. IDK why When midget week started it was like a Mon-Fri deal and Lburg was on Monday that was well before Rudisell

Sprintweek, Only Bloomington's been on the schedule every year since it's inception. Many dates and tracks have switched around.

I remember driving to Kokomo for ISW the first year KY had the sprint cup. About noon I heard on the radio. If your not already on 71 south off of 75. YOUR NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. I laughed my tail off. Got to Kokomo about 1 and had a hell of a good time.

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Two night show at Lakeside Speedway on Nebraska swing first night sprints next night Champs

Originally Posted by BrentTFunk:
These wish list posts crack me up. If Haubstadt wanted the Hut Hundred, they would still have it. Other tracks mentioned if they were interested in a race could have one. They are not interested.

Hey buzz kill, thanks for your insight and contribution to the discussion. Some fans just want to share what they wish they could see next year, which is usually pretty positive (a rare find among so many discussions). Not all of us know everything quite like you do, but most of us are intelligent enough to know that a lot of what we would like to see could happen if a promotor, sanctioning body, and enough fans want it to.

I'd be interested in a USAC race at Montpelier, and more late model races in northern Indiana.

I would like to see a 4 crown type event at Hartford to start the season. The 4 crown at Eldora, my favorite event of the year, is the best way to wrap up the Midwest season, why not start it with one? The silver crowns would be awesome there.

1. Got to 2.4L production midget engines. Watch car counts soar and then you can revive the "Hut 100" at Terre Haute after it gets resurfaced with its original type of dirt.
2. For sprints: eliminate front sway bars so they aren't so much different than wing cars. This gives a non-regular a better perception that he can be competitive. Also, go to the next step harder 16" tire. Enough track records have been set this year to tell me they're a little too hooked up.
3. Mandate halo bars on all USAC registered cars. At least protect your own drivers.
4. Someone should help non-Indiana guys set up their non-wing sprinters. They need help.
5. A full grandstand at Springfield next year to see the real Plastic Express win the race on an overcast day running the cushion.
6. The return of the Ultimate Challenge. Once again paying $30,000 to win.
This ain't too much to ask is it??

Almost forgot. Go back to 8 car heat inverts and the old rules regarding the Bmain. Also, invert 8 in the A-main. At the very least, invert 8 on Half miles or bigger. The heats at THAT are no where near as good as they used to be.

How about giving Illinois some love and giving us a sprint race or two. Also, Terre Haute should get something other than midweek races. I know they don't like scheduling against local tracks, but THAT deserves a weekend crowd too.

NASCAR has the Daytona 500
IndyCar obviously has THE 500

Give the Champ Car series a premier event that pays more. If the Mo State Fair can do 13k to win for 360 sprint cars, surely one of our mile dirt tracks could see a raised purse at some point in the season.

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I second the World Finals wish. Would probably push it to a 4 day show, and doubt the counts would be too high given the Oval Nats on that weekend, and the Western World the following. Potential schedule re-work if it was worth it.
I could also see a big strain on teams if the national points schedule took them to Charlotte, then Perris, then Arizona (lord knows what AZ track will hold what event year after year.. different argument.) But, it is a wish!

I'd also like to see more joint shows with WoO like they did at Eldora this year, and how CRA has done at Perris in the spring. Why is it so taboo to have the absolute best in sprint car racing on the same ticket? Who loses in that deal. Obviously the WoO are gonna be the feature card, and allow them to draw the usual crowd, but use the attendance to let the USAC guys put on a show! I'm sure plenty of tracks could support it.

And finally! I'd like to see USAC send some surveyors down I-65 and 75 to scope some tracks to hit on the way to/from Florida speedweeks in Feb to maybe get some dates through Tennessee and Georgia.

I suppose you could say 'wishful thinking'... :6:

Bring back the true copper classic at PIR , midgets , sprints , crown , supers , now then , for the silver crown , if you run a pavement race then a dirt race like at irp then the fairgrounds and use the same car for both car owner and driver get double points .. And or using the same car for all crown races make sure the owners get double points . ,,,,, Just thinking,

Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam:
1. Got to 2.4L production midget engines. Watch car counts soar and then you can revive the "Hut 100" at Terre Haute after it gets resurfaced with its original type of dirt.
2. For sprints: eliminate front sway bars so they aren't so much different than wing cars. This gives a non-regular a better perception that he can be competitive. Also, go to the next step harder 16" tire. Enough track records have been set this year to tell me they're a little too hooked up.
3. Mandate halo bars on all USAC registered cars. At least protect your own drivers.
4. Someone should help non-Indiana guys set up their non-wing sprinters. They need help.
5. A full grandstand at Springfield next year to see the real Plastic Express win the race on an overcast day running the cushion.
6. The return of the Ultimate Challenge. Once again paying $30,000 to win.
This ain't too much to ask is it??

Most sprint cars don't run a sway bar anymore. You can go through the pits and see a lot of empty tubes hanging off the front. There are obviously differences between a wing and non wing like front axle width.

Next thing on your list a 16" tire, well that is also already in effect. The Hoosier medium is a 16" wide tire. Records are falling because horse power has increased and guys have found ways to hook the cars up better (like with shocks).

I don't disagree with the halo. Safety is something that always needs to be improved and anything that can be done to make them safer I'm all for.

Now the inverting of 8, well let's just say I don't see that as a positive. If we want safer we can't put guys that are going to be considerably slower in front of the fast guys. My solution is invert 4 in the heats then do a random draw for feature invert 1 through 8, similar to the outlaws. Then if you have to run the b you are lined up according to time behind the guys who transferred through the heat.(not your point but just quoted you for the other couple)

My last suggestion is if you go 2 or more laps down you get dq'd from the event or if you are more than 2 seconds off the pace on the bigger tracks. These guys are good for the show, but can become very dangerous for the leaders, when in USAC a lot of guys are racing for a living and drive very hard, when you throw a much slower car into the equation it becomes dangerous for all involved.

I don't have or know the perfect solution, but it's fun to toss around ideas.

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Who's to say that they didn't have a bad lap or have their car set-up right ? If they're faster , than they shouldn't have a problem getting around the slower cars!

On the edge- I know they already run a 16" tire. I said the next step harder one. I know many of the cars don't run a sway bar but many do. It's about perception, like I said. The format you suggest is what they run at Knoxville and it sucks! 4 car inverts are a total joke. I went there three times this year to give it a try and am not going back next year. USAC racing is still the best so not a big deal if nothing changes.

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
I would like to see a 4 crown type event at Hartford to start the season. The 4 crown at Eldora, my favorite event of the year, is the best way to wrap up the Midwest season, why not start it with one? The silver crowns would be awesome there.

I would love that too, thought about it many times, but we just can't bankroll that type of event, yet.