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ronmil 8/8/15 8:15 PM

Salem
 
Anyone have any information on the Joe James-Pat O'Connor Memorial?

MOORESVILLETRUCKER 8/8/15 9:10 PM

Originally Posted by ronmil:
Anyone have any information on the Joe James-Pat O'Connor Memorial?

Just found out maybe 12 sprints and 20 or so stock cars of some type

Nate 8/8/15 9:29 PM

Brian Gerster won it

ronmil 8/8/15 9:34 PM

Thanks! Glad I'm at LPS!

Tony74 8/8/15 9:40 PM

Dang hate to hear they were light on cars. I know Hanks was working to get cars out.

team3521 8/8/15 9:51 PM

There were 10 cars at Salem. Bobby Santos had a mechanical failure and scratched. 9 cars started the feature.
Gerster set fast time and won. Jimmy McCune finished second.

sewsprint 8/9/15 9:56 AM

Re: Salem
 
How sad.......

Geoff Kaiser 8/9/15 10:21 AM

Re: Salem
 
http://racechaseronline.com/2015/08/...-memorial-win/

ronmil 8/9/15 1:13 PM

Re: Salem
 
So sad that they can't get more cars to run in this race. I first attended the Joe James-Pat O'Connor Memorial in 1967. It was a 100 lap race then and every big name driver in USAC was there. I believe Sonny Ates won in the Iddings car, but I'm not sure.

Clydesdale 8/9/15 1:45 PM

Does anyone know if they were charging full price to watch a heat race?

FishBurger 8/9/15 2:34 PM

Re: Salem
 
My first James-O'Connor Memorial 100 lapper was in 1961. Parnelli Jones (Midwest USAC Sprint Champ) and A.J. Foyt (Eastern USAC Sprint Champ) were both carrying the number 1. Like Ron's post above for '67, all the "big dogs" were there on this day. McCluskey, Branson, Marshman, Hemmings, A.J. Shepherd (in the Hoffman car, I believe), Tingelstad, and more. It was a terrific race won by Parnelli to my dismay as I was rooting for Foyt. A.J. did win in it '62 I didn't think then that I would ever miss this event......now, I wouldn't walk across the street to see it. Sad...

Nate 8/9/15 3:09 PM

Re: Salem
 
Must See has been hurting for cars all season. Other than the Little 500 I haven't seen them have more than 10-15 cars in any event. Even series mainstays like Jo Jo Helberg don't even run it fulltime anymore. Not one of those big pavement sprint fans but sad to see any open wheel series or track have trouble drawing cars.

BrentTFunk 8/9/15 3:35 PM

Re: Salem
 
Can you imagine the uproar if this was a USAC race? In their defense pavement seems to be hurting and Must See hung in longer than most. Hope this slump doesn't continue too long.

1121 8/9/15 6:26 PM

Re: Salem
 
For you pavement naysayers, on July 25, AVSS had 25 cars at Kalamazoo and on August 1, MTS had 22 cars at Auto City on only their third pavement race ever (it was non-winged). The cars are out there and willing to race.

Tom Paterson
PDP Racing

ronmil 8/9/15 6:41 PM

Re: Salem
 

Originally Posted by 1121:
For you pavement naysayers, on July 25, AVSS had 25 cars at Kalamazoo and on August 1, MTS had 22 cars at Auto City on only their third pavement race ever (it was non-winged). The cars are out there and willing to race.

Tom Paterson
PDP Racing

Could it be they don't care for the high banks? There were always some drivers who wouldn't run on "the hills". The most notable I can think of was Bill Vukovich.

Xflagman 8/9/15 9:27 PM

Re: Salem
 
You are right Ron.

1121 8/9/15 9:50 PM

Re: Salem
 
I can only speak for our team and I will not subject this board to my conjecture on why other teams did not participate, but our team not being there had nothing to do with the banks. Both Jim and I have run there (and Winchester) multiple times and actually Jim does very well at the high speed places.

Tom Paterson
PDP Racing

BrentTFunk 8/10/15 5:55 AM

Re: Salem
 

Originally Posted by 1121:
For you pavement naysayers, on July 25, AVSS had 25 cars at Kalamazoo and on August 1, MTS had 22 cars at Auto City on only their third pavement race ever (it was non-winged). The cars are out there and willing to race.

Tom Paterson
PDP Racing

Wasn't trying to be a naysayer, I like pavement. It seems things go in cycles. The little 500 had a really good car count also this year.

snoopy 8/10/15 9:56 AM

Personally, for me, my wife, and mechanic the unloading of everything and reloading is a deterant. It's not
A toolbox, couple tires, and a couple jerri cans on an open trailer any more.
About any other weekend we would have been there. Family matters come first.

Sam Davis

TQ29m 8/10/15 11:33 AM

Re: Salem
 
I can remember going to Salem, now this has been a while back, so far back, they were running late model convertibles, but back to the front, sprint cars, midgets, the East Coast Modifrieds, you couldn't park anywhere, cars and haulers, infield was full, stands were full, don't figure, same track, same cars, no cars or people, no interest? Don't know, generation gap I guess! Bob

Seadog 8/10/15 4:24 PM

Re: Salem
 

Originally Posted by Nate:
Must See has been hurting for cars all season. Other than the Little 500 I haven't seen them have more than 10-15 cars in any event. Even series mainstays like Jo Jo Helberg don't even run it fulltime anymore. Not one of those big pavement sprint fans but sad to see any open wheel series or track have trouble drawing cars.

And technically this is a double sanctioned event. USSA (Kenyon) also sanctions. People seem to forget about that.

FishBurger 8/10/15 4:57 PM

I'm NOT a pavement naysayer. On the contrary I loved pavement and dirt equally well back in the day. Not just Salem, Winchester, and Dayton, which were breathtaking, but I never missed a sprint or midget event at IRP, Tri-County, New Bremen (after they were paved) either. Sonny Ates at Dayton.....you had to be there.


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