Silver Crown Technical Update
 

USAC TECHNICAL UPDATE - TB2015-SC001

SILVER CROWN SERIES

Date: April 9, 2015

Date Effective: April 9, 2015



TITLE: Tires



Dirt

Hoosier tires are the only approved rear tires for competition in 2015. Specific compounds for each event can be found on the entry form of the event.

Any team that attempts to qualify for the Hoosier Hundred on May 21st at The Indiana State Fairgrounds will receive two right rear Hoosier tires at no charge.

Beginning with the September 6th event at The DuQuoin State Fairgrounds competitors must utilize Hoosier tires on all four corners of the car.

Pavement

Tires will no longer be impounded by Hoosier or USAC prior to the events.

That just made it more expensive.

Except the price of the tires went down as well.

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Guess Hoosier didn't like Swanson winning the Championship on American Racers!

If you can't beat 'em....get 'em outlawed! Btw how much are the new Hoosiers anyway?

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Well, I remember Andy Hillenburg asking for suggestions on what to do to help the Silver Crown series. I said give everyone a year heads up on rule changes. I see USAC is back to their old self again.

Also , Hoosier couldn't beat American Racer on a mile if it had to. They tried everything to improve their tires and couldn't do it. Just think, they don't even have to try to improve their product anymore.Just keep making the stuff that didn't work before.

Also , thank you to American Racer, you always treated us well when we used your tires, and you always gave us a better product then the guys in purple.

Another decision made by USAC to benefit themselves instead of the teams that support usac. Get rid of a better product with a better price. Still self serving like usual.

Beginning to look like an antitrust case is needed against Hoosier. Seems the pretty much have a monopoly going across the board in open wheel short track racing.

Uggghhhh. Every major series has a tire rule. Why people get upset with this is beyond me. If AR wanted to be the official tire of USAC, they could do it. Just win the business the next time it goes to bid.

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AR had won the business. Springfield , Hoosier Hundred, just to name two. They're less expensive and perform better. This I know, I've used them. Sometimes you just can't beat ********, and we all know there are no ******** in USAC, don't we.

The business is won at the board room not the race track. AR knows this. They used to be "the official IMCA" tire. If you wanted to race an IMCA mod, you needed an AR tire with an IMCA stamp. Nothing new here.

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That's what I was thinking. Not a big fan of the way USAC does SOME things, but :6: for the two free tires.

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And Hoosier "stole" that business too.

We raced IMCA Sprints with both the A/R "Hockey Puck" and it's Hoosier replacement. The A/R held up better, refired better and had superior hot & cold traction than the IMCA Hoosier.

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By USAC ruling in favor for only Hoosier Tire, maybe this is how they are paying for Davey Hamilton's salary?

I really don't understand everyone's comments. I'm not for either side. I run American Racers in NZ. We ran American Racers on some of the miles last year. Hoosier has helped me for many years as well. USAC, like almost every other sanctioning body, wants to have a tire rule. In order to have one, the tire manufacturers have to supply both dirt and pavement. Not just the dirt. From what I understand, both tire companies made a proposal. AR was not ready with a pavement tire. The 2 companies were within $2 of tire price. I realize all of the facts weren't given to the general race fans/public. Please realize there is usually more information that the powers that be have that you don't. There are plenty of sanctioning bodies out there that have AR tire rules. I guess I'm getting more sarcastic in my old age but if you don't want to watch cars go around on Hoosiers and support the best open wheel racing around, then go catch some modified races. Rant over. Goodnight.

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Wow i guess thats just the way it is then ...

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The problem I have with it is that OK, AR doesn't have a pavement tire.

It still hurts someone that has a AR sponsorship, Hoosier going to take that over when it becomes illegal to run AR tires anywhere on the car even on dirt? Thats the thing that helps get racers to a track.

Whats next, You gotta run ACME shocks and Widget bars and a XYZ Chassis?

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Now days we don't always build a better mouse trap,we just cage the mouse and say it was ours all along.

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And from the first time a car horse met a car. Racing has always been about competition. The competition should be on the track, Not in a bank account.

So Coondog, how much is the Hoosier? I paid only $165 for American Racers from Tony Rose who also helped me with set ups. The Hoosier guy was an a$$. You also failed to answer why USAC had to do this. Obviously, sanctioning bodies do this to line their pockets. I ran 2 races on one set of American Racer fronts and they still had life. Hoosiers were junk after one. They always are.

Well they probably "had" to do it, or risk losing the money Hoosier brought to the table, which I am sure is a substantial portion of the crown purses and/or point fund. In return hoosier is giving competitors 2 free rears. I also believe they agreed to sell the tires at basically the same price of an American Racer, but don't qoute me on that. So either run Hoosiers or don't race, that's the choice. I think most would rather race and have respectable purses than trying to squeeze a second race on a front tire. Most series have a 4 corner rule, it is nothing new. I don't know what people expect honestly. It's not like sponsors are jumping to throw money into a silver crown race or any race for that matter. They are going to take money from wherever they can, and if that means everyone has to run the same tire so be it. Everyone would complain if they cut purses in half so it's lose lose.

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Thanks Coondog for coming on here with some of the facts. You have gained my respect over and over this winter (and spring), just simply by explaining your view on the way things really are.

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Well said Coondog! If you don't like it , go somewhere else. Every sport has rules and this is another one to follow.

Folks, theres always going to be something to be unhappy about. I personally know people on both sides and understand both arguments but it came to a conclusion and was settled by the rule makers, concessions were made, lets not carry this so far to create a major negative before the season starts, lets just go race, the cream will still rise, the best man will still win and everyone will do it with the same tire. Plenty of other choices an owner can make such as the important things we seem to forget like CHASSIS, MOTORS, SHOCKS,SETUP. LETS GO RACE!

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I thought the car owners were the rule makers ? A simple sulution to this would be to give the car owners a 1 year notice to get rid of there inventory . And by the way, USAC made a hand shake ageement for American Racer to a 3 year program. Starting in 2014

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I am tired of this tire argument. Rule makers know what's best for us all. Just look around the country, if it wasn't for the rule makers this country wouldn't be in such great shape. So we need to remember that in the long run rule makers know best.