Just a reminder to all drivers and fans that on February 7th at the Southern Illinois Center in DuQuoin, IL will be hosting a Midget and Lightning Sprint Race. This is a non sanctioned event. The rules are posted in previous post but if you have any questions please send.me a PM and I Can send you A copy.

Pits and sign up will open up at 9am
Spectator gate will open at 2:30
Practice is at 3pm with heat races to follow



Spectators 5 years and under is free/ 6 yrs and older is $15
Pit Passes are $20


So far I have drivers from at least 8 different midget and lightning sprint series coming from all over the midwest.

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These are the rules for the Midgets.

To keep things simple to tec and to understand the following rules will apply to the Midget shaft drive cars.

1. Frame must meet minimum requirements for the race.
2. The tire wheel rule shall be open to all competitors. 13" wheels only.
3. Minimum weight for shaft drive cars shall be 1100 pounds with car and driver at the completion of the race.
4. Motor inspection will require the removal of 4 spark plugs and air filters.
...a. With a bore scope we will inspect ports for ANY AND ALL signs machine work or grinding we will expect to see casting marks in the ports. Cars with plenum injection may be exempt if we can not view ports from the throttle body. Their Throttle bodies will be checked for stock configuration and size.
...b. Focus powered cars get a pass on this (porting is allowed).
...c. Kenyon Midgets will more or less be racing under the same rules as stock block shaft drive race cars.
...d. IRS racers will not have to race with restrictors designated by their club the USAC Honda racers will be expected to have the proper sized restrictor in place. (help me out here guys???) our intent is to keep it simple.
...e. The minimum weight for a 600cc powered upright Midget will be 800 pounds car and driver at the end of race.

If any of you guys with the IRS want to come down and race we will sure try and find some nice used (already been tested tires) for the back of your race cars free of charge. Just let us know, much better than throwing them out going down the road.

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I know we may not have lots of part trucks or suppliers at this race so I wanted to offer everyone the following offer.

If any of the teams that will be racing at DuQuoin on February are needing any racing items or parts delivered at the race please let me know. I live very close to several racing shops and stores around the Brownsburg, Avon, or west side of Indy. If it is small enough to fit in my minivan I can bring it down for you. Just send me a PM and we can make the arrangements for me to pick up and bring it down. Might save you a few dollars of shipping cost.

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So these are not like the same cars that run Powri or USAC midgets, right?

Just want to make sure I understand what class/series is running on the 7th

They are midgets Just not the POWRI or USAC engines. Some of the same drivers and or cars that raced at the ChiliBowl will be at this race.

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Originally Posted by Avon Open Wheel fan:
They are midgets Just not the POWRI or USAC engines. Some of the same drivers and or cars that raced at the ChiliBowl will be at this race.

Mile

It has taken a long time but I think we are coming to grips with what kind of a race car we really are. We are Midgets and the action can be as good or better than many National Midgets events.

If they do a good job prepping the track and I for sure know they can do that it should be one pretty darned good race.

Below is the A main from the Echotec at Shootout in Tulsa. Because of the newness of the class I do not think they had a full field. With the combination of Focus, Echotec, Kenyon and 1200cc powered midgets we hope to have a full field and some really competitive racing. These cars are very close in performance and I think the outcome is up in the air. We also dug a little deeper and found the A main for the 1200cc cars.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkvyR0pNxkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0qfPKblcU8

Midget Chili Bowl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xaFRbmONbs

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Thanks Dad!

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Jay
I'm sure it's posted somewhere. What is the total show? How many classes besides the midget's? Feature length?
We have a bunch of fans following us down, many first time dirt track fans. I would like to tell them what to expect.
If this has been covered I haven't seen it
Thanks
Jeff Palazzolo

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Jeff

The Junior Sprints are worth the price of admission.:):6::6:

http://stevenaceracing.com/picts/Sprints%20classes.pdf
http://stevenaceracing.com/


Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Red,

The format could change some for the midgets but right now the plan is to have 10 lap heat races with a 15 lap B main and then a 25 Lap Feature. The number of heats and B mains will depend on the car count. Right now the way it is looking I would guess at least 4 heat races and one or two B mains. I am still getting lots of drivers contacting me each day. We have drivers out of 8 different series coming so far from about every state in the Midwest.

The classes are midgets, then the 600cc Side Winders with and without wings. Last time in November I think they had around 30-35 of the 600cc cars so there should be a very strong car count again.

Then the Wing Junior Sprints. Last November they also brought a strong field of cars and put on a great show. These kids are really fun to watch and it looked like they was having a great time racing.

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Jay

Have we checked on push vehicles?:)
Do we have any volunteers?:)
What if we had a race and no push trucks showed up?:D;)
This stuff is new, and the Devil is in the details.:14:

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Originally Posted by DAD:
Jay

Have we checked on push vehicles?:)
Do we have any volunteers?:)
What if we had a race and no push trucks showed up?:D;)
This stuff is new, and the Devil is in the details.:14:
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Honest Dad himself:6::6:

I have talked with Steve about this. We will probably seek a few volunteers for push trucks. Not sure on how many yet we will not need too many. He will provide pit passes to them. If anyone on here has experience at other tracks and would like to come down to help please send me a PM.

We have also been working on obtaining a couple of tow trucks.

Of course if anyone would like to help sponsor this event or provide prizes to the drivers or fans please let me know. All sponsor and prizes will go 100% directly to the drivers and be in addition to the purse of this race.

Lastly if there is any photographers and or video crews wanting to attend this race please send me a PM so we can set things up ahead of time.

Going to roll out Friday. Is there a place Friday to meet up for dinner and bench race? Just curious...... Lol Thanks

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Originally Posted by PatrickMead#13:
Going to roll out Friday. Is there a place Friday to meet up for dinner and bench race? Just curious...... Lol Thanks

Pat

There is a Pizza Hut right in down town Du Quoin, there are also a few good BBQ places. Probably more room at the Pizza place.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

There is also.a couple of motels in Du Quoin. Last I.checked they still had rooms. Marion.and Carbondale are also Good choices for Motels and places to.eat At.

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Originally Posted by DAD:
Mile

It has taken a long time but I think we are coming to grips with what kind of a race car we really are. We are Midgets and the action can be as good or better than many National Midgets events.

If they do a good job prepping the track and I for sure know they can do that it should be one pretty darned good race.

Below is the A main from the Echotec at Shootout in Tulsa. Because of the newness of the class I do not think they had a full field. With the combination of Focus, Echotec, Kenyon and 1200cc powered midgets we hope to have a full field and some really competitive racing. These cars are very close in performance and I think the outcome is up in the air. We also dug a little deeper and found the A main for the 1200cc cars.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkvyR0pNxkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0qfPKblcU8

Midget Chili Bowl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xaFRbmONbs

I was fiddling around at work today I got out my trusty $14.95 at&t flip phone. I set it to stop watch and I clocked the leaders in each of the above races. You should try this and see just how much more you get for another $25,000.00 in engine expense.:);)

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

So can I bring my midget to duquoin? If there isn't any difference then why not?

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ernart

The difference figures out to be about .5 to .6 seconds on a 1/4 mile track, and that was Sammy's and Bryan's times. That wouldn't be the same on a 1/2 mile or a pavement track. On the bigger tracks or the ones where the driver can hook all that extra Horsepower the National Motors would have a big advantage. On the 1/4 mile dirt tracks even the stock block or 1000cc cars can't use all of the Horsepower power on hand. That tends to even things out just a little. I would love to have some of the older Midgets race with us, (most of the other racers right now would not) as long as the track is small enough there is not that big of an advantage with another 100 horsepower.

There used to be a saying that on a 1/20 the mile track the 1/4 midget was the fastest thing out their. On a 1/10 up to 1/5 mile track the 600cc Micros are King, but when the track gets bigger and rougher them little tires just can't seem to get a grip and they fall off rappidly. They tryed putting 1000cc motors on sidewinders up in New York several years ago. the problem was all that extra power just went up in smoke.

When you move up in status to National Midgets the top Drivers also change things a great deal. There are a very few of them that have the God given talent to be able stay on top of a very high performance race car. They are the guys racing out front and then moving on and up to more lucrative although less enjoyable duties.

Keep the Midgets on the smaller Bull Rings 3/8th mile down to 1/5th mile. The racing will be much closer and intense. There will probably be more contact with other cars, but the crowds will love it. If they love it they might go back and tell their friends. Most of them will not be astute race fans and will not appreciate a well executed slide job, or running that right rear up against the cushion but come to think of it at one point in time USAC didn't see the beauty in them slide jobs either. Ask Steve Butler about USAC's feelings on slide jobs.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Originally Posted by DAD:
ernart

The difference figures out to be about .5 to .6 seconds on a 1/4 mile track, and that was Sammy's and Bryan's times. That wouldn't be the same on a 1/2 mile or a pavement track. On the bigger tracks or the ones where the driver can hook all that extra Horsepower the National Motors would have a big advantage. On the 1/4 mile dirt tracks even the stock block or 1000cc cars can't use all of the Horsepower power on hand. That tends to even things out just a little. I would love to have some of the older Midgets race with us, (most of the other racers right now would not) as long as the track is small enough there is not that big of an advantage with another 100 horsepower.

There used to be a saying that on a 1/20 the mile track the 1/4 midget was the fastest thing out their. On a 1/10 up to 1/5 mile track the 600cc Micros are King, but when the track gets bigger and rougher them little tires just can't seem to get a grip and they fall off rappidly. They tryed putting 1000cc motors on sidewinders up in New York several years ago. the problem was all that extra power just went up in smoke.

When you move up in status to National Midgets the top Drivers also change things a great deal. There are a very few of them that have the God given talent to be able stay on top of a very high performance race car. They are the guys racing out front.

Keep Midgets on the smaller Bull Rings 3/8th mile down to 1/5th mile. The racing will be much closer and intense. There will probably be more contact with other cars, but the crowds will love it. If they love it they might go back and tell their friends. Most of them will not be astute race fans and will not appreciate a well executed slide job, or running that right rear up against the cushion but come to think of it at one point in time USAC didn't see the beauty in them slide jobs either. Ask Steve Butler about USAC's feelings on slide jobs.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Go home you're drunk........:32:

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Spartan

I guess you were up to the early hours SIM Racing last night. I clicked on the link Chase provided but I did not get much out of the action, and it put me to sleep. It is however the first time that I ever watched a car nerf another car in the rear bumper and disappear inside the other car.:)

Maybe you guys could plug some numbers in your algorithm and allow stock block and 1000cc cars to race also and see how they compete in the cyber world?

My problem isn't really drinking any more, I used to be pretty good at it but it got to where I had my hangovers before I went to bed so I gave it up. My reason for posting at 3 AM in the morning is something called Sleep Apnea. That means I sleep hooked up to a supercharger. Well it has been harder to sleep lately so I went in for an evaluation and the guy upped my pressure 1" of water. Now my face mask "Farts" all night long and I can't sleep with all that darned farting going on.:5:

I did a little more figuring and it looks like the National Midget front runners have about a 6% advantage over the stock block Midgets on a 1/4 mile track, that figures out about $3333.00 for every percentage point gain in lap time. Don't forget these are the best of the best drivers turning these times in the National Midgets, and the guys in the stock blocks are armatures.

Just like the "World of Outlaws" expect to pay more at the gate to watch a "National Midgets" race.

Racing is expensive>

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

I just wish you wouldn't say you are having midget races at du quoin say it like it is. It's a upright mini or ecotech. There is no such thing as national midgets. Their are midgets and ecotech focus cars and upright minis.

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ernart

Checking back on your profile I notice that you race Montpelier with a Midget. Does it offend you to be racing against that famous Chain Gang, Focus Midgets and Yes even the Echotec Midgets that Harold has seen fit to include in his Midget programs. The reasoning for this is it helps him fill out his field. We have been known to beat a few old Pontiac's, and Fontana's on our excursions up there to race.

I know that it may be a bitter pill to take but some of these distasteful Midgets size cars are as fast or faster than many second tier Midgets. We have always managed to finish in the middle of the pack at Montpelier when racing up there that would mean that several Midget cars have been behind us. I love the format of race cars that Harold has put together and hope that other promoters will want to try the same thing.

When we are diving under that Full Midget powered with a specialty Midget Motor coming out of turn 4 the crowd does not know what kind of car we are in they just know that they saw an exciting move on the race track.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Montpelier runs midgets and allows everyone. You race midgets and only allow ecotechs or mini's. We have raced Montpelier which is a long drive just for track and seat time. I know in your mind you think that the fans can't tell the difference between a ecotech and a midget but I think you are wrong. I'm not saying that ecotechs can't put on as good of a show. I'm just tired of seeing posts about a midget race in Florida or southern illinois just to find out it's not midgets it's mini sprints. Half the damn posts on here are you tooting your own horn about how you can run the same lap times as "national" midgets. Damn that's like the computer racers saying they are faster than Sammy at the chili bowl because they raced online and were fast. I don't know where you finished in the chili bowl this year? And surely you went because you just as fast as Kevin and Sammy.

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Originally Posted by ernart3:
Montpelier runs midgets and allows everyone. You race midgets and only allow ecotechs or mini's. We have raced Montpelier which is a long drive just for track and seat time. I know in your mind you think that the fans can't tell the difference between a ecotech and a midget but I think you are wrong. I'm not saying that ecotechs can't put on as good of a show. I'm just tired of seeing posts about a midget race in Florida or southern illinois just to find out it's not midgets it's mini sprints. Half the damn posts on here are you tooting your own horn about how you can run the same lap times as "national" midgets. Damn that's like the computer racers saying they are faster than Sammy at the chili bowl because they raced online and were fast. I don't know where you finished in the chili bowl this year? And surely you went because you just as fast as Kevin and Sammy.

:8::8::8::8::8: This guy!

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ernart

I guess my question should have been where do you race? If I did not think it would open up a can of worms I would invite you down to race a Du Quoin. I would bet you and I are closer to being in the same boat than you might like. I love Racing>>> Midget racing in particular. I don't think that you or I are planning to race with the real Midgets any time soon. By that I mean the TRO's and MoPars and Big head Esslingers are not on my immediate have to get list. What I am saying is that top rung type of race car is not for everyone. But because my motor does not cost as much as my first house it doesn't mean that I can not nor should not be able to enjoy Midget racing.

Midgets can be for Saturday night racers also and not require a $3000.00 investment to travel to some distant track to race for an enormous purse that actually would not even cover the cost of the travel expense alone.

I don't know where you live but Montpelier is almost 4 hours away for me and I love the idea of going up there to race. If a track was to start a Midget division such as Harold has an hour away from home that would be wonderful.

Because I want this possibility of other tracks seeing the potential of "MIDGET RACING" that is just a little off the Professional high dollar racer. I am all for putting all of these Midget size cars together and racing them. I might be just a little more selective than Harold but not much. In the end the good will win out and the bad will disappear. That is competition, but first we need enough cars to compete. I am sorry that you have to sit at home for the February race>BUT if it does work out we are going to start working on those second tier Midget also.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Originally Posted by DAD:
ernart

I guess my question should have been where do you race? If I did not think it would open up a can of worms I would invite you down to race a Du Quoin. I would bet you and I are closer to being in the same boat than you might like. I love Racing>>> Midget racing in particular. I don't think that you or I are planning to race with the real Midgets any time soon. By that I mean the TRO's and MoPars and Big head Esslingers are not on my immediate have to get list. What I am saying is that top rung type of race car is not for everyone. But because my motor does not cost as much as my first house it doesn't mean that I can not nor should not be able to enjoy Midget racing.

Midgets can be for Saturday night racers also and not require a $3000.00 investment to travel to some distant track to race for an enormous purse that actually would not even cover the cost of the travel expense alone.

I don't know where you live but Montpelier is almost 4 hours away for me and I love the idea of going up there to race. If a track was to start a Midget division such as Harold has an hour away from home that would be wonderful.

Because I want this possibility of other tracks seeing the potential of "MIDGET RACING" that is just a little off the Professional high dollar racer. I am all for putting all of these Midget size cars together and racing them. I might be just a little more selective than Harold but not much. In the end the good will win out and the bad will disappear. That is competition, but first we need enough cars to compete. I am sorry that you have to sit at home for the February race>BUT if it does work out we are going to start working on those second tier Midget also.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Why are you so worried about racing "big midget teams" with your mini sprint???:10:

I'm greatly confused.

Honest Brad Himself :6::D

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I personally think sim racing is great for real life racing for multiple reasons... For one it gets young fans involved and gives them an interest in dirt racing. It gives them an opportunity for a very cheap price to race against real drivers (Kyle Larson, Chris Bell, Rico Abreu, Jay Drake, Kevin Swindell, and many more), on real tracks, and win real money. It lets real life drivers a chance to practice, race in the off-season, interact with fans, see tracks they have never been to, and much more. It gives people who maybe want to give racing a shot but don't have the funding to or do not want to take the chance to get hurt an opportunity to run wheel to wheel with their favorite driver or the next up and comer. When we can get young fans wanting to go meet the people they race with online at there local race track or go see what midget or sprint car racing is all about and it gets them in the stands then I am all for it! Last nights "Sim" Chili Bowl drew a lot of interest Tony Stewart, Kyle Larson, Bryan Clauson, Chris Windom, Keith Kunz, SPEED SPORT, and many many more were watching and many were tweeting about it. I know at one point it had over 400 viewers which is considered a good night I have heard for real life dirt streams.

First off I agree with others that this race shouldn't be advertised as a "midget" race because they are definitely not the same type of "midget" that raced there a few weeks ago. I have driven the 1000cc mini sprint and a midget this past year and they are two totally different animals for sure. I have nothing against the mini-sprint/lightning sprint I am actually running one at Duquoin next weekend and looking forward to it and think the cars are very fun and racy. But to say these cars would compete for wins together in my opinion wouldn't happen, I could be wrong, I do not know. I think each are great classes but are two totally separate things and should stay two totally separate things.

-Chase Briscoe

I have a $15000 midget motor and we run with "national" midgets all the time.

I have to agree with ernart3 on everything. I made a similar post in the thread about the trophy's.

In the easiest of words, the "Midget" race at DuQuoin is allowing every type of car EXCEPT what is nationally know as an actual Midget.

I don't get it...and I still say the casual "Midget" fan will be pissed when they show up to one of these events and it's actually a Mini Sprint/Focus race.

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Chase

I tried that link. The view I got was confusing. Is their also one from the drivers seat perspective. You kids were raised around computers and computer games. As close as I got was Pin Ball. I guess you guys raced all night long right? That announcer sounded like he was from down under so I would assume the race was world wide.

As far as Mini Sprints EchoTecs etc. They are all based of of a standard Midget chassis. Sprints have classes right, they all share the same basic chassis but from there on they may be very different animals. They start out at 305's when I was coming up 302 sprints were the hot set up and some great drivers raced them, however the tires in those days were also very different.

Would having different classes for Midgets be too far off base?

Right now the way most rules are written we exclude one another from racing against one another. Like segregation once divided people in the past. What I wish would happen is that we racers would release all of these restrictive rules and allow all of these Midget chassis Based cars to race under the term MIDGET in perhaps several classes.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:.

Originally Posted by DAD:
Spartan

I guess you were up to the early hours SIM Racing last night. I clicked on the link Chase provided but I did not get much out of the action, and it put me to sleep. It is however the first time that I ever watched a car nerf another car in the rear bumper and disappear inside the other car.:)

Maybe you guys could plug some numbers in your algorithm and allow stock block and 1000cc cars to race also and see how they compete in the cyber world?

My problem isn't really drinking any more, I used to be pretty good at it but it got to where I had my hangovers before I went to bed so I gave it up. My reason for posting at 3 AM in the morning is something called Sleep Apnea. That means I sleep hooked up to a supercharger. Well it has been harder to sleep lately so I went in for an evaluation and the guy upped my pressure 1" of water. Now my face mask "Farts" all night long and I can't sleep with all that darned farting going on.:5:

I did a little more figuring and it looks like the National Midget front runners have about a 6% advantage over the stock block Midgets on a 1/4 mile track, that figures out about $3333.00 for every percentage point gain in lap time. Don't forget these are the best of the best drivers turning these times in the National Midgets, and the guys in the stock blocks are armatures.

Just like the "World of Outlaws" expect to pay more at the gate to watch a "National Midgets" race.

Racing is expensive>

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

I'm not 100% sure why you took a shot at Chase and the link he provided. I have gained numerous friends in the racing community that otherwise I would have never had the opportunity to come in contact with, if it wasn't for Sim Racing. And I will second what Chase said, while sim racing you are thinking how you would in a race car, you are using the same movements as you would in a real car, and unlike controller games such as "madden" or "nba2k" you are physically doing what you would be doing if you were in deed in a real car.

So, I'm glad we put you to sleep, it's a shame your "farting" mouth, I mean mask kept waking you up... Here's a YouTube link that can help you sleep tonight.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivs6EripxgU

"Honest sim racer himself"

There seems to be a lot of experience and intelligence being displayed here today! With that being noted: can someone .....PLEASE come up with a common easy to recognize name for the 1000 cc , Midget Based Frame car...... So I can stop calling it a "Mini Sprint!".... It's hard at 6' 3" and 235 lbs to use the word mini! C'Mon Man!!! Lol

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Originally Posted by DAD:
Chase

I tried that link. The view I got was confusing. Is their also one from the drivers seat perspective. You kids were raised around computers and computer games. As close as I got was Pin Ball. I guess you guys raced all night long right? That announcer sounded like he was from down under so I would assume the race was world wide.

As far as Mini Sprints EchoTecs etc. They are all based of of a standard Midget chassis. Sprints have classes right, they all share the same basic chassis but from there on they may be very different animals. They start out at 305's when I was coming up 302 sprints were the hot set up and some great drivers raced them, however the tires in those days were also very different.

Would having different classes for Midgets be too far off base?

Right now the way most rules are written we exclude one another from racing against one another. Like segregation once divided people in the past. What I wish would happen is that we racers would release all of these restrictive rules and allow all of these Midget chassis Based cars to race under the term MIDGET in perhaps several classes.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:.

That link was a live broadcast of the Chili Bowl on the game. Think it had over 150 entries this year. There are three commentators... Brett Wheeler who is Australian, none other than Jackslash's own Sean Buckley who has found his inner race car driver and enjoys racing on there almost nightly, and then Mike Burba. Last night was the final night (Saturday in real life) we started on Sunday with the first of three prelim nights, last night they started with two "F" mains and raced all the way to the 55 lap A-Main. On the game its self you race from the cockpit view but last night what you watched was a live broadcast (such as Dirtvision, USAC Live, XSAN, etc.)

As for the names, I think lightning sprints is pretty catchy.

I agree with all those who run the full on midget powered engines, if its confusing to the customer/fan , it's potentially bad for both groups. I respect the guys running the more costly equipment , it takes some skilled people to pilot those rides . Chase, been watching you for years along with Kevin back in the day (was my favorite at Haubstadt ), but unfortunately for me, my time has passed.... Marriage, kids, coaching wrestling, and baseball prohibit the kind of commitment required to make those cars part of my life! The 1000 cc class was the right fit for me to live out my dream of piloting an open wheel car around Tri-state (just like some of my hero's did back in the 80's and 90's). If someone could help produce a much more professional sounding and catchy name, I believe we could put this issue to bed! Looking forward to seeing all of you at the tracks this summer!

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Originally Posted by Chase Briscoe:
That link was a live broadcast of the Chili Bowl on the game. Think it had over 150 entries this year. There are three commentators... Brett Wheeler who is Australian, none other than Jackslash's own Sean Buckley who has found his inner race car driver and enjoys racing on there almost nightly, and then Mike Burba. Last night was the final night (Saturday in real life) we started on Sunday with the first of three prelim nights, last night they started with two "F" mains and raced all the way to the 55 lap A-Main. On the game its self you race from the cockpit view but last night what you watched was a live broadcast (such as Dirtvision, USAC Live, XSAN, etc.)

As for the names, I think lightning sprints is pretty catchy.

Chase

Why don't you guys mount some in car cams in your SIM cars? What time was the main race over?

What if we wanted to race with the EchoTec Midgets? would that be PC? Or would we be frowned upon for wanting to do so? Were we wrong in including the Focus, Echotecs and Honda Midgets in the race at Du Quoin?

Honest SIM is that the name you race under?

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Originally Posted by DAD:
Chase

Why don't you guys mount some in car cams in your cars?

What if we wanted to race with the EchoTec Midgets? would that be PC. Or would we be frowned upon for wanting to do so? Were we wrong in including the Focus, Echotecs and Honda Midgets in the race at Du Quoin?

Honest SIM is that the name you race under?

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Believe it or not you can put a GoPro on your sim car if you are really into that kind of thing! I am excited to see how competitive all the classes are there!

I have raced mini's for 20 years and love them. Most bang for your buck in racing. Love to watch Midgets, but don't feel like I am driving a midget when we take the wings off our mini. Here is the truth, without wings we are 1 second slower than midgets at Macon. At Lincoln IL we are nearly 2 seconds slower than midgets. Both classes are great, but not the same. I don't want to be like a mall cop telling people he works in law enforcement. I'm OK, your OK, we can all be friends, but I race mini sprints.

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Chase

That would beat what I was watching,then if I could pick and choose my drivers that would really be nice. What I clicked on was boring. Maybe some more long shots so I could watch the whole track and all the cars at one time.

Maybe you can line us up a SIM race of DuQuoin. It should be one fun race, and if you are a racer that is what you should be looking forward to.

I bet I could bring 5 beat up old tricycles into the pits and the real racers would be racing on them things between races as hard or harder that they race with the cars.:5:;)

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Originally Posted by dirtrack:
I have raced mini's for 20 years and love them. Most bang for your buck in racing. Love to watch Midgets, but don't feel like I am driving a midget when we take the wings off our mini. Here is the truth, without wings we are 1 second slower than midgets at Macon. At Lincoln IL we are nearly 2 seconds slower than midgets. Both classes are great, but not the same. I don't want to be like a mall cop telling people he works in law enforcement. I'm OK, your OK, we can all be friends, but I race mini sprints.

Dirt

How close are you to the Echotec times?
With the wings on how far are you off from the Midget times?

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Originally Posted by cbaumeyer48:
I agree with all those who run the full on midget powered engines, if its confusing to the customer/fan , it's potentially bad for both groups. I respect the guys running the more costly equipment , it takes some skilled people to pilot those rides . Chase, been watching you for years along with Kevin back in the day (was my favorite at Haubstadt ), but unfortunately for me, my time has passed.... Marriage, kids, coaching wrestling, and baseball prohibit the kind of commitment required to make those cars part of my life! The 1000 cc class was the right fit for me to live out my dream of piloting an open wheel car around Tri-state (just like some of my hero's did back in the 80's and 90's). If someone could help produce a much more professional sounding and catchy name, I believe we could put this issue to bed! Looking forward to seeing all of you at the tracks this summer!

Chris

Speed Car?

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