USAC Sanction Fees?
 

Just curious how much they charge a facility to bring each series in. I'm talking midgets, sprints, silver crown on dirt. Thanks.

From what I've been told it cost $1000 to have the series there.

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Originally Posted by on_the_edge:
From what I've been told it cost $1000 to have the series there.

That seems low to me. I would expect it to be much more than that.

USAC Sanction Fees?
 

I'da thot more like $5K-$10K.....
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Even higher. Keep in mind, the fee includes the purse. So $5,000 is just the winner's share.

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Don’t confuse sanction fee with a total race package fee. Sanction fees for USAC probably still run about $200 to $1500 depending upon the class and the event. A Regional Midget race obviously is less expensive than a 100 mile Silver Crown race. In addition to the sanction fee there are also official fees which might also run from $300 to $1500+ depending on how many officials are needed and the travel necessary. This is for the Chief Steward, Registrar, Scorer, Flagman, Tech Official, and Pit Stewards. Then there is an insurance premium, point fund contribution and of course the advertised purse. Add all these together and you have the total financial package. Most sanctioning bodies don’t break this down and get a total package amount from the promoter and call it a sanction fee. They then disperse the funds as it fits their needs. Bottom line is when you try to compare sanction fees you are not always comparing apples with apples.

Mike

It would take more than $2,000 per race just to pay Kevin Millers sallery!

The information I got came from Jason McCord. Total for a sprint car race was somewhere around 26k. The sanctioning fee was not a significant factor most of that is purse money.

With all the above being said is the track only makes money if your butt is in the house and pits gate and concession. Hopefully we will all go support a race track and keep them from closings. Good luck to all the promoters and racing teams in 2015. Hope all race fans enjoy a great 2015 racing season.

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Miller probably makes next to nothing from the midget, sprints and silver crown. Don’t forget USAC also sanctions many other series and events, some with much higher fees and sponsorships. .25 Midgets, X-Games, TORC, Cannonball Rallies, Rally Cross, Snow Cross, Red Bull and Monster Energy special events, Moto GP, F1, FIA record certifications and product certifications are just some of the things USAC is involved in. Some of these are big bucks operations and events and Miller get a % cut from most, hence his big paycheck.

Mike

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Personally I don't care what USAC charges. If they would run a decent show then we wouldn't even be talking about sanctioning fees. You would think that after watching POWRi kick their butt time after time with the midget races they would learn something from it. POWRi went to the transponders, they have officials that get tough with the participants that don't want to listen and run shows that don't take 20 yellow flag laps to get the cars lined back up after a yellow. They consistently get people out of the stands and on their way home between 10:30 & 11 pm. Too much baloney and not enough public information. I can't speak for everyone but what I want to see from a promoter and the sanctioning body is a decent size field of cars, race track that is properly prepped, races run on schedule and an informative announcer. Someone will say that USAC is only the sanctioning body which is true but they have to work as a team with everyone and they seem to fail at this time after time. It is time they get it right or their tent will fold.

That's strange because every USAC
Midget race I went to last year ran like clock work. Who do you work for anyway? Or, you're just another winged sprint car fan bashing USAC. How bout this....move the Chili Bowl to Indianapolis and we'll see which club is better off in 5 years. If Power I is so great and strong why do they allow most of their tracks to run 15 classes of stock cars? I can't stand to attend for that reason alone.

That won't be the case at Haubstadt!

Originally Posted by treecitytornado:
That won't be the case at Haubstadt!

What are you referring to?

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Originally Posted by treecitytornado:
That won't be the case at Haubstadt!

You are right.....USAC midgets dont have a date at Haubstadt.

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I truly do not understand the love affair with POWRi. POWRi does a good job of being a regional race series. They understand what their drivers want and do a good job or catering to those drivers. POWRi does a good job on small tracks around the St Louis area. They do not take on big travel, nor do they do a bunch of mid-week shows. Take them away from St Louis or take them away from the small tracks and they have issues. I have been to plenty of POWRi races in the KC area that did not have a full field of cars. (24 cars)

POWRi also has a big issue with big name stars. Take Zach Daum out of the list and most people will have a hard time naming the POWRi stars.

Finally, I have an issue with POWRi scheduling against some of the biggest midget races in the country. We know that they have scheduled against the Belleville Midget Nationals, and the Gold Crown in the past. I would think a co-sanction would be the best answer, but if not a co-sanction at least take the night off so the teams that wanted to could attend the biggest midget races in the country.

I fell in love with the midgets at Angell Park during my one year is Wisconsin and I will support what ever midget series that is near by. USAC, POWRi, AMS (KC based group) I think that a good midget race is the best entertainment on dirt. I just wish that their was more cooperation among the groups.

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Thats all true and when many of these partnerships developed it was billed as a huge new market to get sponsors and media outlets for the Champ/Spint/Midget divisions.

What happened?

I was referring to the Powri Show at Haubstadt won't have a bunch of support classes.