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jd1sprint 7/11/14 10:20 PM

New Monroe Co. noise ordinance
 
This is from the H-T in Bloomington today..

Will this be the death of the Speedway?..




Are races subject to the noise ordinance?

Q: I know this is a delicate subject with Bloomington Speedway fans, but will the county noise ordinance have any bearing on how late the races run? Having lived on the south side all of my life, I can tell you that in recent years they have been running past midnight on most Friday nights, and after 1 a.m. on several occasions. Several years ago, they were always done by 11 p.m.


D.B., Bloomington


A: H-T reporter Rachel Bunn addressed this first on Monday, but it’s worth noting again, considering the speedway has scheduled races on two upcoming Friday nights (July 18 and 25).


Essentially, a revision to the noise ordinance was approved by the county commissioners on June 27. Noise is now prohibited between the hours of 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. that is audible at 50 feet or more from its source — with some exceptions, including emergency and law enforcement situations, airport operations and annual festivals.


A violation of the ordinance can result in a $2,500 fine.


The ordinance mirrors closely the one the city of Bloomington has, although the city’s ordinance focuses more on neighborhood regulation, Bunn wrote, while the county’s ordinance looks more at vehicle and construction noises.


County attorney David Schilling says it’s his understanding that everyone would be subject to the ordinance as soon as it took effect — so existing organizations, such as the Bloomington Speedway, and construction projects, such as I-69, would be subject to the ordinance, regardless of other permits or provisions of the county code that govern those activities.


The speedway’s schedule at www.BloomingtonSpeedway.com tentatively lists “hot laps” at 6:30 p.m. and racing at 7:30 p.m. for each of the next two Fridays, so I’ll be curious to see how late the races will run.

Dirtfan 7/11/14 10:35 PM

As I sit here at GC under the red for JBjr, he is out and OK by the way, I for one certainly hope that there is some kind of Grandfather clause in place.

Panama 7/11/14 10:51 PM

The Bloomington Speedway owners are looking into exactly what this does mean for the future going forward.

So far they have been getting conflicting answers from the Monroe County Comissioners. The speedway has been there since 1923 and has always been "grandfathered" or exempted from new regulations and restrictions. The comissioners have already granted some exceptions to the new ordinance, so we will soon see where the speedway stands.

But I have a question, please tell me what date the racing was not completely concluded before midnight?

I have been there every night for the last 2 seasons and the only possible night I remember was POWRi last year, and that was due to rain, and since a reschedule date was impossible, the track made a herculian effort to work the track back into racing condition, and it was one of the best features in the last 2 seasons.

Anyway, not time to push the panic button yet. We will soon know the intent of the comissioners, and the county attorney.

Hurryinhoosier 7/11/14 11:17 PM

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This town will not rest till those in power have it destroyed. They need to call these laws the "We fought I69 and we lost".

~New noise ordinance that prohibits any business that makes a audible sound to be in violation if said sound can be heard from 50 feet away. This however is totally legal if you choose to apply and purchase a permit.
McDonalds drive thru, car wash beepers, Starlite Drive-In, every bar downtown with music...all SHOULD be in trouble if the Speedway is to be found in violation.

~Laws passed about any truck stops that choose to be built in the county must be "green" and abide by code....a.ll in a effort to keep them out as they are "unsightly" and "ghastly places".

~Laws passed to keep adult stores from following the interstate...possibly agree with this one.

~Laws passed to keep chain businesses from building downtown.

Almost every manufacturer in the county has left...and those that are still here are dwindling down to nothing.

They have fought the 69 project from the get go and this is just another screw up on behalf of the elected.

cowboyhar69 7/11/14 11:48 PM

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Just another example of the know it all politicians thinking they know what is best for everyone else...from Washington D.C. all the way down to local government.

Bad Dad 54 7/11/14 11:51 PM

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Check the sound levels at concerts & other events that take place at the grounds & around town. I believe you'll be surprised:6:

KKinser99 7/12/14 12:18 AM

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Just happens that bloomington is full of the same type of politicians that are currently bringing the country down. They keep getting voted in because students are considered residents, therefore vote in local elections.

curbservice 7/12/14 7:00 AM

This is what happens when liberals are left in charge unchecked. They are not business friendly, especially small business.

racephoto1 7/12/14 10:52 AM

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Bloomington , the town is a major problem. It may be in Indiana, but they aren't Hoosiers. They're the people who know more than anyone else, and know what's best for you. A lot like our president, and we all know how well that's working.

Looks like all the businesses that are affected by this in Monroe county need to band together and work out a solution. It may take a lawyer, but it may take a boycott of one sort or another to solve this problem.

The smart thing to do would be to show the county what the financial impact these businesses have on the county. Then show the county how much money they would loose if none of them were open. Lousy politicians always notice money before they notice anything else.

Pwill 7/12/14 12:09 PM

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I work for a Civil Engineering firm in Carmel, and it is well known up here that you do not accept clients looking to develop in Monroe County. I previously worked for a firm in Bloomington and witnessed first hand how difficult/ borderline illegal their policies are. They truly have affected the local economy for the worse. Developments are presented to the Planning Commission and in return, 90% of the time they are shot down. Therefore no land owners, engineering/architecture firms, construction trades, etc. are making any money. I have witnessed the planning commission single handily drive a man into bankruptcy because of their unwillingness to approve a 4 lot subdivision out by Lake Monroe. Like someone stated earlier in this thread... until there is a law passed that denies Indiana University students the ability to vote local government, things will continue to trend this way. If the County wants the racetrack gone, they will find a way to do it.

throb 7/12/14 12:31 PM

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normal road traffic noise is audible farther than 50 feet away from its source.....does this mean that they are going to shut down all roads at 10pm as to not have anyone in violation of the new noise ordinance? and how about every Harley Davidson motorcycle.....that should be a great money maker for the county id say!

Panama 7/12/14 1:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by throb (Post 383351)
normal road traffic noise is audible farther than 50 feet away from its source.....does this mean that they are going to shut down all roads at 10pm as to not have anyone in violation of the new noise ordinance? and how about every Harley Davidson motorcycle.....that should be a great money maker for the county id say!

In Monroe County, it really wouldn't surprise me.

"Nothing good ever comes from small minded people in large groups" this would describe Monroe County government perfectly.

This is an ordinance they came up with back in 2009.

Drivers in parts of Monroe County will no longer be able to smoke in their vehicles if a child is present.

County commissioners on Friday approved a smoking ban by a 2-1 vote that prohibits smoking if a child age 13 or younger is also in the vehicle, 6News' Ben Morriston reported.

The ordinance affects only the unincorporated areas of Monroe County, so cities Bloomington, Ellettsville and Stinesville are exempt.

Commissioner Pat Stoffers called that absurd.

"A 35-mile car trip can take you through six changes in the smoking law," he said.

Enforcement will also be an issue because drivers cannot be pulled over for the offense, only ticketed after they have been pulled over for something else.

Still, some said it's a move in the right direction.

"This ordinance prohibits smoking in a car with a child. It doesn't tell people they can't smoke," said Monroe County Health Board spokeswoman Carol Touloukian.

The ban will carry up to a $100 fine for people caught smoking in a vehicle that is carrying a child age 13 or younger.

racephoto1 7/12/14 1:50 PM

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Hey , as we all know, government knows what's best for all of us. We also know it can kiss this::26:

KKinser99 7/12/14 2:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwill (Post 383341)
I work for a Civil Engineering firm in Carmel, and it is well known up here that you do not accept clients looking to develop in Monroe County. I previously worked for a firm in Bloomington and witnessed first hand how difficult/ borderline illegal their policies are. They truly have affected the local economy for the worse. Developments are presented to the Planning Commission and in return, 90% of the time they are shot down. Therefore no land owners, engineering/architecture firms, construction trades, etc. are making any money. I have witnessed the planning commission single handily drive a man into bankruptcy because of their unwillingness to approve a 4 lot subdivision out by Lake Monroe. Like someone stated earlier in this thread... until there is a law passed that denies Indiana University students the ability to vote local government, things will continue to trend this way. If the County wants the racetrack gone, they will find a way to do it.

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Bloomington part of a plan called agenda 21. They will say it is a conspiracy but there is a website
http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org...s/Agenda21.pdf

ronmil 7/12/14 2:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pwill (Post 383341)
I work for a Civil Engineering firm in Carmel, and it is well known up here that you do not accept clients looking to develop in Monroe County. I previously worked for a firm in Bloomington and witnessed first hand how difficult/ borderline illegal their policies are. They truly have affected the local economy for the worse. Developments are presented to the Planning Commission and in return, 90% of the time they are shot down. Therefore no land owners, engineering/architecture firms, construction trades, etc. are making any money. I have witnessed the planning commission single handily drive a man into bankruptcy because of their unwillingness to approve a 4 lot subdivision out by Lake Monroe. Like someone stated earlier in this thread... until there is a law passed that denies Indiana University students the ability to vote local government, things will continue to trend this way. If the County wants the racetrack gone, they will find a way to do it.

Just curious, did the Indiana University students oppose the development of I69?

Dirtfan 7/12/14 2:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ronmil (Post 383375)
Just curious, did the Indiana University students oppose the development of I69?

Good one Ron, I'm sure all the exciting TD's from from the Stadium when they fire the cannon will not violate the ordinance.
Most of em probably think I 69 is a night club on N Walnut

Panama 7/12/14 4:04 PM

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The only thing I want to add to this is, the owners are doing everything they can to get an answer or resolution from the commissioners on this "NEW" ordinance.
So for now, everyone needs to just stay calm and tuned in for the time being, I hope it doesn't come to it but if it does, I am prepared to publish phone numbers and addresses for anyone that wants to call, write and bombard those in position to make our point.
But it is not time for that yet. Any and all information regarding this matter will be posted here and on the speedways Facebook page in the coming days.
THANK YOU ALL, for being friends/fans/family of the Bloomington Speedway!

Mattmac05 7/12/14 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 383377)
Good one Ron, I'm sure all the exciting TD's from from the Stadium when they fire the cannon will not violate the ordinance.
Most of em probably think I 69 is a night club on N Walnut

What touchdowns??

Charles Nungester 7/12/14 5:10 PM

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A normal conversation is audible 50ft away when there isn't much other noise. How about a big four by four with mudders that you can hear a mile away coming?

This is rediculous. My only reason for visiting bloomington and besides the track, usually a gas station and FF Joint gets visited.

old timer 7/12/14 5:29 PM

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I do know tonight after 10 I will be call the monroe county sheriff and turning in a complian for noise from the road in front of my house we only set 75ft off the road.

old timer 7/12/14 5:30 PM

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I do know tonight after 10 I will be calling the monroe county sheriff and turning in a complian for noise from the road in front of my house we only set 75ft off the road.

TheGhostOfOpperman 7/12/14 7:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by old timer (Post 383405)
I do know tonight after 10 I will be call the monroe county sheriff and turning in a complian for noise from the road in front of my house we only set 75ft off the road.

Calling in unnecessary complaints will only increase the work AND give them statistical support to add more noise regulations.

indydmax 7/12/14 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGhostOfOpperman (Post 383419)
Calling in unnecessary complaints will only increase the work AND give them statistical support to add more noise regulations.

Calling in will not cause more regulations. It will cause more work. I'm not promoting this, yet. We need to let the track and the county attempt to workout a solution to pacify the vocal few. If that doesn't work out, we need to file petitions and support the track. The facility has been there for 89 years. The individuals that live close to the track knew the situation when they purchased a home. Bloomington speedway has already implemented a muffler rule. They are taking the proper steps!!!

old timer 7/12/14 7:51 PM

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Do nothing and I will guarantee you they will close the speedway down! Watched the guys in action for the past 35 years.

indydmax 7/12/14 7:59 PM

Agree. Give a bit of time. The 50 ft rules is insane. Most county roads will violate the rule.

TheGhostOfOpperman 7/12/14 8:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by indydmax (Post 383421)
Calling in will not cause more regulations.

You guys know it all. Call in all day and help them regulate the track right out of business.

addictedtodirt 7/12/14 8:53 PM

Go to the show. Have a good time. Enjoy great racing. If the county imposes a fine, pass the hat. If an announcement were made explaining the fine and the hat passing, I guarantee they would collect enough for a first time fine. 2nd time??

TheGhostOfOpperman 7/12/14 9:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by addictedtodirt (Post 383431)
Go to the show. Have a good time. Enjoy great racing. If the county imposes a fine, pass the hat. If an announcement were made explaining the fine and the hat passing, I guarantee they would collect enough for a first time fine. 2nd time??

lol. You want THE FANS to pay the fine???????????????

addictedtodirt 7/13/14 7:18 AM

Yer right Opp...its near 10pm and the feature hasn't ran. Pack er up. Can't run because a buck or two might break the bank.

sw1911 7/13/14 8:20 AM

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Trying to think like they do, if we just get those speedway objectors to go to enough races, they will become race fans. So give them free passes to the track.

billw 7/13/14 8:42 AM

The best thing for us race fans to do is get the local businesses on the tracks side... When you stop and grab something to eat,stay at a hotel or get gas take every opertunity to mention why you are in town

Hurryinhoosier 7/13/14 9:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sw1911 (Post 383485)
Trying to think like they do, if we just get those speedway objectors to go to enough races, they will become race fans. So give them free passes to the track.

Not gonna happen.

These laws are coming right from the offices of the elected. Not one person went and complained about the speedway. This all boils down to the I69 construction crews and that is all. With the law, now the townspeople smell the blood and are circling.

Charles Nungester 7/13/14 10:33 AM

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If this takes effect without a exemption for the track, It will be almost impossible to overturn
Yes, I would encourage all fans and buisnesses in the area to call council. Sitting on your ass, just allows them to pursue whats more relevant. $$$$ to them,

If it takes effect, The only way to overturn it is to prove the law isn't being enforced equally. I don't even see them being able to enforce the I-69 noise control as that is Federal or state which overrides local

racephoto1 7/13/14 10:48 AM

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Someone needs to contact the former owners of the Indianapolis Speedrome. They went through this in Indy and beat this issue. You need to contact John Stiles and the Cohens to see how they did it. It always pays to talk to someone who has gone through the experience.

bn kleen 7/13/14 10:53 AM

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Does anyone have the phone number to reach the county council? If so please let me know.


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