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Dave F 6/9/14 5:46 PM

MMSA at Western Kentucky Speedway
 
I went to Nebo, Kentucky to watch the MMSA Lighting Sprints Race, on Saturday evening. I hadn't been to Nebo for a race in about seven years. The race track was in best racing condition I've ever seen it. Hats off to Western Kentucky Speedway Staff, for supplying a great race track.

midwest84 6/9/14 6:02 PM

I totally agree, track was very smooth all night. The management and staff at WKS kept the show moving, so we were able to get home at a decent hour even with a long drive. MMSA will be back at WKS on June 28th, everyone needs to put this on their calendar as a must attend!

Bill May 6/9/14 8:22 PM

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Anyone have results & other info.

Bill May

Avon Open Wheel fan 6/9/14 8:26 PM

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Andy Bradley won it was a great race. This is the feature video. I really enjoyed going there the staff and management was nice to work with and treated us great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8oZVWL2gY&app=desktop

on_the_edge 6/9/14 10:51 PM

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Looks like the track has been changed since we were last there in 08 I believe with MSCS. Used to be guardrail around the track, but always provided good racing and one of my favorite tracks in the sprint car. Should have ventured my way down there Saturday, but didn't see they were racing until I made other plans.

MC@Performance Fab 6/9/14 11:25 PM

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Dam.

RoyaltonMiniSprint 6/10/14 12:02 AM

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I too went Saturday track was in great shape; Lightning Sprints were flying around there one of the better winged Lightning Sprint races I have seen!!

DAD 6/10/14 7:22 AM

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Thanks

We raced last Saturday at Western Kentucky Speedway. I would first like to thank the people at the WK Speedway. When we got there it looked like the only thing we were going to do was maybe have a wet T shirt contest (with my body I would have been a sure winner). Mother nature decided to make weather just as soon as we got off the X-way to go to the track. Looking at the weather map it looked as if the weather was going to blow over and around us, they in spite of the fact that the crowd was probably already going to stay home decided to go ahead with the race.

They must have spent a great deal of time on the track prep the week before because when it dried off it was one very racy race track. The straight were LONG we were clocking 92 MPH + down the back straight and turning laps in the high 16 to low 17 seconds bracket with a gear just a little low for the track and we were sure not the fastest car there either.

We would also like to thank Henderson Chevy GMC and Western Kentucky Trucking for the sponsorship that helped this race pay a purse that made the long hall more affordable for the racers. You potential sponsors out there need to pay attention to this. Race Sponsorship is a very affordable way to promote your goods and services to the race community. Ask your accountant what the real cost of sponsorship is to your company. It will surprise you and will probably also add to your bottom line.

Thanks to Ron Ambrose for his assistance in securing these race dates. Like I said, we had raced at WK speedway once before more than 20 or so years ago and it sure brought back to me many fond memories of racers that are no longer with us. Thanks to Ron also for the Tip on the Ramada Inn in Henderson Ky.. At $59.00 it was about 2 or 3 steps up from the Motels we usually stay at when on one of these Luxury Race Outings.

Thanks to the Ambrose Bros. for teaching us how to set up and gear for this tricky fast little race track. Had Collin Ambrose not have wore a hole in a coolant line he would have checked out on the Field. He in his ERC Mc Performance Inducted Yamaha R-1 powered Mini Sprint had amassed almost a straightaway lead on the field before having to pull off into the infield with overheating problems.

We had a great time, learned a few things and can't wait to go back there again.

The top 3 finishers were I think 1st Andy Bradley, 2nd Lynn Ambrose and 3rd Nathan Mensendiek.

The people I guess that go unnoticed by me and many other racers and deserve the most thanks by far are the guys that have given up their time and efforts to keep the MMSA going after the loss of Allen Ruppenthal and the retirement of Bill May from the active running of the group. You guys are walking a tight rope right now and doing an excellent job of it. Those are awfully big shoes to fill.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

racenut69 6/10/14 10:19 AM

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Are these 600's or 1000's?

DAD 6/10/14 10:38 AM

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racen

These are 1000cc Midgets, the next best thing to a Full Midget. Some people call them "Mini Sprints" some people call them "Lightning Sprints" but when you boil it down to the basics they are in fact Full Midget Race cars powered by a 1000cc, 200+ Horsepower, and basically stock Motorcycle engine.

If you haven't watched them race you are missing some real good open wheel racing by ordinary (not rich or mortgaged to the hilt) racers. See the video linked on Avon's post.

The step from the grand stands to racing one of these race cars is no where near as big as to any other open wheel class. This includes the "Open Wheel Modified's".

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

cmiracingvids 6/10/14 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racenut69 (Post 378475)
Are these 600's or 1000's?

1000cc

DAD 6/10/14 11:02 AM

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cmi

Opps!! 10000cc brought about by finger float (or could be Freudian slip) caused by typing two fingered above the recommended rate for a soon to be 67 year old worn out old racer.

Sometimes I get carried away.

Wait until I get my 3500cc 4 cam Stock Block and Head v6 Midget on the track. You ain't seen nothing yet "Toyota"!:6:

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

racenut69 6/10/14 7:05 PM

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American V-Twins would be cool!..;)

DAD 6/11/14 10:47 AM

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Racin

That sound would be out of this world. There are a few big American Big V Twins out there that could muster up the horsepower to give the Jap's a run for their money. But alas there are those amongst us that like to stifle creative racers (In the name of saving racers money's) Give me a break will you.

These are the same people that are spending huge amounts of money on their own race cars and trying to protect us from our selves. Don't believe that all mini sprints fetch price tags like you see in the classifieds. These are over built and valued way too much for a mini-sprint. You can race and be competitive on the cheap if left to your own talents and resources.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Bradleyracing86 6/11/14 11:53 AM

*Official Results
Heat 1 *
*
#86 Andy Bradley
#37 Doug Jones
#71 Nathan Mesendiek
#39 Damon Fortune
#11m Mark Perry
#10c Chis Baumeyer
#19 Mike Miller *R
#77w Dan Wolf
*
*
Heat 2
*
#36 Collin Ambrose
#77 Lynn Ambrose
#87 Travis Stickels
#49 Troy Fortune *R
#50 Luke Cone *R
#11 Alex Shipman
#88j Jr. Sutton
*
*
*
Feature
*
#86 Andy Bradley
#77 Lynn Ambrose
#71 Nathan Mesendiek
#39 Damon Fortune
#49 Troy Fortune *R
#11 Alex Shipman
#87 Travis Stickels
#10c Chris Baumeyer
#19 Mike Miller *R
#77w Dan Wolf
#11m Mark Perry
#36 Collin Ambrose
#37 Doug Jones
#50 Luke Cone R
#88j Jr. Sutton - DNS

MC@Performance Fab 6/11/14 12:40 PM

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Someone did try a v-twin in a modlite awhile back, slow as hell.

jjones752 6/11/14 1:15 PM

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Years ago in California, Terry Farrar put a Sportster in a TQ; it was louder than the Hammers of Hades and had a tendency to crack frames at inopportune moments...

Mud Packer 6/11/14 1:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradleyracing86 (Post 378644)
*Official Results
Heat 1 *
*
#86 Andy Bradley
#37 Doug Jones
#71 Nathan Mesendiek
#39 Damon Fortune
#11m Mark Perry
#10c Chis Baumeyer
#19 Mike Miller *R
#77w Dan Wolf
*
*
Heat 2
*
#36 Collin Ambrose
#77 Lynn Ambrose
#87 Travis Stickels
#49 Troy Fortune *R
#50 Luke Cone *R
#11 Alex Shipman
#88j Jr. Sutton
*
*
*
Feature
*
#86 Andy Bradley
#77 Lynn Ambrose
#71 Nathan Mesendiek
#39 Damon Fortune
#49 Troy Fortune *R
#11 Alex Shipman
#87 Travis Stickels
#10c Chris Baumeyer
#19 Mike Miller *R
#77w Dan Wolf
#11m Mark Perry
#36 Collin Ambrose
#37 Doug Jones
#50 Luke Cone R
#88j Jr. Sutton - DNS

I notice a lot of last names that appear could be related to some in the sprint car ranks maybe?

racenut69 6/11/14 7:09 PM

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Cracking the frame means you have enough torque and/or HOOKED UP,correct?..I told you it would work..;)

jjones752 6/11/14 7:27 PM

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In this case I think it meant shaking so bad it could knock a filling out; the "lope" in a Harley's idle doesn't go away at speed when it's bolted solid to a motor plate...

DAD 6/12/14 9:58 AM

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V Twins would be a definite option had not a few "ANAL" racers had bad dreams about somebody beating them and messing up their position in the scheme of things and "Outlawed" them from competing. Installing a Big V in a Mini-Sprint would require a bit of a learning curve, new ideas are very seldom fast right out of the box, ask the people working on the BMW's right now.

If they spend enough time and energy working out the bugs in their B-mer's they "WILL BE VERY VERY FAST" but it's going to take a little work and energy to achieve it.

But why worry "rules are rules".

This seems to be the new American view of looking at life and achievement in general (Well I would try but there are just too many rules and regulations in my way).;):5:

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

MC@Performance Fab 6/12/14 12:42 PM

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LOL...take a deep hit....hold it innnnn...now let it out...ahhhh

jim goerge 6/12/14 1:55 PM

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Is Damon Fortune related to Blackie fortune of USAC ?

DAD 6/12/14 3:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MC@Performance Fab (Post 378786)
LOL...take a deep hit....hold it innnnn...now let it out...ahhhh

Mac

The US government said the Hill Billy's down in Kentucky could grow that stuff but they better not smoke it.

Guess they will just bump the price up a little and ship it west where the people know how to use it.

We are still partial to "Shine". Or good old "Jack Black".

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

openwheel44 6/12/14 3:08 PM

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Being a true Harley freak it makes me sick to even type this...........

We had some guys try Harley V-Twins some years back. Trust me, these boys knew how to make a Harley sing. They couldn't keep up with the old oil cooled Suzuki with mechanical injection back then..........no way would they compete with "ACCEPTED" motors of today. Did they sound awesome? Hell yes. Did they weight two tons? Maybe. Could they get out of their own way? Barely as compared.

Right after the V-Rod came out, we tried to formulate a class that had stock sealed V-rod motors. Even contacted Harley but the idea fell through when it dawned on all of us we woudl be going slower.

BTW.........I still ride Harleys on the street and used to flat track them. Coolest bike made. LOL

DAD 6/12/14 4:18 PM

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Phil

To be honest I don't know if a 2 valve Sportster based motor could do it or not, but the Italians have a couple of 4 valve v2's and v4's that make pretty good power are lighter than most Jap's and would be fun to play with. If I left out the body wrap and maybe the twin adjustable heavy duty super wing slider, I might be able to work one in.

Just wondering what is the difference between a "Lightning Sprint" and a "Midget". Do we set the line of demarcation at so many cc's or how many Horsepower or cost of the motor package? Maybe the size of the top rail? Would a 305 Sprint Car really be Middy Sprint since it's motor is a tad small when compared to a 410 sprint?

PS: You would have loved WKS Doug said his eyeballs got into a high speed wobble toward the ends of the straights!:18::18:

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Bradleyracing86 6/12/14 11:48 PM

Damon and Troy are Blackies grandsons.

Racer_dude35 6/15/14 9:52 PM

Congrats Andy on your win sorry I missed it. And to the guys and the V twins there used to a guy that came up from the south was really fast but ran out steam to soon before getting to the corner.

DAD 6/15/14 11:14 PM

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Racer

Heck I do that now, Must be them Harley Valves I snuck in there.;):D

Bet I could come up with one that had more wind in it though, Racing is boring Piddling is fun>

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

racenut69 6/16/14 5:39 AM

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How much is an Aftermarket-built Sportster Engine,these days?..You know the companies but I'm not advertising on here..;)


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