Sand bagging
 

Does any one out there think some of the racers sandbag(dont run all out when qualifying)? So that when they invert they start closer to the front. I guess i mean instead of trying to get fast time they try to get fourth or fifth fast time. Then get the poll for the main. Just my opinion I like to see the guys give it all they got run it all out. I like the invert makes for better racing in the main. I am just wondering if there is any thing they can do to make these guys run all out from qualifying to the heat to the b and on in to the A? I know set up of the car has a lot to do with it and track conditions. But some of these guys that are qualifying fourth or fifth. Seem to be running away in the main. From what should be your faster cars. What does everyone else think?

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This conspiracy theory has been around for a long time..

Think about it...

if you are qualifying 10th out of 50 -- how would you know what the time you need to have to be 6th fastest.... and I defy you to be able to clock any specific target time ...

It just is not possible !!!

YOu really believe -- you crew chief tells you to run a 13.123 to be 6th fastest -- and you would be able to do that.... no way....

As an example -- Coons jr. has qualified in top 6 the last 2 nights -- certainly -- he had no control of this - he ran as fast as he could -- but, as you comment -- qualifying in the top 6 is a large advantage ..

tonight - one of the top 6 cars -- did not make the feature -- this moved Coons, jr. back a row - he still won..

but, how would your theory apply to this circumstance?

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what happened at bloomington

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Well SAND BAGGING! 46 sprint cars under 12 seconds! I really think someone did!! I won't tell WHO! What 32 race cars missed fast time by a half second! Sure you had a SAND BAGGER!:idea:
Joe

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Hell yes there was sandbagging!:doh:

And there was also a second gunman in the grassy knoll in turn 4!:headbang

GEEEEEEEEEEEZ gime' a break!:loser:

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and the timing is done from those black helicopters hovering behind the stands....:wink

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try to sandbag then next thing you know you running the NQ race b/c they done Waxed your A$$ :censor:

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It is a very top secret covet operative that is watched with intense interest by several unknown individuals. Rumor has it that this high level operation will conclude tonight @ THE TRI STATE SPEEDWAY:checkered::checkered::Steer

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you beat me to it....but i didnt wanna post it SAY IT ISNT SO:crying:

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I couldnt thumb a stopwatch the right time to be 6th, so how can they foot a 800 hp sprinter to do the same.... The same used to be said about Steve Kinser.....total BS. Cant be done no matter how good you are.

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Maybe sand bagging in the heats? Fast guy sucks in his heat but knows he will start up front in the b-main, make the race and get his time back!
:dologob:

Like K.T did. Last chance at running the track for the feature !
How many features did he win from the semi? A Bunch.

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Hey if enough guys intentionally suck in the heat...........makes for one HELL of a B-main!

HELL YES! I am all for that, I love good B-mains too!
:greenflag::applaud::checkered:

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Speaking of sand-bagging, what do these numbers tell ya. If anything:

Tracey Hines: B-Main.................A-Main
Kamp.............1st.......................2nd
Kokomo..........1st.......................3rd
G-City............5th.......................6th
L-Burg............NO........................15th
L-Burg............1st.......................6th
B-ton.............9th........................16th

Nobody should get their time back for "RUNNING THE B-MAIN".

D.O...hit the nail on the head. They don't sand-bag time trials, they sand-bag in the heats'. At least ONE guy does....

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I am sure that Brady Bacon sand-bagged his heat so that he could run the B and start up front. BTW how did that work out for him?

I know that was our intention in the heat when Jerry was attempting to pass on the outside and got fed a right rear for his trouble!

If you want to prevent the aledged sand-bagging do what they do out West...you can't start in the top six if you don't transfer through the heat.

The level of competition is extremely high during ISW. Only three drivers have made it through their heats so far. Why do you want to give the death penalty for having to run the B?

Rob Hoffman
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:thumb

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If there has been any sand bagging going on it's over now. The bags busted Thursday night and I wore most of it home.

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Just an observation, of the top three -- Darland won the non-qualifiers race and then third in his heat.

Jerry Coons Jr., and Levi Jones made the feature through the B-main. So did Tracy Hines.

If there had been passing points, Darland would have cleaned up. But, then again, maybe none of the top dogs would have transferred through their heats.

One question, are points scored for finishing in a transfer spot in the heat races?

Have fun in Haubstadt tonight guys. Unfortunately, I have work to do here.
Jim Morrison

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1) I don't think some driver's are good enough to sand-bag..
2) It looks like Hines don't put himself in a position to get fed a right rear in a heat race. He know's he has the B-main.
3) DING DING DING... We have a freakin' winner.
4) Why do you guys' always want to reward the top dogs?? If a Coons', a Hines' or Jone's can't race their way into the A Main through their heat, with the MONEY they have behind them, why penalize a smaller budget team that might be taking their spot, that RACED their AZZ off to qualify through the HEAT. TWO laps does not make a night of RACING.

Just My Humble Opinion:checkered:

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I don't know why we get lumped into the big team category. I am driving a 20 year old toter home that we bought used in 1997. We won the last two nights of sprint week with a chassis tha is over a year old.

They invert the top 32 qualifers to give the "small teams" a chance but for some reason some of the posters on here believe that samll teams are somehow more worthy to be in the feature than "big teams". I always thought that racing was about competition not affirmitave action for slower competitors.

Rob Hoffman


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This was about sand-bagging, not affirmative action:O:. Which by the way I'm against....

Good luck to Jerry Coons Jr. and the Hoffman #69 Team tonight.......:checkered:

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Of the three ISW races I've been too, I can't really say that anybody sandbaged that I know about. You never know if the tracks going to go away or get better as Qualifying progresses. Besides, You'll never really know unless your last qualifyer where you'll end up in a 50 car field.

One of the greats was Hines qualifying thursday at Kamp, He came out like 43rd. Ran a full car above the cushion the entire two laps and set third quick time.

Awesome!
Chuck, who thinks qualifications are good with the right invert. :)

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Sand bagging is for the flooding we have had here in Wisconsin this summer. :rolling

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:wink...And here I thought that we only had this type of thread in the winter.:doh::action-smiley-049:

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Rob, I think it's the spiffy paint job. That Pringles logo screams "big money"!! :rolling