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Schedule Preview
Payout and details to follow soon. MMSA 2014 > May 3 Brownstown Speedway winged May 10 Western Kentucky Speedway winged May 17 Brownstown Speedway non winged May 25 Charlestown Speedway winged May 31 Brownstown Speedway with POWRI, winged June 7 Western Kentucky Speedway winged June 14 Twin Cities Speedway North Vernon, winged June 21 Montpelier Speedway winged June 27 Chandler Motor Speedway winged July 4 Columbus Fair non winged July 11 Thunder Valley Speedway Salem, winged July 19 Clay County Speedway Flora,IL National Event with MALS July 24 Brownstown Speedway fai, non wing July 26 Twin Cities Speedway North Vernon, winged Aug 2 Western Kentucky Speedway winged Aug 15 Chandler Motor Speedway winged Aug 30 Brownstown Speedway with sprint cars*, winged Sept 6 Charlestown Speedway winged Sept 12 Thunder Valley Speedway Salem, winged Sept 19 Brownstown Speedway Friday night Sept. 20th $1000 to win $100 to start Montgomery Motorsports Park, National Event with MALS Sept 26 TBA Oct 10 Chandler Motor Speedway winged Oct 11 Tri State Haubstadt National Event with MALS We are still.negotiating some dates, but we wanted to share what we have thus far. We greatly appreciate your support! Updated 2/19/14 10:31am Dates subject to change. |
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The MMSA website is being revamped we hope to have it updated soon!
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Fresh off the press!
New dates added: Chandler Speedway in Chandler Indiana Thunder Valley Speedway in Salem Indiana. Edited: Track Location Chandler |
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not to be confused but Chandler Motor Speedway is in Chandler IN 1099 Inderieden Rd 812-630-3989
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Yes you are correct.
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Chandler Motor Speedway is in Chandler, sorry about the confusion!
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Does the track have a website?
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If i wanted to run a few races with MMSA would i have a membership i don't need MMSA points or the extra money its just a idea and wondering if i would have to have a membership.
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Originally Posted by hoscalecody: I think the MMSA rules should answer your question. You could be a "most honored" registered guest. Have we got enough races scheduled yet? You guys must be staying at the LaQuinta Inn. WOW!!!! Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
We will hopefully be at the non wing shows cars are about done
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Some of these may change up and be non wing, however that is up to the promoters. Some of the tracks are small enough the wing will not be that effective.
Hope everyone comes out regardless, hey dad those Salem races are for you ;) |
No Bloomington speedway :(
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Very exciting schedule, a lot of new tracks on here! Hope to see large car counts this year.
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Originally Posted by PatrickMead#13: will be updated regularly |
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Don't do too much non wing ! These are winged mini sprints! I like both but stick to the original!
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Originally Posted by Bear10: Winged vs. Non-Winged is another discussion all together. In the old days there was no discussion. It was wings or the highway. The only time we ever got to ran non winged around here back then was when we ran the Fun Fest at Lawrenceburg In. with the T/Q's. I guess you might say that Terry Eaglin turned us innocent winged racer into balls to the walls all out non winged racers, and that habit is hard to kick. Seems that as the drivers got more experience they wanted to prove to themselves that they could race without the wings (or Training wheels as some racers called them) on top. Kinda of like a cumming of age thing I guess. I have always been a wing supporter in the past. For racers just starting out they are both a crutch and a safety device. A crutch so that when they got in the turn just a little too fast that big old sideboard would catch the wind going sideways and prevent them from spinning out. A safety device so that when they did manage to catch someone's tire and flip the wing ate up a whole bunch of the crash energy on the first contact with the track and helped to prevent damage to the race car and driver. Another Pro for wings was that Wings were also seen as a great equalizer between experienced and non experienced drivers. The fact that the wing helps to minimize driver error put the novice on a much more even footing against more experienced drivers. Now the Cons. Wings require speed and Horsepower to work well. One reason the Mini-Lightning sprint lap time can match that of a 410 sprint car is that with the wing on we can carry so much more speed through the turns. The fact that we are so much faster in the turn and most driver mistakes are often made in the turns means that our crashes can sometimes be more spetcacular and may involve more cars. Since wings require speed to work well and since they generate more down force they also require more Horse Power, so on big race tracks a wing car with an extra 10 horsepower has a tremendous advantage over another lower powered race car. Those last 10 extra horsepower are very very expensive to purchase. This is when the cheater cheater phrase begins to be heard. I feel that like you said wings do have a place in Mini-Lightning Sprint racing. What would be nice is to be large enough to have two divisions. One with wings for new racers, to allow experience to be gained while holding them to very strict engine and fuel rules. Such as fuel if gasoline is chosen to be furnished by the sanctioning body, or methanol with strict hydrometer test for everyone. The other division could use a more lax engine rules perhaps even allowing other engine types to be allowed to compete thus maybe increasing the car count. This class would be for the more experienced racer and might be given a different name such as ______________Midget. Quarter midgets have used different names for their different classes for years. Maybe we should be thinking about this as a way to include more racers. In conclusion Bear If I were you I would not rule out non wing racing Mini-Lightning sprints just keep it an option. I am sure if you ask anyone who has ever raced a Non-Winged Mini-Lightnung sprint they would say: Definitely different and Definitely Fun. Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
Well said dad. I would like to see more non wing on the schedule, that is just my opinion due to the fact that my car doesn't have wing mounts
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I know a guy with a welder and a wing Cory!
You stopping by this weekend? |
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Originally Posted by Clay11x: Wing Spuds are a pretty easy and inexpensive fix. There are several used wings around that can be bought on the cheap also. Wing racing is a lot of fun too. Changing back and forth keeps the driver and mechanic on their toes. Most of the tracks the MMSA have picked up this year are small enough that wings won't affect performance much. On the smaller tracks it is the side boards that do all the work on these cars and due to the fact that "AERO" is not really involved at the slower track speeds engine Horsepower is not a big factor on performance. Find an old wing out there and give it a try. Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
I have wings but like running non wing better jmo
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Schedule looks great...can't wait for the season to start
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Dad,
Only thing I disagree is when u say a wing car is easier to drive. They both have there different styles but as far as being "easier" no! If you bobble with a wing on as competitive as these cars all five guys go by you and you have no chance in a heat race to gain it back or you have to race your butt off to get there.. Without the wing your chances of regaining your spots back after a bobble is much greater! So as far as easier and wings being a learning class I don't agree with that... But hey just oppinions and it's all fun and I'm glad there is diversity and honestly maybe just make it 50/50 |
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Originally Posted by Bear10: The driver with the fewest mistakes generally wins the race and in a 10 or 20 lap race one mistake is the difference between Hero and Zero. There is also a big difference between dirt and pavement racing. Old saying was "you can take the driver out of the dirt but you can't take the dirt out of the driver". All racing requires different styles of driving and very seldom do we see one driver that can excel in all forms of racing. When it's my kid out there racing that old crush proof box over his head still gives me just a little more piece of mind. Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
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The first Non-Wing race I ever ran was at Sullivan in a 600 Mini-Sprint in 1997. It was a lot of fun, even though we didn't have the car near tight enough. Still ran Top 5 and battled with my ole buddy, Brad Kuhn, for much of the feature.
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Originally Posted by treecitytornado: Are you saying Brad used to race mini sprints back in the day? I guess they might be a pretty good place to start after all. Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
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Working on that TBA.
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You know that, Bill, lol! Yes we had a good time back then and I learned a lot! Dane Carter ran against us some, as well as Boston Reid.
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I count like 25 or 26 races so far. We will usually loose 4 or 5 races to weather. That leaves us with about 20 races for the season. The reason for a points championship in racing is to get the best turn out of racers possible for each race. With so many races penned in already would it be smart to let the racers drop their worse 1 or 2 races from counting into the points championship. I like to call the championship the perfect attendance award.
Many things happen in the summer time like weddings, vacations, graduations ect. By giving the racers a grace race or two, would that not actually help with car counts? It has always been the case that if a racer missed a race they would take the attitude what the heck ain't no sense trying to make any more races because I'm already out of the chase. There are very few professional racers amongst us. We all have obligations that come before racing. Do yo think that if you could be given a race or two to drop from your points chase, would that make you more or less likley to try to make more races in the chase for the points championship? I realize that we have a few races this season that are going to be a long haul for many of us, maybe they should be worth a few more points to try to get a better count for them. Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
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Good luck selling that DAD, but that's what we had to do in SIRA, finally, to keep our car count up, it was a hard sell, but when the folks finally figured it out, it became a std of the organization, we used 2/3 I think, and in the long run, it really made things flow better, people don't realize that when they get caught up in the points racing, how pressurized they get, but I tried for years to sell it to the TQ's, and had no luck at all, not all, but most, wanted every race to count, good or bad, not understanding the bad one's only counted as SSFF, a long pull for nothing, but, some don't understand, and it seems to be getting worse. Good luck! Bob
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I like the idea of this DAD but I think if you do too many races that you can drop it will hurt your car count on the races that are a long haul for most people. I think if you just dropped 1 race it would be beneficial. Everybody has bad nights but you can't take points away from the guys that are there every week to support the series. JMO
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For any race group to be successful they need cars. To get cars involved they need either a very good purse or a very good incentive to encourage racers to show up and race. We learned a long time ago that the points championship while nice to have on your resume did not in fact add up to a lot more than a Jacket and very little cash. We love racing and even got caught up in the points thing a couple of years ago. That time it was not so much for the points championship but to help Bill May and the MMSA with car count as much as we could.
We all know that we have guys racing for the points championship only. Driving more conservative just trying to finish races and showing up every week to give them a better shot at the title. When something comes up and a racer has to miss a race, his attitude will change after that incident. Now he thinks what the heck I'm not racing for the championship anymore that race is just too far away "SO"I think I will stay home again. The MMSA started out as a traveling show. In the last few years we have been content to run at a few local tracks and not venture too far from home, because of the price of fuel and the economy in general. Well now fuel has not come down and local tracks are feeling the pinch of the economy too and it looks as if we "MIGHT BE ON THE ROAD AGAIN", as old Willie would say. That sounds like a lot of fun but also a lot of expense to the racers. Why don't we try and squeeze a hundred dollars or so out of the race purse each race, hit up a few business people--- racers to advertise in our points fund and make a points fund something worth chasing>? The most races that I think could be dropped from the points would be two maybe only one. For the races out west why don't we add like 50% to the race points all the way from sign into and all the way to main event points. Give the racers a reason for going to the races. Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
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If I missed one race to go to a wedding, and another race was coming up that payed 150% points but was another 75 or 100 miles away I would not worry too much about the points I lost to watch a friend take that long walk down the path of no return and concentrate on making that race that payed the extra points and try to stay in the chase.
For the racer that makes 100% of the races they too have bad nights they would like to forget or at least shovel under the rug. Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
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Chandler Web page does NOT show us there or any racing there on May 25th
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May 25 is Charlestown, not Chandler...
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Chandler dates are 6/27---8/15--and 1010
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