What happen between Cottle and Kuhn at the Chili Bowl?
 

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It is the mark you let us down. I typed mavtv and auto correct changed it to marc

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Maybe someone stuffed Shane on the last lap of the B Main, for a transfer spot, and Shane kicked someone's sorry *** ??

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not my video-copied from facebook.

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Can someone fill in the segment after what we saw going into 3 where Kuhn made a move to the middle and the next thing we see is Cottle flipping coming out of 4? It is unfortunate that a HOF midget driver and a HOF sprint car driver from Indiana end up squaring off like this.

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Emotions are very high at the Chili Bowl. Like back in the old days when this kinda of stuff happened much more often, and I hope like back then they forget about it by the morning.

Wonder how Chris Bell feels, I know that Kevin Swindell looked kinda of sheepish in his interview after the race, and I don't think it was because he ran second.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Honestly, I understand Shane was upset, but that wasn't the way to handle the situtation. It made him look bad to fans and especially kids too. The same thing has happened to me and the other guy apologized to me and we went on. Brad Kuhn was going for the last transfer spot on the last lap to make the Chili Bowl! I would've done the same thing! You never intentionally try to wreck someone else, because you could wreck yourself in the process. The few that have done it intentionally have been very well funded.

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HOF Midget Drivers shouldn't need to stuff someone to make a pass...I don't think Kuhn is HOF by the way. Sending someone flipping at their level is terrible. I think more of Cottle for going after him, in this day and age everyone is protected! They can do what they want with their mouths or actions and face no immediate repercussions. I prefer the times you ran your mouth and got it popped in return. Nothing wrong with a little pit fight, lot more wrong with accepting it and letting it go. Bet Kuhn thinks a little longer on feeding a tire to someone next time.

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I'm scared to see what you consider to be HOF material if you don't think he has done enough to get in?.

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Brad Kuhn is a Midget Hall of Fame driver without any doubt! It takes more of a man to walk away! Stuff happens all of the time racing! Do you think we should fight everytime somebody takes us out or gives us a heart stopping slide job? NO!

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yup, if ya wanna fight join a hockey league, seems like a lot of the midget and sprint car drivers are small in stature while cottle and a few others are not/ I go to the races to watch competitive action on track, not to watch some big dude work over some little guy for goin after a win or a position needed to transfer!

Clearly most people on this topic were not physically at the Bowl. I think both these guys are crazy good shoes. I don't favor either over the other. But that move was dirty... If that happened at Gas City, Putnamville, Kokomo etc, the same result would have occured after the race was over. Lets not forget racing is dangerous at any speed. What if someone would be plowed into Cottle while he was flipping and seriously injured him? This was more than just a racing deal

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Brad Kuhn isn't midget HOF material but Rutherford is???

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Only Dirt
Those were terrible comments. You should have felt less for Cottle, not more. Kuhn, I'm sure didn't mean to crash Cottle.

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BULLFECES !

Ty was correct in his comments.

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I can not believe how dang dirty Bulldog ran Bell the last 5 laps....that was pathetic... I'm really proud of Bell for getting through that crap without wrecking hard or without blasting Kevin after the checkers....dirty dirty dirty

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Levi Jones throws a slider at Kokomo that goes bad, people wanted to execute him. Kuhn dumps Cottle, it's a racing deal. I don't see any difference. You wreck a guy , you wreck him.

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Kyle and Rico had front row seats there at the end of the video.

There is a fine line between dirty and racing hard. All that judge either see it as half full or half empty. Most say hard racing if they like the driver, and dirty if they don't like them.

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wasn't much of a punch ..... after all of the aforementioned "Cottle" hype, I expected a little more ......yawn

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Cottle didn't big guy Kuhn at all, if he wanted to take advantage of that he would have tackled him to the ground. Kuhn wanted no part of it...he was man enough to stuff him but not face the consequences. Size of your heart and mindset has a lot to do with the fight not height. Cottle has been wrecked before and not responded this way...that how I knew it was really bad move without being there.

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First of all, CONGRATULATIONS TO BRYAN CLAUSON, RUSTY KUNZ AND JOE DOOLING

Well, here it goes folks………

Our sport is very interesting, for example…..

I went after a driver, after a midget race at DuQuoin about 4 years ago. I was berated on this site for weeks for my actions. 2 years ago, that same driver did the same crap to Bryan Clauson. Bryan went after him and was a hero (the video is also now the “teaser” for POWRi’s “Battle at the Center.”)

Wednesday night at Chili Bowl, Rico and Yeley get together on the last lap. Yeley ends up in the fence and upside down with a DNF. Rico finishes the race in 4th I believe. Not assigning fault to anyone, just pointing out that “it was a racing deal on the last lap.”

Cottle blasts Gary Taylor for a pass coming to the white flag and it is cool, Taylor goes on to finish last car running. Once again, not assigning fault to anyone, just pointing out that “it was a racing deal.” However, I deserve to have my butt kicked and “taught a lesson” so that I will think twice otherwise when I take my shot.

Maybe all the keyboard jockeys out there should get together and put a list of your stupid double standards together and post it somewhere that I can see it. It would be good to have that information available before I hit the racetrack. Maybe I should post live updates on my Facebook page before I make a move during a race, then you guys could “like” it if you think I should do it. Maybe you guys could send me your phone numbers and I could text you for approval during an 11 second lap at the Chili Bowl.

(For all of you expert by standards and professional video replay artists….I am sorry to say that Shane did not actually hit me. I am still just as ugly as I was before the B main. He was pissed and he did shove me. He also swung several times.) Probably the first time in life that my height was to my advantage.

I don’t really give a dang about what you think happened in the last corner of the last lap. You were not sitting where I was for the previous 6 laps. Matter of fact, from the sound of it, most of you were not there at the race track at all. I am not going to defend myself to any of you, period! If you like me, you would think it to be justified. If you don’t like me, you aren’t going to like me anyways. Not much for me to do about that.

Someone else said it on another thread, but basically if you like a guy, it was “just racing.” If you don’t like a guy, he “stuffed” someone or is a dirty racer.

When Hewitt spoke his mind, he was a Hero. Nowadays, a guy speak his mind and depending on who he is………he is either a crybaby (usually the case) or every now and again a fan favorite does it and “they remind me of how Hewitt was….”

I have never been a super fan favorite. I am OK with that. I spent more time building cars, racing them and at the car wash at 3 am than I did at autograph sessions. Those were my choices. I have given it my all and went from startup racer to USAC Champion. The people that were there for me then, are still there for me now. I am good with that as well and I wouldn't have it any other way.

I don’t care if anyone on here thinks that I am Hall of Fame material. You probably aren't on the selection committee anyways. It doesn't bother me if you don’t think I am a Top 3, 5 or even Top 10 kind of guy. I will proudly hang my hat on my accomplishments over the years. If that results in me being in the National Midget Hall of Fame one day, so be it. If it doesn't, then that is fine as well.

For those of you that have decided to judge my career by one slide job, in one turn, during one lap of one race that I ran over the last 15 years…..Thank You. I can only wish you the same kind of grace in the future at your place of employment. You probably know everything there is to know about everything at your office as well and that would never happen.
Have at it boys and girls => this should keep the thread alive for a while and give the keyboard jockeys that have never been in the arena something to talk about. As Jack Nicholson said in A few good men, “Either way, I don’t give a damn to what you think you are entitled to!” In this case, I don’t give a damn to what you think happened, especially if you weren’t there….I hope you enjoyed the read!

Onlydirt: Give me a call if you are ever in Avon. I would like to buy you lunch. No strings attached, just lunch and a conversation. You can even pick the place.

Brad Kuhn

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amen mr.kuhn.what did larson say after his stock car punt at daytona last yeat?,"it was the last lap".not much in the way of berating him here.looked like cottle picked himself up a few times in YOUR pit.screw what the small minded folks say on here,this is just an opinion board.have been in the seat and the last corner aint for *******.good luck to you mr. kuhn. jeff jones

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BOOM!

Very nice response Brad.

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My only complaint is next time drivers should throw hands in front if the paying customers. Why fight where the fans can't see?

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Very well said Brad, but you still stuffed him

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Very Funny! I truly laughed out loud reading your post.

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Hey there Brad, crazy race you had there. I was there, top row, section DD. I neither dislike you nor like you, maybe lean more towards the positive side I guess because of your hard charging style. Your statement, " If you like me, you would think it to be justified. If you don’t like me, you aren’t going to like me anyways." is true. For instance, I never liked Earnhardt Sr., and never, ever will, but that's me.

You also used Larson taking a guy out at Daytona to win as an example. Heck, that wasn't even the old, "Rubbing is racing." deal, it was just plain ramming. I love hard racing, but to me taking someone out on purpose to win, or pass, is the opposite of racing.

"You were not sitting where I was for the previous 6 laps." Yep, there were, I don't know, 18,000 people that weren't sitting where you were sitting. You were the only lucky guy in that position. Most of us can only dream of that. But I'm just curious if that was your intent, or were you actually trying a slide job, but miscalculated it somehow. My life won't be over if you don't reply, I was just curious.

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If you hang the iron to someone for the last spot in chili bowl A main I wouldn't take your helmet off until you get past St Louis.I am a fan of you and I was there.I agree with your post and Cottles actions.

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Like the sign says at a track in PA ; Any fighting in the pits, you go to jail. Fight on the front stretch receive $100.00.

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What happened between Cottle and Kuhn at the Chili Bowl? Bernie has a wrecked car, that's what happened.

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didn't see the contact, mav tv missed it , but I suspect it was two great racers going after a final transfer position on a very narrow, tiny little track/ think about it folks what would you expect would happen, there just wasn't enough room so they were both going for the same piece of real estate

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A post about a ON THE TRACK incident that includes the phrases " I wasn't there " or " I didn't see the wreck " shouldn't even be typed.