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Update: KT jr is NOT here! I heard he was banned

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Yeah I heard he will never race at kokomo speedway again.

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who made that decision? usac, track,or sheriff's deputy? heading lots of rumors but the fact is k.t. isn't here and him and the fans are the real losers. bad deal to miss a possible big pay day

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Eight locked in, plus 3 7-car heats? There are only 29 cars there?

I'm still confused as to how Stockton comes out clean as a whistle in all of this, when he caused the whole thing. He flat out drove into Thomas, and he did the same thing to Clayton earlier in the night. Then when they were both retaliating after the checkered, Stockton almost flipped his own car trying to get back at Thomas

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yes. only 29 ,down 8 from the first two nights. also the top eight run a king off the hill race

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Originally Posted by gtownplowboy:
who made that decision? usac, track,or sheriff's deputy? heading lots of rumors but the fact is k.t. isn't here and him and the fans are the real losers. bad deal to miss a possible big pay day

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In a text to a friend this morning Mike Dutcher said they were racing tonight.

Originally Posted by Clydesdale:
I'm still confused as to how Stockton comes out clean as a whistle in all of this, when he caused the whole thing. He flat out drove into Thomas, and he did the same thing to Clayton earlier in the night. Then when they were both retaliating after the checkered, Stockton almost flipped his own car trying to get back at Thomas

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Had nothing to do with what occurred on the track. Look at last year, everything flies when it comes to that.

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That was a nasty flip Schuerenberg took into the turn one fence. Car was trashed. Front end looked bent and fuel cell gone. He's out and ok but I think someone is hurt in the pits. Hope they're ok.

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LPS has the same car count as Kokomo at USAC's biggest race of the season. The purse at LPS is around $5000 vs $35,000 at Kokomo. Wonder why there are not more cars at Kokomo ( it will still be an awesome show). I do know that the miller/smith team are not at LPS.

Kokomo should do this show themselves next year!! When locals will by-pass a $1000 to start to race for $100 to start there has to be a common denominator? Was there a entry USAC entry fee at Kokomo, are they still taking purse money away from non USAC members?

I think the person in the pits is ok. The ambulance turned off the lights and went back to its place in the pits.

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No reason to poo poo USAC. Plenty of cars in Indiana to go around. I'm sure that any one at any track will have a good time and see a good show if they just get out. The folks here at Kokomo are excited to be here. Enjoy the races where ever you may be.

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guy was hit by the fuel cell when it went over the fence . guy is ok

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Very nice gesture for kokomo to recognize Paul hazens career tonight and push for him to get into the national sprint car hall of fame. I hope this happens while Paul is still turning wrenches.

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Originally Posted by Clydesdale:
I'm still confused as to how Stockton comes out clean as a whistle in all of this, when he caused the whole thing. He flat out drove into Thomas, and he did the same thing to Clayton earlier in the night. Then when they were both retaliating after the checkered, Stockton almost flipped his own car trying to get back at Thomas

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First off he didn't drive into Clayton, mdc got sideways and bumped him in the heat. The slidejob in the feature was close but if he wanted to wreck kt don't you think he would have done that 2 weeks ago for 5k at haubstadt? The contact between the two was not intentional. Kt and Chase talked after the feature and were fine with eachother. The reason he was not allowed in was for something he said to the sheriff who did not appreciate it and therefore did not let him in the track. Again nothing to do with kt and Chase. Hopefully kt will be back in full force the next race.

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Originally Posted by on_the_edge:
First off he didn't drive into Clayton, mdc got sideways and bumped him in the heat.

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We must have been watching different races then.

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So, was there a race last night? :15:

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Originally Posted by on_the_edge:
First off he didn't drive into Clayton, mdc got sideways and bumped him in the heat. The slidejob in the feature was close but if he wanted to wreck kt don't you think he would have done that 2 weeks ago for 5k at haubstadt? The contact between the two was not intentional. Kt and Chase talked after the feature and were fine with eachother. The reason he was not allowed in was for something he said to the sheriff who did not appreciate it and therefore did not let him in the track. Again nothing to do with kt and Chase. Hopefully kt will be back in full force the next race.

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Not bumping Daron Clayton would be hard not to do. I like watching him race as much as the next guy but he is the biggest windshield wiper racer that there is, at least at Haubstadt.

Originally Posted by on_the_edge:
First off he didn't drive into Clayton, mdc got sideways and bumped him in the heat. The slidejob in the feature was close but if he wanted to wreck kt don't you think he would have done that 2 weeks ago for 5k at haubstadt? The contact between the two was not intentional. Kt and Chase talked after the feature and were fine with eachother. The reason he was not allowed in was for something he said to the sheriff who did not appreciate it and therefore did not let him in the track. Again nothing to do with kt and Chase. Hopefully kt will be back in full force the next race.

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The word in the pits directly after the feature was the track was upset about KTs actions on the racetrack, and seemed all up in his business about it, which was why I was confused on how Stockton came out clean on this, he started the whole thing. It wasn't a slide job gone bad, it was a move to take the position, whether someone else is there or not. I understand afterwards more things were said on KT's end, but the sherriffs weren't up in Stocktons trailer like they were in KTs

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Glad $$$$ didnt fix this one!

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Originally Posted by Clydesdale:
The word in the pits directly after the feature was the track was upset about KTs actions on the racetrack, and seemed all up in his business about it, which was why I was confused on how Stockton came out clean on this, he started the whole thing. It wasn't a slide job gone bad, it was a move to take the position, whether someone else is there or not. I understand afterwards more things were said on KT's end, but the sherriffs weren't up in Stocktons trailer like they were in KTs

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By the way It's STOCKON

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Can't believe they made such a big deal over this. #32 slid right into him so I get why he was upset but don't see where it was a big deal he spun him when nobody was around.

His actions off the track in the pits was worse than on the track.

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Originally Posted by Clydesdale:
The word in the pits directly after the feature was the track was upset about KTs actions on the racetrack, and seemed all up in his business about it, which was why I was confused on how Stockton came out clean on this, he started the whole thing. It wasn't a slide job gone bad, it was a move to take the position, whether someone else is there or not. I understand afterwards more things were said on KT's end, but the sherriffs weren't up in Stocktons trailer like they were in KTs

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i would imagine first the track got "up in his business" cause he retaliated on the track with his racecar (most tracks ban on the spot for that infraction) then he got hot headed and had the sherriff "up in his business" cause he got loud....go to his twitter page and read his posts...he seems like he thinks he is justified in running his mouth to the sherriff...as i see it, he is probably lucky he wasnt arrested on top of getting booted....and IMO, his owners and sponsors cant be real happy about any of this.
also....go back a year or two and think about people he hit, ran over, wrecked, ect while he was gaining experience. those who live in glass houses.....well, you know the rest....
behind the wheel, he has come a long way....maybe time to take some anger management classes.....

Originally Posted by c47:
i would imagine first the track got "up in his business" cause he retaliated on the track with his racecar (most tracks ban on the spot for that infraction) then he got hot headed and had the sherriff "up in his business" cause he got loud....go to his twitter page and read his posts...he seems like he thinks he is justified in running his mouth to the sherriff...as i see it, he is probably lucky he wasnt arrested on top of getting booted....and IMO, his owners and sponsors cant be real happy about any of this.
also....go back a year or two and think about people he hit, ran over, wrecked, ect while he was gaining experience. those who live in glass houses.....well, you know the rest....
behind the wheel, he has come a long way....maybe time to take some anger management classes.....

"What you imagine" may be the extent of the only factual information that you possess. Kokomo Speedway and the O'Conors' have a first class facility that I love racing at. I was in the front of my own trailer when I was being frustrated with myself and the occurrences of the night. Never did I leave my trailer and say as much as one word to another competitor or crew member. Actually just the opposite. Chase and I sat down and had a civil man to man conversation about the night. I have the utmost respect for him as a driver and friend. We actually never had a cross word for each other. So now that you have some facts, please understand that just about every driver in that pit area at sometime or another has gone to the front of his or her trailer and let go of their frustration.

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although i appreciate the response, i have been involved in racing as a driver/owner/crew person for well over 40 years. i understand anger and frustration first hand and have been known to "lose it" many times for many reasons....never with good outcome.
i also know that no one gets "banned" from a track for no reason and based on your twitter posts, you were, in my opinion, justifying your anger and actions when you were approached in your trailer......and suggested that you would do the same thing under the same circumstances if they arose again.
you said nothing about the sherriff getting involved or the retaliation on the track.
its great that you and chase were able to discuss things and hopefully put them behind each of you. thats usually how it works out anyway, doesnt it? but that wasnt the basis for my post.....nor did you adress any of the issues in my post in your reply. it sounded more like pre scripted nascar damage control.

C47 I was not aware of my necessity to owe you a detailed explanation of anything concerning Friday night. I will not talk about a Sherriffs officer or anything else from that night. I will say that I respect the O'Connors, I understand the security officer has a job to do and I love that racetrack. We will be there for all USAC events next year and will enjoy every minute of the excitement that track breeds. As for how I handle things in the future, that's my call, not yours but thanks for the genuine concern. I always try to be conscious of the situation, but let me be the first to say that I'm not perfect. I love this sport and will always give it my all. C47 you have a blessed day and try as I am to go forward not backwards. I do learn from things and try to be better for it. Friday was no different, and this is not scripted but instead just straight talk.

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KT

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Probably should reach out to some others in your "apology", that may help you in the short run on getting back in.

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Originally Posted by KTJR:
C47 I was not aware of my necessity to owe you a detailed explanation of anything concerning Friday night. I will not talk about a Sherriffs officer or anything else from that night. I will say that I respect the O'Connors, I understand the security officer has a job to do and I love that racetrack. We will be there for all USAC events next year and will enjoy every minute of the excitement that track breeds. As for how I handle things in the future, that's my call, not yours but thanks for the genuine concern. I always try to be conscious of the situation, but let me be the first to say that I'm not perfect. I love this sport and will always give it my all. C47 you have a blessed day and try as I am to go forward not backwards. I do learn from things and try to be better for it. Friday was no different, and this is not scripted but instead just straight talk.

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KT

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Respect the O'Conner's? Interesting. How much "respect" did you show for them when you had your little melt down on the track? Would be interesting to hear what the O'Conner's insurance agent would have said if he/she would have been there to see you throw your little temper tantrum after the checkered flag.

How much respect was shown to the O'Conner's when you threw your little temper tantrum in the pits with the Sheriff's deputy, or track security as you call them (which the O'Conner's hire)? Just because you put on a driver's suit does not make you invincible. I bet you wouldn't act that way towards law enforcement if you were in street clothes and pulled over on the side of the road.

Kid, you're making great progress on the track from last year. You've got the talent and arguably the best wrench in the pits. Keep your head on straight and you've got a great career ahead of you.

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Lighten up people, I know times have changed a bit but if Bob Kinser got thrown out every time he punched somebody in the pits he woulda been in jail and never would have been able to make King Steve, lol....I don't think KT Jr even came close to punches....You get out there put your a$$ on the line and take all your emotions out of it and see what happens....

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interesting that you bring that up.....ask dave darland or any of the drivers that were young and learning during kinser's time. they will all tell you that you earned respect by racing clean and not pizzing off guys like bob kinser, jack hewitt, ect, because if you did, they taught you a lesson in the pits after the race and didnt think twice.
i really wish that it would go back to the days where if you did someone wrong on the track, you paid the price when you got back to the pits. and this isnt to single out any one driver....it happens in all forms of racing these days.