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If a track has 24 sprints.

Which is better?
4 heats of 6 cars.
3 heats of 8 cars.
2 heats of 12 cars.

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3 8's.

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3 heats 8 cars

3 with 8 cars.

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3 - 8's

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Ok... How many heats for 18 cars... 2 or 3?

2 ...3 if you think the fans want it.
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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
Ok... How many heats for 18 cars... 2 or 3?

3 w/18 cars

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Originally Posted by Andrew S. Quinn:
2 ...3 if you think the fans want it.
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The whole point of me asking the question is to find out what the fans want. ;)

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How many heats should you have for 55 cars?

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
If a track has 24 sprints.

Which is better?
4 heats of 6 cars.
3 heats of 8 cars.
2 heats of 12 cars.

It doesn't matter to me as long as the heats are fully inverted and the finishing order translates into feature starting positions. The heats must be "meaningful".

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Originally Posted by Andrew S. Quinn:
How many heats should you have for 55 cars?

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7

Problem is most traacks are one lane in heat races so if you draw crappy thats just about your nite bloomington does 3 heats for 18 cars only gripe about that they run 10 laps instead of 8 no reason for it from owner/ driver standpoint but with 3 heats makes people think more cars than really are most times 9 and 10 car heats just cause more yellows . jmo

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Originally Posted by Andrew S. Quinn:
How many heats should you have for 55 cars?

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6

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3-8s and no consi. 25 should be the cutoff and changer of heats

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Originally Posted by Rick Eaton:
It doesn't matter to me as long as the heats are fully inverted and the finishing order translates into feature starting positions. The heats must be "meaningful".

agreed if the heat races mean nothing why waste the time

ROB

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7-8 cars is ideal. 6 or 9 is sometimes necessary but I would error toward the side that gives the fans more racing.

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24 Cars=3 heats of 8

18 Cars=2 heats of 9

55 Cars=ASQ dreaming big after taking a pull on the crack pipe:10: 7 heats if we ever see this again.

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I got it, if qualifying is so boring, and the pill draw doesn't suit you, passing points are contriversal, just have the owners call in, and shut it off after 24 entries, then the rest can start calling somewhere else, till they find a place they can make everyone happy, no texting or emails please, or the next time you'll have to mail in your request! Sounds good to me! Really, 12 might be considered 2 b-mains, maybe 8-9 in a heat race isn't that bad, I never liked more than 4 heat races, it's a lot of track time to run 6, and only transfer 1-or 2 out of each one, and they will start tail anyway, it almost makes more sense to just load up, or not unload, if that many cars are in the pits anyway, if you don't feel lucky. I prefer to qualify, but I also understand that is still a hit or miss deal, anyway you do it, you still send another "feature" home with nothing in their bluejeans, doesn't take many nights like that to see a big fall off in car count. JMHO! Bob

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Originally Posted by racenut69:
Less than 6 cars is not interesting and more than 9 can cause the drivers to get a little too anxious..JMO!..:)

To me, this sounds like the perfect equation. :8:

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Originally Posted by Mud Packer:
55 Cars=ASQ dreaming big after taking a pull on the crack pipe:10: 7 heats if we ever see this again.

C'mon Mike,you were at a race this season that had 55 cars,and probably next yr will see 55 again at one of those races.

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Originally Posted by Andrew S. Quinn:
C'mon Mike,you were at a race this season that had 55 cars,and probably next yr will see 55 again at one of those races.

Yes I was Andrew. However, it certainly wasn't in Indiana if memory serves me correctly.:D

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
Ok... How many heats for 18 cars... 2 or 3?

2

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No more than 8 per heat. It would be very hard to transfer from the back. It would be especially unfair if it was by luck of the draw. IMO.
Thanks for asking!

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Originally Posted by Mud Packer:
Yes I was Andrew. However, it certainly wasn't in Indiana if memory serves me correctly.:D

There should be almost if not at least 50 cars at Kokomo this weekend.

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Originally Posted by Mud Packer:
Yes I was Andrew. However, it certainly wasn't in Indiana if memory serves me correctly.:D

It doesnt say which State anywhere....:D:D

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Originally Posted by Brandon Morin 98:
There should be almost if not at least 50 cars at Kokomo this weekend.

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There should be but there won't be. I will predict high 30's maybe low 40's.

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
Ok... How many heats for 18 cars... 2 or 3?

3

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Well when I'm in heat I like to come up behind the wife & errrrr wait what was the question again, I vote 3-8's

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I like seeing all the racing I can so 4/24-5/40

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Originally Posted by racegal:
No more than 8 per heat.

You might want to change your mind now ;) because that's what I was thinking.

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Doesn't matter what the racers want if it was my choice you have under 20 cars do 2 lap qualifying times than draw a invert 1-8

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Everything below is based on the assumption that a track has been prepared well enough to allow drivers to actually race and pass other cars. I realize that many times that is the case, but if you don't have that, it really doesn't matter whether you qualify or draw for heat starting position. Everything is based on luck, not skill and determination.

18 cars - 3 heats and everyone runs feature based on points
24 cars - 4 heats, top 16 in points to feature, rest from semi
55 cars - with this many cars I think you should go with 7 heats and then 4 qualifying races based on points scored in the heats. This gives someone who had bad luck another opportunity to score enough points to get into the feature. First 16 in points into the feature and then the rest from semis. A few years ago ASCS had 81 cars the first night of the Winternationals at East Bay and used this format. Ten 8 car heats. I forget how many made it to the qualifying races, but I think it was most everyone. Four qualifying races with the top 16 going to the A based on points and a couple of semis with highest points starting at the front. However, you just can't do this if you have 6 support classes taking time and wearing out the track. This can only be done if a track actually acts like a special sprint car race is actually special. It doesn't work if special races are treated like an addition to the regular night's show.

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
You might want to change your mind now ;) because that's what I was thinking.

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Great minds think alike!!!:D

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Originally Posted by Mud Packer:
24 Cars=3 heats of 8

18 Cars=2 heats of 9

55 Cars=ASQ dreaming big after taking a pull on the crack pipe:10: 7 heats if we ever see this again.

3 heats oof 8 2 heats of 9 55 cars dam Mike need couple hits of that crack pipe COUGH COUGH 5 heats of 11 :D

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I hate passing points. A fan should be able to enjoy and follow the show without a pen, paper and a calculator.

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