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D.O. 6/29/08 8:57 PM

Kevin Miller on Windtunnel tonight
 
Kevin Miller on Windtunnel tonight at 9 EST.
:dologob:

mizzmeatboy 6/29/08 9:01 PM

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Is he going to tell the world where usac is headed??

sc96 6/29/08 9:12 PM

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can i listen on the internet

dirtywhiteboy 6/29/08 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mizzmeatboy:
Is he going to tell the world where usac is headed??

We all know where USAC is headed? If you want to see where it is going just flush the toilet. "things" swirl a litle bit then eventually go down.

dirtywhiteboy 6/29/08 9:31 PM

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No answer to my question about Staab. Figures Kevin Miller would dodge a core issue for the fans he so desperately wants to get like that.

New Gen cars out of competition till 2010 at the earliest. Kevin used that Gold Crown idea again.

Pat O'Connor Fan 6/29/08 9:31 PM

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He mentioned a possibility for Gold Crown in the future :thumb

AERO410SCJA 6/29/08 9:31 PM

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Car 10 where are you?

sc96 6/29/08 9:39 PM

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So it was a fluff piece no real answers to real questions.

Go Fast 6/29/08 9:39 PM

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Same message, different day. At least he stated that the New Gen SC cars would not be back as SC cars. The Gold Crown idea seems to have stuck.

Big ideas for future development of USAC, but I wonder if our sport is capable of going where Mr. Miller wants to take it.

Also, he doesn't seem to have a grasp on the midget cost issue. Yeah you may have some manufacturers interested in midget engine production, but at what cost? 40 grand, 45 grand or more? Mr. Miller stated that he has never seen midget racing more healthy than it is now. I don't see it that way. Most average teams are on the brink of financial ruin and it won't take much more to put them fully there.

Sorry for the negativity, but I have the greatest hopes for USAC's success and pray that it grows to the level Mr. Miller hopes to acheive, but at an affordable cost.

petey 6/29/08 9:44 PM

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Fresh off of Powri's return to Haubstadt last night, If I could have gotten through over the phone I would asked him about his current position against working with other groups to co-sanction races.

Kirk Spridgeon 6/29/08 9:48 PM

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I thought it was a pretty good interview with just a few hard-hitting questions missing.

I have been told that USAC was all for co-sanctioning races as long as their chief steward could assist in race management. I think POWRi is more against co-sanctioning than USAC.

Pat O'Connor Fan 6/29/08 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Fast:
Mr. Miller stated that he has never seen midget racing more healthy than it is now. I don't see it that way.

With his comments on the topic of midgets, he seems to reveal a lack of knowledge of midget racing. One cannot use the Chili Bowl as an indicator of the health of midget racing.

DonMoore10 6/29/08 9:58 PM

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Mr. Miller has no idea what's going on in midget racing. :crying:

AERO410SCJA 6/29/08 9:59 PM

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I think you can use the Chili Bowl as an example.There are over 100 midget owners out there, that can only afford to run once race a year:D

TopFuel 6/29/08 10:01 PM

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Hahaha, midget racing has never been healthier ???? I guess that's because they get 200+ @the Chili Bowl and there was a good turnout at Knoxville.

He never answered any questions just repeated what everyone already knows.
I think USAC and the new president/CEO should be more concerned with Sprint Cars since there are so many more of them and essentially they cost the same if not less than a midget.
OH YEH 1 more thing.

Doesn't everyone, and I mean "everyone" think Mr. Miller needs to start addressing the total purse or payout in USAC, especially for the Sprint Car division??????
($4000) to win - - - Seriously :action-smiley-049:
And I must applaud Don Moore, I agree with you 100% !!:applaud:

Pat O'Connor Fan 6/29/08 10:03 PM

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This is getting scary -- I have agreed completely with Don's posts for the past couple weeks :O:
I must be off my meds again .......... :kookoo
JK, Don, but I really do agree with you on the necessity of getting the $$$ issue in midgets under control.

smith19 6/29/08 10:26 PM

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Nice little plug for speedweek and the burg at the end.

D.O. 6/29/08 10:30 PM

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I think it was all good! USAC Prez talking on National TV "LIVE".
Do you really think that the fans who watch that show know about things like the cost of racing??? Not many! or even what the Chili Bowl is? Other than Stewart and Kahne race there?.
But the non USAC fans learned a little about USAC and what they do. Maybe a few more fans might attend a race they didn't know about until tonight.

Midget racing does have a lot of support now days from manufactures. Yes the cost for teams is a lot and that needs to be addressed. But that fix doesn't come from 15 minutes on a TV show.

I heard about what I expected to hear from a show like that. Nothing that racefans who follow USAC and read IOW didn't already know for the most part.

Ink is Ink and I'm glad USAC got more than a 10 second crash video like Speed Report does.


:dologob:


Those who wish they could of reached him with a question should of asked him on Klepper's USAC show a few weeks ago. They got very few calls or questions.

IndyBound 6/29/08 10:41 PM

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Did everyone catch Robin Miller saying USAC competitors are running for the same purses he ran for in the 1970's? Could this be true? Racing cost certainly are not what they where in the 1970's.

Patti

Ovalmeister 6/29/08 10:43 PM

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I don't know Kevin Miller personally, but I feel I've learned a few things listening to him tonight. He either has never spent time with a low budget guy building a midget or sprint, late at night in his garage. Or if he has...he has forgotten what that's like. I get the impression he is ALL about the Stewart/Kahne/(insert nascar team money here). Judging by his masterful job of dodging the $45,000 midget engine question, among other non-answers, unless you have the stated Stewart $2million midget budget, sell your stuff and move on. Sorry Don Moore's of the sport....you are screwed....and no one at USAC seems to care. The future of USAC seems to involve 50,000 sq foot shops and multi-million dollar budgets.
Another question unanswered....filling the seats by marketing on websites? Ok, which ones? When? Where? Locally? Nationally?
Another unanswered question....explain again how you're gonna get midget/sprint drivers to the IRL? I heard the answer, but what was the answer? With the dancing around some of the questions posed to Kevin, he may be a candidate for dancing with the stars. No offense intended...but come on.
As for the Silver Crown division....you owners who bought "new" generation cars...better start your own division...I don't see your cars seeing the light of day again anytime soon.


Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
I thought it was a pretty good interview with just a few hard-hitting questions missing.

Spridge....I know you, I like you, I respect your opinion. Having said that, your posts are getting more and more "corporate", if that makes any sense. Come back to the grass roots fan level...that "yes man" thing only goes so far. :thumbsdown: No offense intended, just sayin.
David.

sc96 6/29/08 10:48 PM

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D.O has a good point,at least they had him on national t.v, most people who are not close to the sport have no Idea about the cost to run a race team,Most think we are all loaded and have more money than we know what to do with.Otherwise how could we afford to do what we do.

Kirk Spridgeon 6/29/08 10:57 PM

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David-
I got out of it what I expected to get out of it. As D.O. stated, this interview was more for the "non-USAC" crowd than the staunch supporters. Honestly, if anybody wants any questions answered, look him up at the track or, gasp, call into the USAC Radio Show when he's on there. I have gone right at him with some concerns of mine, and I will continue to do so....

Miller has admitted that he is not as savvy on the techincal side. Quite honestly, the problems have escalated under a regime that was not his, and he has a fairly pinpoint plan on what problems they are trying to fix. They have a timeline, and I'm interested to see what they can do to CONTROL costs. I do not feel that times are nearly as grim as some indicate - I see no reason why Don Moore's midget would not be competitive during Indiana Midget Week, which is a good thing.

It is not USAC's job to get drivers to the IRL or NASCAR. They need to be worried about getting drivers into USAC and making them happy to be there....everything else takes care of itself!

And finally - he gave a pretty straight-forward answer as to what will be happening with the New Generation cars. It was a terrible idea to begin with, and most did or should have been able to see that. With that, I think they are doing all that they can with the new cars. No one wants them - and it's going to take some serious ideas to figure out where to get races and how to pay them!

That's all I've got...still have some serious concerns about things, but I've had some encouraging talks and I try to be optimistic about what's coming....

sc96 6/29/08 11:20 PM

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For sale 2 $55,000.00 boat ankers,could also be used for a putput gulf course obstacle.

Ovalmeister 6/29/08 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
David-
I got out of it what I expected to get out of it. As D.O. stated, this interview was more for the "non-USAC" crowd than the staunch supporters. Honestly, if anybody wants any questions answered, look him up at the track or, gasp, call into the USAC Radio Show when he's on there. I have gone right at him with some concerns of mine, and I will continue to do so....

Miller has admitted that he is not as savvy on the techincal side. Quite honestly, the problems have escalated under a regime that was not his, and he has a fairly pinpoint plan on what problems they are trying to fix. They have a timeline, and I'm interested to see what they can do to CONTROL costs. I do not feel that times are nearly as grim as some indicate - I see no reason why Don Moore's midget would not be competitive during Indiana Midget Week, which is a good thing.

It is not USAC's job to get drivers to the IRL or NASCAR. They need to be worried about getting drivers into USAC and making them happy to be there....everything else takes care of itself!

And finally - he gave a pretty straight-forward answer as to what will be happening with the New Generation cars. It was a terrible idea to begin with, and most did or should have been able to see that. With that, I think they are doing all that they can with the new cars. No one wants them - and it's going to take some serious ideas to figure out where to get races and how to pay them!

That's all I've got...still have some serious concerns about things, but I've had some encouraging talks and I try to be optimistic about what's coming....


If I'm a "non-USAC" fan I'm going to the fridge for a beer during the interview. Like I do when they show world rally stuff. Point being...maybe Kevin SHOULD address the "staunch USAC supporter".

I'm interested to see what they do to control costs also. Thought maybe he would give some insight...guess not.

Love to hear Don's opinion of the direction of costs....

It isn't USAC's job to get drivers to the IRL....but a person who had some vision would realize....the local INDIANA sprint track stands would be much fuller if their sprint hero's were heading to the INDY 500. Just sayin.

Straight forward answer about the new gen silver crown cars? Really? 2010? Really? OK, I'll check back in 2010 with Mr. Miller....if he's still around. :headbang

What's the plan for the USAC/CRA division? I hear nothing but ******** from my pals out there. What about the age issue? A guy can run Winchester but not Richmond? My point of all this, is this.....I could go on and on and on with all the issues we fans want to know about. Kevin had a public national forum...and I know little more than I did before the interview. The addressing "non usac fans" is crap. Song and dance, smoke and mirrors, call it what you will. Call into a radio show for answers? Why? Kevin posts on here (which is cool). Why can't he simply post, putting these issues and rumors to rest? What's his stance on Greg Staab? Post it. CRA? Post it. Cost control? Post it.
Sorry for the rant...I do hope he knows what he's doing and gets USAC straightened out. It's just getting pretty frustrating watching my lifelong favorite club losing so much respect.

With all due respect...
David.

USAC Fan 6/30/08 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ovalmeister:
Why can't he simply post, putting these issues and rumors to rest? What's his stance on Greg Staab? Post it. CRA? Post it. Cost control? Post it.

Why? Did you ever think maybe all decisions haven't been made yet? Do you have any idea the outburst this board would have if Kevin Miller came on here and ran down all the ideas he wanted to do but then they were only able to do one or two of them? This board would rip him up and down.

Kevin comes on here now, as it is and gives people straight answers but the black helicopter conspiracy theorists are right behind telling us how he's lying, stroking us, and he doesn't care. I don't even understand why Kevin bothers. No matter what he says he gets bashed. This thread is a 100% perfect illustration.

Kevin Miller has no reason to lie about the new cars. If there was no plan to use the new cars, he would come out and say it. He said, tonight, they would be back no earlier than 2010. Don't you think it would be the least bit intelligent to wait until 2009 or late 2009 for them to make a public announcement? and that's even if 2010 is the year, they'll be back. If sc96 is so concerned about his investmen, why doesn't he pick up a phone and call Kevin? If he's not happy with the answers he gets now, maybe he should give up and just sell what he can. Incredibly shortsighted, if you ask me, but it's his choice.

This weekend USAC worked in conjunction with the IRL to stream the SC and Sprint races on both websites. Now the IRL has been doing this since last year, when USAC runs with them, but this was the first time USAC helped promote and participate it. As I was reading the posts on the USAC website, all I read was complaints about the car counts, complaints about the crowd, complaints about the feed, complaints about this, complaints about that. Seems like none of you people are happy.

You people must think Kevin Miller is some kind of miracle worker and he'll have 100,000 purses for every race, nightly national TV, flush with series sponsors overnight but you know what, it doesn't happen like that in THE REAL WORLD, not the fantasy world some of you people live in where you expect 50 cars nightly for 10 bucks admission and 50 cent Cokes and Hot dogs. Businesses are putting together their budgets for the 2009 year, so I'm sure Miller and his new people are burning up the phones working on sponsorships. Some of you people would be well-pressed to be patient and let this guy improve USAC. He didn't rebuild Mopar Racing by being a lucky idiot.

DonMoore10 6/30/08 12:30 AM

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If the rumor is true, it sounds like Emmett Hahn may be on to something with the possibility of a $10,000 Chevy midget engine hooked up to a National Series. Hurray for Mr. Hahn for stepping out of the box and coming up with some kind of idea that doesn't patronize the dozen or less multi-millionaire USAC midget teams racing for $2500. Mr. Miller's assessment that midget racing is healthy is totally rediculous. The Chili Bowl is certainly not a barometer of the health of midget racing. Wow.. put the pipe down please.

USAC Fan 6/30/08 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
spridge needs a touch of reality and become a car owner. :action-smiley-049:

Hey Don, why don't you ever attack POWRi like you attack USAC for allowing the rules they do? You have no credibility with anyone simply because your agenda is anti-USAC and everyone else gets a free pass simply because they're NOT USAC.

sceckert 6/30/08 12:51 AM

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I think a few important things are just plain missing here, in citing how progressive it is to see Kevin Miller on Wind Tunnel:
Progress is not measured by whether or not the top USAC salesman gets some Q&A time on Despain's show, while sitting in a Detroit studio. Progress is when Brad Sweet, Cole Whitt, and Chad Boat--those talents being spoken about on the air during the Q&A--are sitting together facing a litany of questions from Despain and R.Miller.
No race fan (whether casual to open wheel, but watching "Wind Tunnel" because they respect Dave, or rabid about open wheel and watching specifically because this episode promised a minimum of "Is Kyle a punk?" and "Can Little E get off the schneid?" call-ins) will be swayed one way or the other if a PR person says "The future looks great!" But give them a chance to hear the guy who swept two nights of Knoxville midget action talk about what it meant to him and his team, while the telecast shows action-packed highlights of that very race, and they might become a fan.
Or have Cole Whitt and Chad Boat describe trading the "Youngest Ever To Win a USAC National Event" honor in the span of a few nights while in a garage together, and maybe that story would really resonate with a bunch of 10 year-olds in Illinois, and push them toward asking their dads to take them to some Sprintweek shows.
I can foresee NO tangible benefit from a genuinely un-exciting Mr.Miller stating that Midget Racing has never been stronger on a channel devoted to fendered folks. I could certainly envision a possible bump coming if the actual drivers--merely the absolute bread and butter of the club itself--got a chance to throw a little flavor into such a forum. I wouldn't be surprised if their relative lack of requisite sponsor-mentioning felt like a breath of fresh air to many.
I just don't think that predictable answers from non-participants are going to move the meter. ANY race fans want to hear REAL racers talk about real races in real terms. Heroes aren't pre-sold and pre-packaged: They are created when they do heroic things. Even this Joey Logano-kid would be scoffed at for all this hype but for the fact that two weeks after he turned 18 he blitzed Kyle Busch like he was anchored to the asphalt. He is on his way because he is as real as rain.
Despain does no favors to USAC or open wheel by trading jabs with Robin Miller for an hour. He does favors when he starts introducing viewers to the almost bottomless well of driving talent currently overflowing the USAC waters.

DonMoore10 6/30/08 12:52 AM

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Where have you been for the last zillion years? All the midget orgs in the US are afraid of their own shadow. Whatever USAC does, they do.

USAC Fan 6/30/08 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
Where have you been for the last zillion years? All the midget orgs in the US are afraid of their own shadow. Whatever USAC does, they do.

That's not USAC's problem. If the USAC model is so terrible, what does that say about the groups that copy them? Not alot IMO

No comment about your anti-USAC agenda and SPEC PARTS DO NOT BELONG IN A NATIONAL SERIES. HAHN'S DEAL WILL BE A JOKE JUST LIKE HIS SPRINT CAR SERIES

AlkyMadness 6/30/08 2:14 AM

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Hahn's sprint car series is a joke? Excuse me? Maybe to 410 folks in Indiana (or more specifically on 16th Street).

And which series would you be referring to? The national tour? The dozen regional tours? The Sprint Bandits? Hmmmm. Let's see, they have a national corporate sponsor (O'Reilly), a huge list of competitors, and, well, doesn't he promote the hallowed Chili Bowl?

Personally, I'm not into 360 racing. But I wouldn't call Hahn's work a joke. There's a lot of organized sprint car racing going on in places that would otherwise be nothing but stock cars.

AlkyMadness 6/30/08 2:30 AM

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Concerning Kevin's appearance, the only concrete items I heard was:

--Announcement coming in about a month concerning Ford Focus and how it will become easier to get more 12yr olds up and running.

--New SC on the shelf until 2010.

--His kid plays Halo and is into Facebook, therefore, the future of USAC's growth and strength is online.

Otherwise, I think Ovalmeister's opinion pretty much wraps it up.

I guess it's pretty hard to promote yourself too much when you've just come off a weekend when two of your "National" series had seriously small car counts. And, the real buzz in traditional sprint cars was going on back in Paducah and Haubstadt. And your point leader and your veteran hero (Dave Darland) are back in Indiana running weekly shows.

Oh, and as far as getting some people to attend a show, I suspect the film footage lead in showing all of the sprints and midgets rolling, tumbling and flying out of the park will do that more than anything Kevin said. Honestly, why does every stinkin time sprints are shown on national TV do they have to focus on the wrecks? There's a hell of a lot more to come out and see that is thrilling than just to see someone bust their ass and become posters for orthopedic care.

Got what I expected in an ******** year: Spin

Oh, I really would have liked to have heard what Gordon Johncock was going to ask/say.

USAC Fan 6/30/08 3:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AlkyMadness:
Hahn's sprint car series is a joke? Excuse me? Maybe to 410 folks in Indiana (or more specifically on 16th Street).

And which series would you be referring to? The national tour? The dozen regional tours? The Sprint Bandits? Hmmmm. Let's see, they have a national corporate sponsor (O'Reilly), a huge list of competitors, and, well, doesn't he promote the hallowed Chili Bowl?

The National Tour? Yeah, let's see, competitors stuck with thousands of dollars in 360 motors because they bought into Hahn's BS that it would be minimal cost to a 410. Now they've got 360s that cost almost as much as 410s. Not to mention spec heads, spec gaskets, spec helmets, blah blah blah and where do you think all that money from Brodix goes? RIGHT INTO EMMETT HAHN'S POCKET. You think the USAC teams have it bad> try running a wing team on a national circuit for the same purses.

The regional series are worse. Guys who don't even run the spec heads, the gasket, incompetent tech guys, and the car counts are horrible.

The Sprint Bandits can't even get more than four races or more than 20 cars to their races. What is that point fund that O'Reilly pays? About 5 grand? Wow, whoopee.

Anyone could promote the Chili Bowl and get 200 cars. Any other promoter would probably raise the purse instead of raising the fees every year and pocketing more and more cash.

Do not kid yourself. Emmett Hahn is not the great savior, you all might think he is. He's just like USAC, in your eyes, only out for himself and to fill his pockets.

Dwight Clock 6/30/08 4:54 AM

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We had pretty much this same discussion when Kevin Miller took over as USAC head late last year. Why do we expect all the problems of USAC that have been cultivated over the last 30 years or so to be resolved in his first year on the job? The cost of midget racing has escalated for decades both in and out of USAC. A simple wave of a magic wand will not make it go away. The solution(s) will take time. The new gen cars threw the SC division into utter turmoil. Most non USAC fans know little if anything about the division. That was painfully evident this weekend when 50,000 plus people were at Richmond to watch the IRL just a couple of hours after the SC division ran their event before a nearly empty grandstands. Remember that those people could have watched the SC race for no extra cost yet chose not to. I'm sure the intense heat kept some away but not nearly all. Again, the problem will not be fixed overnight. USAC began the downslide with the death of Tony Hulman in 1977. The crash of the plane that killed eight USAC officials in 1978 as they returned from Trenton hurt immensely as well. USAC went on to lose control of Indy car racing, lost their popular stock car division, nearly lost the sprint car division with an experiment with wings in the late eighties, and is now suffering the afore mentioned problems. My point is that the problems of USAC are deep rooted and will take time to correct. Mr. Miller has a tough job on his hands, not a magic wand in his hands.

Seadog 6/30/08 8:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Clock:
We had pretty much this same discussion when Kevin Miller took over as USAC head late last year. Why do we expect all the problems of USAC that have been cultivated over the last 30 years or so to be resolved in his first year on the job? The cost of midget racing has escalated for decades both in and out of USAC. A simple wave of a magic wand will not make it go away. The solution(s) will take time. The new gen cars threw the SC division into utter turmoil. Most non USAC fans know little if anything about the division. That was painfully evident this weekend when 50,000 plus people were at Richmond to watch the IRL just a couple of hours after the SC division ran their event before a nearly empty grandstands. Remember that those people could have watched the SC race for no extra cost yet chose not to. I'm sure the intense heat kept some away but not nearly all. Again, the problem will not be fixed overnight. USAC began the downslide with the death of Tony Hulman in 1977. The crash of the plane that killed eight USAC officials in 1978 as they returned from Trenton hurt immensely as well. USAC went on to lose control of Indy car racing, lost their popular stock car division, nearly lost the sprint car division with an experiment with wings in the late eighties, and is now suffering the afore mentioned problems. My point is that the problems of USAC are deep rooted and will take time to correct. Mr. Miller has a tough job on his hands, not a magic wand in his hands.

Once again, Dwight thinks things through, and uses facts, logic and common sense in crafting a response.:respect: He needs to be on USAC's payroll. No back stabbing. No whining. No crying. No name calling. No temper tantrums. Just thoughtful and thought provoking insight.

Mud Packer 6/30/08 8:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Seadog:
Once again, Dwight thinks things through, and uses facts, logic and common sense in crafting a response.:respect: He needs to be on USAC's payroll. No back stabbing. No whining. No crying. No name calling. No temper tantrums. Just thoughtful and thought provoking insight.

And if you notice, he posted this at 4:54 AM when most of us are still fast asleep or hung over!:rolling:doh:

DonMoore10 6/30/08 8:57 AM

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It would take me 5 seconds to write a plan to drastically reduce the costs of running a midget team. :eek:

Jerry Shaw 6/30/08 9:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Clock:
We had pretty much this same discussion when Kevin Miller took over as USAC head late last year. Why do we expect all the problems of USAC that have been cultivated over the last 30 years or so to be resolved in his first year on the job? The cost of midget racing has escalated for decades both in and out of USAC. A simple wave of a magic wand will not make it go away. The solution(s) will take time. The new gen cars threw the SC division into utter turmoil. Most non USAC fans know little if anything about the division. That was painfully evident this weekend when 50,000 plus people were at Richmond to watch the IRL just a couple of hours after the SC division ran their event before a nearly empty grandstands. Remember that those people could have watched the SC race for no extra cost yet chose not to. I'm sure the intense heat kept some away but not nearly all. Again, the problem will not be fixed overnight. USAC began the downslide with the death of Tony Hulman in 1977. The crash of the plane that killed eight USAC officials in 1978 as they returned from Trenton hurt immensely as well. USAC went on to lose control of Indy car racing, lost their popular stock car division, nearly lost the sprint car division with an experiment with wings in the late eighties, and is now suffering the afore mentioned problems. My point is that the problems of USAC are deep rooted and will take time to correct. Mr. Miller has a tough job on his hands, not a magic wand in his hands.

Like most of Dwight's posts, this is a response that is both logical and fair.

I think everything that Kevin has said is up to this point has been on-message. And that message seems to be: USAC is going to change the way they market the sport, so they can put themselves into a position to be a front-gate driven organization, instead of a back-gate/competitor fee driven one. On the longer interview on DO's show, he spoke of the long-term goal of USAC being a series that could pay $10,000 to win. But, before they could do that, they need to put younger fans in the seats. Even Robin Miller made the point, last night of USAC's drivers looking like Brad Sweet, Cole Whitt, Robert Ballou, etc and ALL the fans looking exactly like he and DeSpain. And that is a fact that I've seen and had pointed out to me, for years. Until that changes, nothing else will. And the dwindling, aging fan base has, for too long, been the 800 lb gorilla in the room. And finally, there's someone in charge that's saying:

A) There's an 800 lb gorilla in the room
and
B) I have a plan to get rid of said gorilla

Miller's not talking about micromanaging the racing part of USAC. In fact, he's went out of his way to say this is not his field of expertise and he's going to let people like Bill Carey take care of that end of the business. I wish them both luck and will support the USAC brand until the day that I'm no longer satisfied with the product they put on the track. And I don't see that happening any time soon.

Jerry

767 6/30/08 9:51 AM

Re: Kevin Miller on Windtunnel tonight
 
Little bit of devils advocate here, why pay more than $4000 to win a sprint car race? The more money it pay the more teams will spend. No i am not a car owner or a sprint car driver, but if the purse say doubled, then wouldn't the teams be spending even more to get that competitive edge. I remember a few years back when TNN was covering several WoO races. Steve kinser had a $10,000 buget for titanium bolts. This was at least 5-7 years ago, what do you think that budget is now?

Charles Nungester 6/30/08 10:16 AM

Re: Kevin Miller on Windtunnel tonight
 
I know it will take time to change USAC but its been a year? Whats changed? Name one thing.
Cost is about it.

Chuck, not bashing anything but if they are promoting, wheres the comercial in the Nascar or Indy race??? Adds in papers for upcoming venues. hell I haven't even seen a working website for most of the past year.


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