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Charles Nungester 5/18/13 1:48 PM

USAC at IRP cancelled.
 
Don't shoot the messenger.

wildman92 5/18/13 1:52 PM

Well.......plan B. LPS


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Dick Monahan 5/18/13 2:03 PM

Re: USAC at IRP cancelled.
 
They're blaming the change in schedule at IMS. What has happened there?

wildman92 5/18/13 2:04 PM

Qualifying was delayed by rain


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Fred Zirzow 5/18/13 2:23 PM

Re: USAC at IRP cancelled.
 
HALL OF FAME CLASSIC CANCELLED DUE TO IMS QUALIFYING EXTENSION & THUNDERSTORM THREATS

Indianapolis, IN..........Tonight's TRAXXAS USAC "Hall of Fame" Silver Crown race at Lucas Oil Raceway has been cancelled due to the extended timetable of "Pole Day" qualifying events at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the potential threats of thunderstorms in the area. USAC recognizes the historical significance of today's motorsports events and is disappointed to cancel this race but numerous participants in tonight's program, including the Hall of Fame ceremonies, are also involved at IMS and those ceremonies would have been severely impacted. Unstable weather in the midwest also has created thunderstorm possibilities for the area. Options for rescheduling are being discussed and will be announced when they become firm.

dkdorkboy 5/18/13 2:24 PM

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Don't think they wanted to run this race very badly.

cshuman 5/18/13 2:38 PM

Blame it on the delay at IMS? Pretty sure qualifying will end at 6, as always, regardless of the delay, but I have been wrong once, maybe twice in my life lol.

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coondog 5/18/13 2:48 PM

They announced to teams to expect the fast 9 to happen from 630 to 8. Not making excuses as I'm about to blow a gasket about this. Piss poor planning on the track and USAC as far as I'm concerned.

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cshuman 5/18/13 3:05 PM

If it were a Usac show and there was a two hour rain delay, they would just scrap qualifying and draw for position.. How cool would that be at the speedway? Maybe next year?

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dirtball 5/18/13 3:10 PM

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Just like running the Hoosier 100 on Thurs. nite. If they want to change the dates, why don't they go to the old format---run the 100 in Sept. on a sat., anf Terre Haute on Sun. Double irritant!!!!!

johnnythunderhead 5/18/13 3:52 PM

are you kidding usac hasn't even considered a two hour rain delay in several years, ten minutes of rain and they pull they pull the pug and go home

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Jerry Shaw 5/18/13 4:03 PM

Re: USAC at IRP cancelled.
 
It looks like Lucas Oil Raceway Park didn't waste any time in getting this up on Facebook:

The USAC Hall of Fame Classic has been cancelled.
This event was an outside promoted event, by USAC. The decision to cancel this event was by USAC, not Lucas Oil Raceway. All questions should be forwarded to USAC at 317.247.5151.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...72773642764282

racenut69 5/18/13 4:10 PM

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hmm?
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Originally Posted by jerry shaw (Post 331211)
it looks like lucas oil raceway park didn't waste any time in getting this up on facebook:

The usac hall of fame classic has been cancelled.
This event was an outside promoted event, by usac. The decision to cancel this event was by usac, not lucas oil raceway. All questions should be forwarded to usac at 317.247.5151.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...72773642764282


Claybird33 5/18/13 4:25 PM

Thanks USAC. Since I was almost there when I got the news. What a BS excuse.

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Great Scott 5/18/13 4:56 PM

USAC if you really don't want the Silver Crown division just say so. This is an absolute slap in the face to the drivers, teams, and fans. The activities at IMS have no bearing on the RACING tonight. The Hall of Fame ceremony might have been impacted but not the racing. For a series that needs all of the help it can get, this isn't doing it any favors.

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RACEMS41 5/18/13 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by claybird33 (Post 331219)
thanks usac. Since i was almost there when i got the news. What a bs excuse.

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Hey Kevin if you want to kill this series why drag it on. Just do it. You did it before you can do it again.

mr nobody 5/18/13 8:05 PM

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I'd like to thank USAC for saving me a ton of money. I won't be going to anything USAC related. I will be cancelling my plans and reservations for Indiana Sprint Week trip. If USAC is going screw over their fans. teams, drivers and Hall of Fame Inductees this way they most certainly will not be getting any of my support or money.

30+ year fan of USAC has finally had enough of it. I would ask the last person out to turn off the light but the light has been out for years in USAC.

Charles Nungester 5/19/13 12:58 AM

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Powri wanna schedule a few Champ Car races? Theres lots of cars, Just no place or organization to race with.

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ASPHALT24 5/19/13 8:19 AM

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What a farce. Thunderstorms in the area my ass. Radar was clear for a 350 radius around the track. Cut my grass at the house around 5pm, took quick shower and brought my boy over to watch the race last night. We (especially my son) very disappointed no race. No more USAC for us. It's a beautiful day today, we are going to go up to Winchester and watch a real race. Shame on you USAC.

ThrowbackRacingTeam 5/19/13 3:55 PM

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Since when does the speedway go past six???? They never have before no matter what. How was USAC responsible for that? The fast nine thing is a bunch of BS and a slap in the face to almost 100 years of tradition. Remember, if it wasn't for USAC holding out for non-wings back in the day, you'd all get the "pleasure" of attending nothing but winged sprints.

racefan20 5/19/13 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam (Post 331441)
Since when does the speedway go past six???? They never have before no matter what. How was USAC responsible for that? The fast nine thing is a bunch of BS and a slap in the face to almost 100 years of tradition. Remember, if it wasn't for USAC holding out for non-wings back in the day, you'd all get the "pleasure" of attending nothing but winged sprints.

Since when should what time the speedway closes affect the SC race? None of the other tracks(Paragon, LPS) delayed HOPING for fans to come over after a long day at IMS. There were no tstorms anywhere close when they called it. I was mowing my grass under clear skies not 5 miles from there at 4PM. Calling this race was wrong in so many ways I cant count them. The worst was pissing people off before Thursdays race. Kinda like kicking Sargent in the nuts dont you think. Not too smart to screw with the only promoter standing behind this series

Midget 89 5/19/13 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 331446)
Since when should what time the speedway closes affect the SC race? None of the other tracks(Paragon, LPS) delayed HOPING for fans to come over after a long day at IMS. There were no tstorms anywhere close when they called it. I was mowing my grass under clear skies not 5 miles from there at 4PM. Calling this race was wrong in so many ways I cant count them. The worst was pissing people off before Thursdays race. Kinda like kicking Sargent in the nuts dont you think. Not too smart to screw with the only promoter standing behind this series

Remember, John, this is USAC. With only 34 cars this year, we may not have to worry about the Speedway for long. Bump Day...to eliminate one car.

Bill Gardner 5/19/13 4:32 PM

Does the Safety crew work at both IMS AND IRP (or whatever they call it now)?

Who else was supposed to work at both tracks?

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Midget 89 5/19/13 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner (Post 331451)
Does the Safety crew work at both IMS AND IRP (or whatever they call it now)?

Who else was supposed to work at both tracks?

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Good point. That could have been the problem.

mr nobody 5/19/13 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam (Post 331441)
Since when does the speedway go past six???? They never have before no matter what. How was USAC responsible for that? The fast nine thing is a bunch of BS and a slap in the face to almost 100 years of tradition. Remember, if it wasn't for USAC holding out for non-wings back in the day, you'd all get the "pleasure" of attending nothing but winged sprints.

The track decided to go past 6 because (like in 2011) the rain put a hold on the Pole Day qualifying earlier in the day.

While I love the fact of who got the pole, I do agree with you that the Fast 9 thing is gimmicky as can be.

Also, if USAC had been thinking back in 1961, we might still have front engine cars in the 500 and by no means am I complaining about that image. If they were still front engine cars the National Championship Trail would still be around.

Max Revs 5/19/13 6:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner (Post 331451)
Does the Safety crew work at both IMS AND IRP (or whatever they call it now)?

Who else was supposed to work at both tracks?

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Bill, there could have been TV production people, and even TV cameramen, that were going to try to work both events - just a guess on my part. Happened earlier this year when Must See Racing had a Sat to Sun rain delay, and lost people to the St. Pete Grand Prix on the same day. TV people committed to ESPN had to go to St Pete, and leave the Alabama Must See event.

Bill Gardner 5/19/13 6:12 PM

I asked it as a question but I kind of already knew some of the answers.

I have top secret sources. :3:

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Vukie 5/19/13 6:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam (Post 331441)
Since when does the speedway go past six???? They never have before no matter what. How was USAC responsible for that? The fast nine thing is a bunch of BS and a slap in the face to almost 100 years of tradition. Remember, if it wasn't for USAC holding out for non-wings back in the day, you'd all get the "pleasure" of attending nothing but winged sprints.

1968
"Fourth day time trials - Sunday May 26

With the field filled to 25 cars (eight spots open), rain kept the cars off the track until late in the day. The final scheduled day of time trials ("Bump Day") was almost a complete wash out. The traditional 6 o'clock closing time came and went, and the track was still wet. Track crews continued to work, and the track opened for practice at 6:55 p.m. After the mandatory 30-minute practice session, the track opened for time trials at 7:31 p.m.

With overcast skies and darkness looming, three cars made attempts. Bill Puterbaugh and Bill Cheesbourg completed runs, while Bobby Johns spun on his second warm up lap. At that time, officials deemed the conditions unsafe due to darkness, and postponed the remainder of qualifying until Monday morning.[3]
Time trials - Monday May 27

For the first time since 1952, time trials was pushed into a fifth day. Officials ruled that all 25 cars that were in the starting field at 6 p.m. Sunday May 26 were "locked in" and could not be bumped. In addition, all cars that were in line to qualify Sunday evening at 7:54 p.m. were eligible to make one qualifying attempt on Monday. Only cars that qualified after 6 p.m. on Sunday evening were subject to bumping (including Puterbaugh and Cheesbourg).

Ronnie Bucknum was reinstated to the field when it was determined that during his inspection, the scale used to weight the car was defective.[4] With Bucknum's car back in the field, only seven spots were now available.

Though rain hampered the day, the qualifying was successfully completed on Monday. A frantic session saw two crashes (Bob Hurt and Rick Muther). Eighteen cars took to the track to fill the seven open spots. Both Puterbaugh and Cheesebourg were bumped, and Mike Mosley was the fastest of the day. Jim Hurtubise qualified his front-engined Mallard for 30th starting position. It would be the final front-engined car to qualify for the Indy 500."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Indianapolis_500

In 1979 they had a qualifying session the day before the race.

The 500 has had several different qualifying formats since 1911. At one point it was 10 lap format not four laps.

So much for the Donald Davidson's of this board.

Bill Gardner 5/19/13 6:23 PM



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RACEMS41 5/19/13 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by max revs (Post 331468)
bill, there could have been tv production people, and even tv cameramen, that were going to try to work both events - just a guess on my part. Happened earlier this year when must see racing had a sat to sun rain delay, and lost people to the st. Pete grand prix on the same day. Tv people committed to espn had to go to st pete, and leave the alabama must see event.

Sorry I don't buy that line of thinking. If that was the case delay for awhile and wait. I would have been real upset if I towed all the way in from New York and saw clear skys and the race was cancelled.
How about some contingency planning?..... I forgot this is the new USAC.
Rain date....oops forgot again the new USAC at work.

BrentTFunk 5/19/13 9:49 PM

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I will probably take some flak, but I blame IRP. They as part of their rent were to provide safety eqt, ambulances etc. They share them with IMS so when IMS went to 8 o clock, that created the problem. They failed to mention that. If they would have waited and hot lapped at 9 or whatever that would have been a long wait for people that got there at 4. Probably no call was going to be the right one. I probably should not say I blame IRP, but there were some circumstances beyond people's control.

cwfan08 5/20/13 3:38 AM

Re: USAC at IRP cancelled.
 
I agree 100% with you Brent the circumstances couldnt have been controlled..but saying cancelling because of on track activity and throwing in a forecast thing..if all tracks cancelled with a chance of rain we would never see a race in this state lol =P..Hope everyone had a great weekend..gonna be a busy week of racing this week..Have a great Monday!

Tyler


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