Lawrenceburg Heads Up regarding back stretch parking
 

Thought this might be important for a few of you so I am reposting this message from Facebook.

Lawrenceburg Speedway Recently posted the following on Facebook:

ATTENTION BACK-STRETCH PATRONS:

It is our primary objective to serve the needs of all of our race fans and to make sure everyone has a wonderful time. It is also our objective to obey Indiana State Law.
Due to recent infractions, and observations by Indiana Excise Police , We now must enforce the following:
**Any individual brining a vehicle to park on the backstretch MUST pop the trunk/open doors for a Lawrenceburg Speedway Staff Member, observed by a law enforcement officer, to check for and inside any coolers or obvious objects that could contain alcoholic beverages. **
We would like to remind you that this has always been the law, and has always been our policy. We have always checked coolers being carried in and trusted that fans were compliant with Indiana State Law.
This is not meant to be an infringement on anyone’s experience. We have 2 choices: Our only choice is to be compliant, or, we will have to chose to ban all parking on the back stretch. Individuals who refuse to allow the cooler/vehicle check will NOT be granted parking access to the back stretch area.
Law Enforcement Officers will now be monitoring the area for this activity. Please comply, as we do not want to see any of our race fans ticketed or asked to leave.
We greatly appreciate your cooperation with this and look forward to seeing you at the races!

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:44: Awaiting the bash fest.

Not sure why anyone would bash this but knowing how things tend to go out here I'm sure someone will.

It's really no different than going to a Reds or Bengals game and having a coat or bag checked before you're allowed in.

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They posted on FB earlier and I seen two just litterally, I'll never be back again type post.

Nevermind its' always been posted and the law, It was just never policed too much. Seems that decision has been made for them :(

It doesn't take much to infuriate people these days.....you'd think L'Burg charged $7.50 for a beer like the Reds or Bengals.

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Why didn't Dave post this on here ??

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What I do not understand about this is why is The Burg being treated like this by the cops?

IMS, THAT, IRP and Tri-State to name a few, all sell beer and you can still bring in your own beer. Is it a county law and not a state law? I would think if it is a state law no one could allow carry in beer.

If the track makes the money,you can't bring in beer. If someone else sells it and makes the money, you can bring it in..

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I'm not sure if it's state law or by county. Obviously, there are laws/permits that allow alcohol into certain venues. I don't know if certain places can't get that type of permit (county thing) or choose not to (costs more to get it). Maybe only certain places are able to obtain those permits. Would love an explanation because I've always wondered what the difference is. Everytime this sort of thing happens, people get all bent about it...having an uderstanding might be good.

If you're a "race fan" and you stay away from a track because of cooler laws, then you aren't much of a fan. Stay home and drink I guess.

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It all has to do with the type permit the track holds.

I'm gratful that the Burg allows coolers. Some tracks don't. Sure, I would bring in some suds if I could(don't care for Bud products). Again, I'm grateful the policy is what it is. It allows me to save a few bucks and helps with the racing budget. Thanks Dave.
10 post in Chuck, and the discussion has been respectful. Perhaps you need a little more faith in the majority of IOW fans.

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Majority? Yeah, I have faith in that, Just saying they are in a no win situation and im sure they'll catch hell.
They catch hell if a dog craps on the fairgrounds. You think it won't happen for this?

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I bet they'll SELL more beer now.

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Send the complaining Fans to Gas City, Kokomo, Anderson or even Kentucky Speedway where no coolers are allowed!

Dave is just obeying the law,how can anyone complain about that?

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I've often wondered about this as I'm sure others have also. Please enlighten us as to the different types of permits available.

www.in.gov/atc

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It has been a bonus to bring beer in all these years. Dave can not do anything about it! I am sure the county has lost plenty of money with all the casinos opening up in Ohio. Sounds like there tightening the belt and looking for extra income where they can so offset the losses. Eldora and Tony got blamed for the same thing years ago when actually Earl got fined when the state busted them for allowing beer to be brought into the speedway when they had a bar and 50/50 drawings. I will say there is not a big benefit to pay the extra 10 bucks to park on the backstretch other than to sit in a lawnchair which is worth it to me.

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Just to be clear ... I am not complaining. The excise police do what they do, when they want to do it and there is often no explanation or rationale involved, however I do wonder what the differences in laws and permits are that allow some place to do things that other do not. I know that IMS has a special permit/exception specifically wrote into law for them. Why is Terre Haute or Haubstadt different? There are different permits available and they are all listed on the ATC website, but there is no explanation of the differences of each permit provided. If anyone has some insight I would love to hear the explanation. I can tell you that many people don't even realize that Indiana DOESN'T have an open container law. You can legally walk down the street with a beer if you like. You cannot have an open alcoholic beverage in a motor vehicle. (like a sprint car for example) Lol

Scott

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I don't understand all of the particulars, but I dealt with excise when I worked at Kokomo several owners ago. I would say they probably got a tip. I know IRP and Indy are exempt because they both have atrack over 2 miles in length on the property. Hey, it was fun while it lasted.

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The general purposes of the Alcohol & Tobacco Commission's work, as defined by law, are:
....To provide for the raising of revenue.
DUH!:11;

When you realize that the government is a FOR PROFIT CORPORATION you will understand what is going on.

Let me tell you this much- No cop is searching anything of mine without a warrant signed by a judge. I value my unalienable rights greatly, including the 4th Amendment. The People have NO rights when they are not willing to fight for them. :39:

As far as some tracks being "allowed" to sell alcohol while simultaneously allowing carry-in, and others not, well that is referred to as "Selective Enforcement" and is utterly UNLAWFUL.

It's a shame that Lawrenceburg Speedway sits on Dearborn County property, for if it didn't, Rudy could tell the Pigs, err Cops to take a hike.

It'll be tough now to get my friends (the ones who aren't hardcore racers) to come out to the track now- I always hyped it up to them that even if they didn't especially enjoy the racing, they could enjoy the tail-gating all throughout the evening. I suppose now I'll just come with my Dad instead of bringing a half-dozen paying customers along.:6:

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Why is it that people just cant enjoy the racing instead of feeling that if they cannot drink they wont support a track? Im not against a beer now and then but having to have it is crazy. I have a friend who loved racing and enjoyed owning and driving his race car but got so envolved in drinking his car not just sits in my shop and he would rather sit and drink than anything else it is destroying his life. What a sad thing he was a pretty good driver and could be again. Alcohol is ment for the fuel tank not the body. JMO Ps how many people drink at the track then drive home i have seen quite a few. As a firefighter i have seen what alcohol can do. Sad

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Keep in mind, in the not too distant past, alcohol was welcomed in the pits.

******** and "helicopter Mom" types are killing my favorite sport and it's pissing me off! :15:

BTW, alcohol can do terrible things to stupid people, and you can't fix stupid. :32:

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Little shine or gin in sprite bottle never hurt nobody now did it?..

There are ways and please don't drive drunk!
KEEP ON KEEPIN ON!

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A simple Google search will tell you that most people that hate the police, hate them because they are stupid enough to get arrested. So not consuming cheaper alcohol at an event is killing your favorite sport?

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******** and "helicopter Mom" types are killing my favorite sport and it's pissing me off! :15:

That can be change by letting your feelings be known to the ones that are "pissing you off" instead of on here where it really doesn't matter. Start sending e-mails and letters to the ones that piss you off and tell your friends to do it also while you having a beer with them.

REH

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I dont think Lawrenceburg speedway cracking down on this will kill the sport. They have been racing there for many many years. I started going there when i was eleven and thats been a long time ago. Racing to me is about good competition, good people that help other racers and familes enjoying other familes in a competitive event. not seeing how many beers you can drink or how drunk you can get. Alcohol does hurt good people as well as stupid people. My friend is not stupid but is caught in the alcohol trap. Nothing wrong with a little beer or spirits now and then there is a place for that home or bar. I have no symapthy for people who chose to drink and drive. Keep up the good work Lawrenceburg speedway thats why your still around after all these years. Im proud to see all the tracks i went to as a kid are still going strong. lots of tracks have died but prolly none of them because they stopped allowing you to bring beer

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It's not about beer, sirs. Honestly, I don't really care. All I can tell you is that this sport, from any angle you look at it, is in dire straights. If no one else can admit that, nothing will ever change, sadly.

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Enlightin us how is it in dire straits? Other than money is tight and that hurts but thats not tracks or the sports fault. its the economy we have right now. I dont know anyone thats wants our sport to die. I know i dont i just dont see that ever happening. To many of us want to beat everyone else so racing will live on. We have had bad times before.

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Chris: The cops are "pigs", racing is in "dire straights" and you can't bring your own beer? Complain much?:17:

By the way Charles, you were right. It took awhile but the boohooing has begun.

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Sadly I kind agree with him. Govt creates conditions unfavorable to people attending.

I don't go to reds of Bengals games due to 8 dollar beers and a total ban on smoking *EVEN OUTSIDE THE SEATING AREA* Memorial day and other holidays used to be major camping and event weekends, Now travel is hindered by subsidized harrasement revinue enhancement patrols. Where I feel its better just to stay home and reduce the risk of a 150.00 ticket for some ******** non law breaking charge and yes, THEY MAKE STUFF UP like following too close because the dude in front of you slammed his brakes when he seen them.

Im sure some sponsors wouldn't like it but Dumping the Liquor license and adding a ice cream machine would probably be way more profitable. That totally removes that facet of the Excise police.

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Chris, not looking to get into debate on this topic, I just wanted to clear this up for you...by letting you know by not letting our staff, who will be observed by an officer, take a quick looksie is totally your right, but, please understand that we do reserve the right to refuse back stretch parking access, and will do so if someone does not abide by this policy. Also, just want to clear this up as well: You can still drink beer on the back stretch, you just can not BYOB.

It is not meant to be an infringement on anyone's experience or privacy. They are only looking for alcoholic beverages...so, if you pop your trunk and it has 4 illegal immigrants, the president, 3 stolen flat screen TV's, Oprah, and a dead cat.....that's really not any of our business...as long as there is no alcohol in there!!

I could sit here and type for hours and explain the whos/whats/whys, but people will still disagree and not fully understand the law, policies, and consequences.

Thank you for your understanding. :)

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Kim So as long as I ditch the dead cat its cool?

This Saturday May 11th
Racing to Feature: Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints, Budweiser UMP Modifieds, Impact Sports Pure Stocks, & the Zimmer Tractor Hornets.
Budweiser Fan Appreciation Night: Pre race concert featuring the Killers B's
Racing to Feature:
Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints, Budweiser UMP Modifieds, Impact Sports Pure Stocks, & the Zimmer Tractor Hornets.

Times:
Pit Gate: 4:00pm
Front Gate: 4:00pm
Pre Race Concert: 4:00pm-6:00pm
Hot Laps: 6:00pm
Racing: 7:00pm
Prices:
Adult: $15
Kids 7-12: $7
6 & Under: FREE
Pit Pass: $25 (all ages)

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Weathers looking great and ^^^^^ Includes a free Beer-Chocolate milk and other samples.

Killer B's Rock, Bring in the Lawn Chair for a hour or so.

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How much does a beer cost? :32:

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We can't hardly bring beer in to anywhere here in cheeseland. Softball association sells beer so no carry ins, race track has no carry in signs on the fence before you enter so you shouldn't even have it in the parking lot.

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If I remember correctly it is either $2.25 or $2.50.....cheaper than the local watering hole we went to last night across from the HAR shop!!

Normally it's $3 but tomorrow is $2.50 and Budweiser will be doing a FREE beer sampling from 4-6pm during the pre race concert. Thanks, and Happy Mothers Day to all of my racing family Moms!

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My bad, Dave...Been awhile since I was in the regular grandstands...the last couple of years I have always been in the pits.



Still cheaper than where we were last night!!