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2013 MSCS schedule is now out as well at http://mscssprints.com/schedule.html...941b1e1e0e523a

Looks like 9 at TSS, 2 at Bton, 2 at Lps

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Sorry to not see Lawrenceburg, Paragon or Terre Haute on the schedule. With nine shows at Haubstadt, not much more than a local show rather than a regional series.

I like what mscs started off doing running tracks like soggy bottom, spoon river, and the always exciting Florence speedway. They were like star trek going where no sprint cars have gone before. Now they are the title sponsor for haubstadts track championship.

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I also enjoyed racing at places like Soggy Bottom, Florence, Bardstown, Ponderosa, etc. Kentucky is a Late Model state and it's tough to get good car counts sometimes and many fans seem to not want to see us pull in.:(

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fairly thin schedule of Different tracks?

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I couldn't agree more Mike,however only a few know the circumstances and I seriously doubt if we hear from them.:15: Always enjoyed going to the different venues that MSCS used to visit,but as in everyday life, things change.

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heck i don't remember a mscs at Haubstadt last year that they had 4 heats. most of the shows was with 6 cars in a heat with 3 heats. what makes you think they are going to go other places. Putnamville taking off is a big concern for me because nobody is going to want to come to southern Indiana when they dont start til 8:30 fast time where most of your drivers come from. Then some nights Tommy gets out the tractors when he doesn't need to and cost them another hour then they stay and sign autographs. I know some teams don't get back to Indy til 3 -4 clock in the morning. why would they want to come down here espically when mscs pays out 3rd place as much as Putnamville most nights. I support all the mscs shows that I can and I support Tommy every race he has but with that being said might want to look at doing something different like paying 1200 to win 950 for second 800 for 3rd 700 for 4th 600 for 5th. I am afraid that sprint car races in southern Indiana may be going down the drain in the next couple years. I remember when Hoosier Nationals would be 50 cars at Haubstadt last couple years hasn't been more then 30. Not Bashing anybody just don't want to see Haubstadt go dark.

Always amazes me with the number of expert schedulers, series owners, track owners,and officials that creep on this site with all of the know how that is necessary to do all of the above dutys with ease. Got an answer for everything.

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What he is saying makes sense and I have said that the last several years too! Only one guy gets the big check! If you want a good car count, pay good through the entire field! Everyone needs a piece of the pie!

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If ya don't want to drive to Haubstadt then don't go easy simple solution. Some people do and some live down there.

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Was wondering when it ever took Tom and crew a hour to rework the track I been going there since they opened and never saw that:14:

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I actually timed them once. From the time the 1st car rolled out for hot laps until the 1st rolled out for the feature was 210 minutes. 70 minutes of that time there were tractors on the track.

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It's a disappointing schedule and this is a "forum" for discussing Likes, Dislikes and Opinions. What's wrong with these people discussing their disappointment with the scheduling? Who are you to decide what fans, drivers, track owners and promotors discuss on here?

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You obviously did not "Get it". Sigh........:15:

Oh..... My...... Come on guys!!!!!! Are you really starting with the tractor show talk already?

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little disappointed to see the Bloomington tristate weekend in September split up.. enjoyed coming out from pa for that weekend the last few years

Pretty sure I said sometimes not all the time on the tractor parade.some of you must not go to every race. Because sometimes we are done with heats by 8:15 and only had 5 heats on the track with 3 heats of sprints and 2 heats of mods and here he comes. I mean really!! Selling cheeseburgers with that being said he is one of the best of what he does in the country. But no track in the country should have to rework the track after 5 heats. And this just didn't happen once this past year either. Some people have a job on saturday nights. main point mscs and tri state are losing cars. A lot of factors go in to it. Too many tracks run on saturday to began with. Drivers can't find rides. And payouts are going down. Just sharing facts. If u can't see cars counts are going down just look at the results in the previous years.

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Btw I'm not taking anything away from mscs or tri state speedway. They work their asses off week in week out. From my first post on here I'm just pointing out my THOUGHTS on why car counts and why the schedule is the way it is. I'm not trying to piss anybody off. Last time I checked everybody has different thoughts and this message board is here to share and talk about things. So to add as what I first saying is. Why would mscs schedule all these tracks that everybody is talking about when nobody shows up. I remember going to florence a few years ago and they had 11 cars. If nobody is going to support a full schedule then why adventure out and try new things. Gas is going up and things aren't getting better. When I was talking about payout earlier Trying to get more money through the field maybe would help with some of the cost. Its none of my business but every sancating body and track in Indiana could work on this almost everyone pays out start money up to about 10th to 8th depending where your at. That needs to change if we are going to keep this sport going. Be nice if someone could get as sponsor for their series and maybe reward them with a fuel card or something if they make 4 or 5 straight races witht that series to pay there way to the next race.JMO again. I know there is a lot of people that don't like me for saying what's on my mind. So if you want to come and call me every name in the book and yell at me tell me I'm an idiot, I can be found at tri state speedway every race in turn 3 half way up. Blake Memmer

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Isn't the lower car count issue more about there being a few tracks within a three hour radius running a decent show on Saturday nights? ... than there was 5-10 years ago?

Btw I'm not taking anything away from mscs or tri state speedway. They work their asses off week in week out. From my first post on here I'm just pointing out my THOUGHTS on why car counts and why the schedule is the way it is. I'm not trying to piss anybody off. Last time I checked everybody has different thoughts and this message board is here to share and talk about things. So to add as what I first saying is. Why would mscs schedule all these tracks that everybody is talking about when nobody shows up. I remember going to florence a few years ago and they had 11 cars. If nobody is going to support a full schedule then why adventure out and try new things. Gas is going up and things aren't getting better. When I was talking about payout earlier Trying to get more money through the field maybe would help with some of the cost. Its none of my business but every sancating body and track in Indiana could work on this almost everyone pays out start money up to about 10th to 8th depending where your at. That needs to change if we are going to keep this sport going. Be nice if someone could get as sponsor for their series and maybe reward them with a fuel card or something if they make 4 or 5 straight races witht that series to pay there way to the next race.JMO again. I know there is a lot of people that don't like me for saying what's on my mind. So if you want to come and call me every name in the book and yell at me tell me I'm an idiot, I can be found at tri state speedway every race in turn 2 half way up. Blake Memmer

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That's true to miledirt. Espically putnamville getting more and more every year. Joe has that place booming plus only 30 minutes from indy and on same time zone. This is why mscs and tri state need to try different things to make guys want to drive that far down for the shows. And another thing to is there was a lot more cars around 5 to 10 years ago.

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I thought I always seen you sitting in turn 2 at TSS Blake. :14:.

Did it not re edit. I'm at work on my phone I tried going in there and editing. Yes turn 2.it just comes down to me wanting to be able to go the races in 5 to ten years down the road. At the pace that car owners are fading away. We may be in trouble

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I dont have a problem with the mscs schedule at all as the tracks they race at are quality tracks.. the problem i have is the teaming up with usac and changing their rules to accomodate usac when there are more followers of mscs than there are usac.. for instance.. a driver goes to all of the mscs races and wins the points championship.. he then has "earned" a few provisional starts in case he encounters problems.. but when at the mscs,usac, shows provisionals are not given...not right at all in my book... and this is not just for the winner of the points but goes for others that have earned it also..mscs lets usac run all over them and i just wonder why..
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The KISS races are the races with no provisional..... the races with USAC there are 2 provisional spots given instead of the normal 1....no running over going on.

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u r correct.. i apologize usac.. but still a bad deal

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I'm sure Tommy and Loris took many peoples' concerns into their thought process while putting this schedule together and did what they believed would work best for all involved. Anybody still getting their shorts up a cave about the track prep time really needs to find another hobby. That horse is beat dead.

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Easy for you to say living in Evansville. Not so much for those that travel a few hours to get there. Have fun.

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I will drive the 90 mile trip anytime over 30 miles to Putnumville. Spiker has cleaned the place up and has worked hard, but there is no comparison in the track and preperation. Putucky is a terrible track to race on, I call it the Sprint Car Demo Derby. Haubstadt is one of the best tracks in the USA and worth the trip everytime. My feeling is the purse should be spread through the field, but Tommy is being successful. Sam Stockon Sr.

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Just do not understand what the big deal is I know what I am getting driving down there over 370 mile roundtrip for over 25 years show starts on time it only takes 20 min to turn the track over and be ready just like a regular intermission for most places.It is called the class track for a reason they have earned it the good old fashion way they are not afraid to work on it and the facilities and take the chances on the rain if it is possible we are racing no questions asked, the memorial day show a couple years ago just added to the tri-state speedway legacy.Thanks to the Helfrich's and the workers there appreciate everthing they all do every year looking forward to the next 25.

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I love running non wing sprints at Clay County, the sprints run 2nd on schedule every evening. Started out with 12-14 early in 2012 and grew to 20 plus each week. Mscs talked to me about dates here at Clay but just did not come together for a few reasons. I was excited about the offer but just did not seem to work for my local guys, and as we all know, the every week guys are the ones to help pay the fuel bill. I do have more special shows for every class this season, including the sprints opening night 3-23-13 is "sprint car spectacular 20" $1200 to win on 18 cars, $1400 to win if 25, and goes up even more if 28.
Got schedule about 75% done still tying a few things down to have complete 2013 schedule.
Kevin Bayer
www.claycountyspeedway.net

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When we first moved to area (1997) it seemed like TSS ran mostly Sundays with a few Saturday nights. It has flipped, with now just a few Sunday shows. I am not sure why they changed, probably due to complaints about late Sunday nights. There just seems to be too many tracks that run Saturday for the amount of cars available. A return to Sunday night shows might help. Kokomo is far enough North that having a show in the South won't affect them too much as far as fans and cars. Alot of us this far South are not going to make the 4+ hours trip to make it up there on a Sunday night, and vice versa. I'm not trying to start another TSS vs. Kokomo peeing match, I'm just saying they are far enough apart for both to get cars and fans.

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And then there are the poor fools (like me) who live about halfway between Kokomo and Haubstadt. :14:

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That would be a horrible problem to have.:3:

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Fool maybe, but poor, absolutely not.;) You rich former USPS carriers have so much money they don't know how to spend it.:3:

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I take hand outs :)

Hey, I didn't ever see anyone refusing J.W.s money back in the day.

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Right there with you Chuck. Ole Danny boy could fund both of our race habits for life. I can't even get him to buy me a cheeseburger.:19::3:

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Id settle for a Ice Cream at that dreaded place between Kokomo and Haubstadt.

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Must be b-town best ice cream in the hoosier state