Hazen 57 Stealth
 

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This photo posted by Joe@ScaleSprints on Picture of the Day January 29, 2013 is quite a coincidence. I have been in contact with Paul Hazen's nephew, Aaron Miller, about this very car. It is Paul's only coil car and the one that no one could get to behave on a less than smooth track. I'll let Aaron and Paul fill in the rest of the details.

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The car is owned by Shane Wade and currently resides in the showroom of his Amati Racing shop in Marion Illinois. He purchased it at the 2005 or 2006 Thanksgiving Day auction. It spent a couple of years at Wade Seiler's shop where these photos were taken.

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showroom or museum is the best place for a coil over sprint car. They look great thought.

Yep, I have drove a couple coil front Sprinters for other guys and never liked them. Good for Midgets, T.Q.s, etc., not Sprint Cars. Good old 4 Bar car is still the best!

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That car almost made me quit racing all together lol

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Casey,

Paul told me the same thing. He said they nicknamed it "jumpin jack."

Aaron

Didnt Jay Drake whip up on everyone in 1999 or 2000 with a coil front bar rear car?

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Josh jumped her all thru turn one at Kokomo breaking her in three places and rattling his brain a little.

Jerry #66j
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I disagree with this statement, our Chalk will go thru the rough just fine.

Jerry #66j
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Jay did this with the man that built the cars right there to tune in a perfect set up too. Kunz is good, no doubt.

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how bout bc in a coil front stealth seem to remember we kicked butt with him wheeling one

There is a very large difference between the "Stealth" coil over sprintcar and most other coil over cars. Twisters, Chalks, and others all had diagonal bracing holding together the front end. The "Stealth" coil over car had no diagonals parallel to the motor plate, from the motor plate forward. This resulted in a lot of flex in the front end, and as a result, a lot of unpredictability.

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We??

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I had 1 of these cars , 2k4 stealth or some thing , it was a ex bill rose car , wasted a whole yr on the thing , it was no good at all , i now run ultra max maxim coil cars and they are great but have streched the wheel base out to 90 inch , takes the bounce out of them , think the stealth was only 85 inch.

The wheel base was 87 3/8. There also was diagonals from the radiator uprights to the motor plate. V braces in the front under the radiator and a bolt in brace that went from side to side. Stealth employee from 03-05 I would say I build a few. Shus, clausons, rose, mine. The setup had to be perfect for tjem to work if it was just a tick off you were in for a horrible night which made me want to quit. That car is why I quit paul to get a drc.

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Interesting.......
Ask BC, Kevin Briscoe, or Marvel how bad the car was for them?
Some combinations are better than others.
Example one: Casey doesn't like a tight car. It didn't fit his style.
Example two: "Some guy" is commenting on "no" front diagonals... Pay attention son.
From what I "understand", that car was designed for a very specific application, and it suited it rather well from what I was told.

4wheelsinthekoosh is correct about all of the braces, and should be since he worked there.
He also mentions the brace that went from side to side and bolted in. This brace did nothing to support the front end. All other chassis manufacturers have either a X or V shape brace in that location to add lateral triangulation to the front end of the car and reduce side to side flex.
For everything to work correctly on a coil front, sway bar car, the front end has to be very stiff.

The guys that made the 2k4 Stealth fast, would have been fast in any car.

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And while we're at it... Who's great idea was it to not use a radiator mount of any kind? Or sell a roller with 2" of travel on the LF shock...

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I don't mind having to hustle a tight car sometimes, just didn't like a car bouncing all the way around the track.

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Porpoise , pogo stick and finally s***box were terms we used in description of our`s. About 5 races was all it lasted before that big torsion bar called a frame annealed and quit being drivable. It wasn`t even a pleasure to take it to the races. We did have one though that came from Dick Briscoe that Kevin drove for us a few times and had some success.

I liked my 01' Twister, I had several twisters and F5s up to 07' and in my opinion ,none of the later cars drove as well as the 01',thats just my $.02 worth

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the ex bill rose car i brought to australia had a cross welded in the front , still had the bold on mounts there but , it used to loss side bite in the ruff , i loved the car and the way it was put together but just couldent get it to work :(
I wish i had of keep trying now that i have learnt a lot more about chassis etc

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I dont remember ever seeing one of "those" cars with a shock that only had 2" of travel.

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yes casey bc kicked butt in the coil front b&l motorsports entry also in thier own coil front stealth car.. these cars are a cowboy car tho for sure tight tight tight thats what i have and thats my main complaint so far is gettin it freed up

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There was a period of time when Keith Kunz and Jay Drake had a coil car (black #67) dialed in and won a lot of races. I think it was called a Bullet chassis?? But, since then most teams seemed to have abandoned the coil-over set up and gone back to 4 bars.

Keith's car was a stealth then. It was before the rollbar cars came along. That started when jj brought that extreme chassis to sprint week and kick everyones butt.

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