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Well I have been planning all week to stay awake and watch the IRL race from Texas tonight because it always proves to be an exciting race the whole time wondering why the are starting so late. I just checked the IRL web site to see what the plan was when the Busch race runs over. Clicking on the streaming video to watch the pre-race I relized that the race is already going on and ESPN 2 is planning on tape delaying it.

So instead of watching a top teir series at one of their most exciting races we are forced to watch a couple kids and some also rans in a second teir series

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The race is on a 30 minute tape delay....big deal......Lets just be thankful that the 2 series are together....the racing this year has been outstanding!!!!! After a year or two of the series being unified, I think we all will be seeing a lot more respect from TV land....Looking forward to a GREAT race tonight...

The schedule was set for TV over 6 months ago...when there was 2 series and only 17 cars...so at that time ESPN was doing the IRL a big favor putting them on tape delay right after the NNS..trying to get more people to watch it to boost fan support....but all of us fans have seen what a HUGE difference this year has been compared to the previous years....so after toughing this year out I believe things will soon be turned around...well lets hope anyway

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According to the weekend schedule the race started at 8:30
http://www.indycar.com/schedule/pdf/...s_schedule.pdf


And with this race running late it is hard to get new fans when they can not watch the races because they are not shown when promiced or flipped around channels until womens golf finishes or shown so late no-one is going to stay up to watch the end

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8:30 Texas time
9:30 Indiana time

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OK so I guess it is local time.

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It should be a great race....got reports that the wind is howling down there..with gusts over 35mph....said that Robbie Kneivel about busted his (#($*%&#*##* trying to do his jump on the front stretch...barely landed it with a whole bunch of tail slappers but he made it......

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So we get live Adio and tape delayed video?

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aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh there they go no the mouths match the words and the pictures

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ok ..........I am watching pre race with the live audio feed of the race talking about pit stops.....come on ESPN you are better than that..

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well sean.....i guess you and I are the only 2 that care about this race....but man that was a joke......hopefully now we can enjoy the race

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Look at those grandstands!!!!!!!!

Milwalkee was packed

Indy had people in seats that were forgoteen about

and now a great crown here

It is an exciting time for the IRL

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what a joke! this race should have been on at 8 or 9 eastern time. i have sent espn2 my 2cents worth and if this is a open wheel board and if the INDY CARS mean anything to the poeple on this board. Well, get off your! and tell espn how you feel...The Indy 500 is in Indiana?
screw napcar!!!!:thumb

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amen to that sean....wow what a crowd indeed....first 5 have been great.....I knew Wheldon crashed but i had no clue he got upside down....

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If you explore the IRL site you will find video clips of almost everything including any incedent that happens in practice or quals

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thanks for that....guess i never payed any attention.....What was Briscoe thinking???? made me laugh!!:rolling

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Wow lets hope they can start stringing a couple green flag laps together

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Oh please, even as a 'second teir' series, the Nationwide series is still bigger then the IRL. Even at Texas which is usually exciting for IRL cars, their still isn't as much passing as we see at some of the most boring Nationwide races. One more thing, the IRL still doesn't do a GWC rule like NASCAR does, and that sucks for all the fans to not be able to see a race end under green.

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Thanks for that "new guy" some of us were watching it on TV....enjoying some great racing....and you come on here and spout off and ruin it.....Appreciate it....

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Do you even watch the IRL or this race?
The Leaders were running 3 wide for about 10 laps in a row

Everyone in Busch is either on their way up or their way down. It is the AAA ball of NASCAR

GWC rules only cheat the real winner of the race. Race fans understand things happen. Wahat do you want next a Lucky Dog award?

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Yes, I do normally watch the IRL races, and yes, I did watch this race.

Marco ran 3 wide on the top for a few laps and cleared them, other then that it was a pass here and their. It was definetly more exciting then the average Indy Car Race which is follow the leader for the most part, but still nothing near the average NASCAR race.

Cheating the winner out of the race? I'd lean closer to the winner being cheated into the win with the stupidity behind the rule. Fans pay money to watch a race. They pay money to watch a good finish, fans go to a race in hopes of having an exciting finish? Now is having cars wreck with 5 laps to go thus causing the leader at the time to win the race guarenteeing fans an exciting finish?

Lucky Dog? Well, I guess that could help with the problem of only 6 cars on the lead lap at the conclusion of half the races.

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that was a great race but the stream off on indycar.com only showed the leader all night and it sounded like there was quite a bit of dicing in the pack. speaking of the pack what does Vitor have to do to win one of these things

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I watched it live on the internet... who needs ESPN. I also wrote ESPN a letter courtesy of a link I found on the isitMayyet website. It would help for the future if all of you did the same

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/...contact/espntv

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You said it all. TV is so yesterday. The net is the wave of the future. I watched it live on the net while I had the sound live from 1070 The Fan on.

Disney family of networks really stinks.:moon:

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I watched it off my TiVo even later than the ESPN delay, so by the time it was over, I was half asleep. Did they ever say what caused the 3rd-from-last yellow? And, is the guy who crashed before Marco & H-R OK? I never heard about him, either.

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I watched the race the same way as we did through the party years of the 80's which requires you to be in the garage with the sound off on the tv, music on the stereo, and BEER in hand. :wink I thought it was a good race, to bad the crash happened at the end cause those last laps would have been something with those three guys battling. :Steer

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Hey, Tim, I watched it the same way you did. Except I had a beer in both hands. Entertaining race. I wish Hunter-Reay and Andretti wouldn't have wrecked, it would have been a great finish. I think H-R was the fastest car at the end, he needs to learn a little more patience. As far as the GWC, sometimes it does cheat the better car, sometimes it doesn't. We all like to see races finish under green, but I don't think that is a perfect solution either. Just wait until one of the golden boys runs out of fuel waiting to run those extra laps.

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I was patiently waiting for the race to start and watched the nascar race to kill time. I must have been getting a beer when all the exciting passing took place because I sure missed seeing it.:kookoo The IRL being delayed wasn't that big a deal to me, I stayed off the internet and news channels so the finish wouldn't be ruined for me. I love INDY but Texas is right up there too.

"Indy cars at Texas is like flying F-16's in the (RCA) Hoosierdome":checkered:

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I hate the GWC finish, why penalize a team. If they ever decide to do this, they should allow all the cars to pit for fuel only. No tires or wing adjustments. and maintain their positions, hold them in the pits till track cleanup is finished.

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Tyler I think you're on the wrong forum

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IRL SUCKS! I like how they had to have 10 laps of yellow for a broken mirror laying on the track at Indy and them not let the car go back out on the track until he put a mirror back on????? :thumbsdown: On an open wheel race car??????? What the heck has that got to do with racing?
Sprint car racing is where the REAL Drivers are at. Still going fast as ever without someone trying to change all the rules. :checkered:

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How? There's no reason why I can't speak my opinion, especially on a highly debated subject, where many people agree with myself.

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You don't understand why they didn't let Bruno Junqueira (I believe it was him) continue to race until they bolted on a mirror? Sir, they go 230mph at Indy...mirrors are kind of a good idea for safety.

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It's OK Tyler, its and open board ,don't let the people get under your skin . If you want to watch nascar and indy car and like both thats OK . Don't let some people bully you around on here . :applaud:

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The IRl is tons more exciteing than nascar. what the heck was that race sunday? BOREING. as far as the IRL, things are turning around. I thought there were more fans at texas this year than in the past. Give it some time IRL is gaining steam. Crazy thought, but wouldn't it be interesting if Humpy Wheeler joined the IRL group

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Nobody asked me but........it's all a matter of personal preference, I guess. For me, and I don't presume to speak for anyone else, the IRL offers cars I hate (euro formula) and people I've never heard of (for the most part). I've always been more into the personalities than the technology of racing. Thus, given the choice of watching Jeff Gordon, Kasey Kahne, Ryan Newman, J.J. Yeley, Mike Bliss and recently Bryan Clauson, Josh Wise, and all the others I've enjoyed following in my genre' of choice (sprint cars & midgets) or the IRL folks (whoever they are) I'll tune in to NASCAR. It's got nothing to do with jingoism. I just have never been one of the 20 or 30 people :wink who attend the sporty car events where most Indy car drivers completed their apprenticeships. Much of IRL racing seems (to me) to be an exercise of riding around at "ludicrous speed" (Spaceballs, anyone?), foot firmly planted on the floor, never driving it in a little deeper, or getting back on it a little sooner, and needing the brake only for pit stops. Requires incredible bravery, but greatly reduces the driver element in the equation for winning.

Again, that's just me. I know folks, especially those with engineering backgrounds, who have orgasms just talking about aero, paddle shifters, and all that other techno stuff. I guess it just wouldn't be good if we all liked the same thing.** :checkered:

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I love my Indy cars. I have since 1980 and I will never stop loving it. HOWEVER..... I have a few opinions on what the sport should do.

First..... eliminate mandatory wing angles. This is a total load of crap. What does this do? In theory it makes everyone the same speed. But in reality all it does is allow the big buck teams that can spend millions in the wind tunnel to gain that 2 or 3 mph advantage over the competition. This crap of NEGATIVE rear wing angles at indo to find speed is ridiculous. Maybe one of you engineering grads can weigh in on this aspect.... but it seems to me a negative rear wing angle creats lift in the rear..... so when this car spins it becomes POSITIVE.... meaning the rear plants and does not spin anymore and you back it into the wall. Remember the slew of back injuries? ELIMINATE MANDATORY WING ANGLES!

Second..... this one will stir the pot..... ELIMINATE GROUND EFFECTS! Flat-bottoms, baby! NOW the DRIVER is back in control of the car... not pedal flat on the floor relying on the millions spent in the tunnel tweaking the cars. This will allow ALL teams..... big, small or indifferent.... an opportunity to win. Your driver may be in mediocre equipment but with a good setup and a nerve check, your driver has a shot.

You do this and it would put the Indy cars back in the hands of the drivers.... and more people have a shot. As it it now unless you are Penske/Ganassi/AGR you are screwed.

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[QUOTE=FishBurger;46012]
I know folks, especially those with engineering backgrounds, who have orgasms just talking about aero QUOTE]

I can't imagine anyone having an ****** talking about Aero!:O::rolling

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MudPacker said:

"I can't imagine anyone having an ****** talking about Aero!:O::rolling "

Mike, I'm guessing you haven't met the fine folks at Budweiser. Aero largely responsible for bonuses for all employees. :wink

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Oh yeah! I completely forgot about those folks.:kookoo

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why are the indy lights so competive? Very good raceing in that class, so of that lack of technology needs to move over to the big class