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sprntr 8/12/12 3:38 PM

Bettenhausen 100
 
What teams will show up for the Bettenhausen 100 saturday?

steiny
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sprntr 8/13/12 4:57 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
No one willing to guess?

Are has USAC killed all interest in the Silver Crown Series?

richie 8/13/12 5:50 PM

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I'll be there in attendance. My expected list has 25 cars. One of those is TBA.

3 A.J. Fike
10 Levi Jones
14 Shane Cottle
16 Tracy Hines
17 Bryan Clauson
19 Kody Swanson
20 Shane Hollingsworth
21 Brian Tyler
22 Bobby East
23 Tanner Swanson
25 Jimmy Kite
26 Aaron Pierce
27 Jerry Coons Jr.
29 Bud Kaeding
39 Rich Tobias, Jr.
43 ???
50 Zach Daum
51 Russ Gamester
55 Randy Bateman
56 Dave Darland
63 Justin Grant
77 Chris Urish
78 Todd Kane
114 Shane Cockrum
500 Steve Adams

mscs20 8/13/12 6:04 PM

No Donnie Beechler, he retired again. The car is suppose to be there with someone else in it.
No Randy Bateman either.
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miledirt 8/13/12 6:09 PM

Wonder if Joey Moughan will be in Beechlers car

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ThePurple73 8/13/12 6:12 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
How long has Randy Bateman ran champ cars? Seems like a long time.

Any new cars or teams?

richie 8/13/12 6:17 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 

Originally Posted by ThePurple73:
How long has Randy Bateman ran champ cars? Seems like a long time.

I think 1984 might have been his rookie year in the Silver Crown cars.

racephoto1 8/13/12 7:38 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
From what I've heard some guy named Shane Cottle is supposed to be in the 14 car.:)

ISF 8/13/12 7:55 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
Does anybody know if Ol' Jack Hewitt will be at The Bettenhausen 100 with his two seater?

ThePurple73 8/13/12 7:58 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
What about the nice looking blue car with the gold leaf number out of PA?

richie 8/13/12 8:21 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
Any info on the Nix #43 or the DePalma #63?

These cars were both at the Hoosier Hundred back in May with Robert Ballou driving the #43 and Justin Grant in the #63.

Wondering if these two cars will be back with the same driver lineup or even be there at all.

Also, what number is Rich Tobias's car going to be?

opendirt63 8/13/12 9:52 PM

Justin grant will be in the 63 at Springfield.

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Jack Dupp 8/13/12 10:11 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
Randy Bateman fired up his champ car Sunday (12th). He was happy with the results. Looking to get some chassis dynomometer time this week. Hopefully he has the fuel system dialed in for ethanol and the car will pull good on the dyno. If so the 55 should be at Springfield this weekend.

SpfldMile 8/14/12 11:58 AM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
The prediction for weather right now is for about 75 and sunny, should be a great day. I also heard Cottle will be in the 14. It sure would be nice to see Stanbrough in the 37. I hope the teams have a handle on the ethanol deal, it has been somewhat of a debacle. There are definitely some cars that are still stayin away. I guess I can't blame them. Regardless, I'm excited and looking forward to a great day at my favorite track.

John P Huss 8/14/12 12:29 PM

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What about ThrowBack Racing. Didn't see a entry?
Best Regards,
John:32:

Dick Mahoney 8/14/12 4:14 PM

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no Jack Hewitt as per the man himself

ISF 8/15/12 12:20 AM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
Too bad. We always enjoyed hangin' out a little while with Ol' Jack after the Bettenhausen.

SC90 8/16/12 3:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePurple73:
What about the nice looking blue car with the gold leaf number out of PA?

I wish! Unfortunately we won't be able to make it this year. Thanks for thinking about us though!!

illiNOISE 8/16/12 8:03 AM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
WOW, check out how clueless this Springfield State Journal Register writer is about the Silver Crown cars.

Quote: The weekend’s first race — the USAC Silver Crown Series Tony Bettenhausen 100 — is an open-wheel contest with cars similar in design to those found on the Formula 1 and Indy Car circuits.

http://www.sj-r.com/features/x148922...-at-state-fair

Seadog 8/16/12 8:07 AM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 

Originally Posted by richie:
Also, what number is Rich Tobias's car going to be?

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/sho...car-Sneak-Peek

sprntr 8/16/12 4:51 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 

Originally Posted by SC90:
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I wish! Unfortunately we won't be able to make it this year. Thanks for thinking about us though!!

How is Hotrod's recovery progressing?

steiny
formerly crewman for the Nix 43
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billwill7 8/16/12 6:43 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
That's Jon Heydenrich ride.

nailer 8/17/12 9:48 AM

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the 50 won't be there per Zach a few days ago champ cars are parked rest of the year.


Dave

jim goerge 8/17/12 2:15 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
Calling Mr. Funk to answer this :8:

illiNOISE 8/17/12 7:43 PM

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We're a mere 15 hours away from hot laps tommorow, and still NOTHING on USAC's Facebook wall promoting the race. Yet they have a big ad on the wall for Tri City's Sprint show--that's two weeks away. Yeah, I think one can see how the folks on 16th Street regard the SC division.

ThePurple73 8/17/12 9:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SC90:
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I wish! Unfortunately we won't be able to make it this year. Thanks for thinking about us though!!

The 90 car is the ultimate of what a race car should look like.
We will keep an eye out. Maybe there will be a 73 car next year!

mr nobody 8/18/12 7:30 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
21 cars (20 taking time and starting the race) is not a good sign for this series. The 5, 37, 43, 56, 50 weren't there from 2011 (among others I can't think of). There were two additional cars there this year (7 and 141) and yet there was still a loss of cars. Sad that this series has fallen so far but I completely side with the small owners of Silver Crown cars. They don't have massive R&D budgets to convert over to ethanol. As evidenced today, one car burned a piston and multiple engine overheating are only going to continue to plague this series until things change. Those changes are needed fast before this series is gone.

miledirt 8/18/12 8:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mr nobody:
21 cars (20 taking time and starting the race) is not a good sign for this series. The 5, 37, 43, 56, 50 weren't there from 2011 (among others I can't think of). There were two additional cars there this year (7 and 141) and yet there was still a loss of cars. Sad that this series has fallen so far but I completely side with the small owners of Silver Crown cars. They don't have massive R&D budgets to convert over to ethanol. As evidenced today, one car burned a piston and multiple engine overheating are only going to continue to plague this series until things change. Those changes are needed fast before this series is gone.

I sure hope USAC gets this figured out. I went today and it was still a good show to see those cars on the dirt mile, but 21 cars... really?! It's time for those in leadership to get this deal straightened out, take care of their owners, and give some communication to their fans. Because as it is now, this deal stinks

koolaid89 8/18/12 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by miledirt:
I sure hope USAC gets this figured out. I went today and it was still a good show to see those cars on the dirt mile, but 21 cars... really?! It's time for those in leadership to get this deal straightened out, take care of their owners, and give some communication to their fans. Because as it is now, this deal stinks

Are you talking about the same usac the rest of us know? When's the last time they've done something productive for open wheel racing?

ossuks 8/18/12 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mr nobody:
21 cars (20 taking time and starting the race) is not a good sign for this series. The 5, 37, 43, 56, 50 weren't there from 2011 (among others I can't think of). There were two additional cars there this year (7 and 141) and yet there was still a loss of cars. Sad that this series has fallen so far but I completely side with the small owners of Silver Crown cars. They don't have massive R&D budgets to convert over to ethanol. As evidenced today, one car burned a piston and multiple engine overheating are only going to continue to plague this series until things change. Those changes are needed fast before this series is gone.

There is no place in USAC for the small teams, or at least that was the message to me from Kevin when he replaced me for issuing a black flag to one of his "super teams"( and no it was not TSR, they would have handled it)! This SC issue is :deadhorse: his motto was "why do we need them?"

Jerry Spencer 8/18/12 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ossuks:
There is no place in USAC for the small teams, or at least that was the message to me from Kevin when he replaced me for issuing a black flag to one of his "super teams"( and no it was not TSR, they would have handled it)! This SC issue is :deadhorse: his motto was "why do we need them?"

Wow, interesting.

Jerry

koolaid89 8/19/12 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Spencer:
Wow, interesting.

Jerry

More like sickening...

duel 8/19/12 12:43 AM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
seems as if usac has put most of their energy into sprints on dirt only and off road trucks. The big cars need to be taken care of. usac management has dumped pavement sprints to wing groups and is now trying to be too green with the big cars. Let teams use what fuel they want be it corn or diesel.

ThrowbackRacingTeam 8/19/12 1:55 AM

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Maybe ASCS could replace USAC for these cars. The lack of forsight by USAC is unforgivable. It's time for positive change , no more negative.

illiNOISE 8/19/12 4:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam:
Maybe ASCS could replace USAC for these cars. The lack of forsight by USAC is unforgivable. It's time for positive change , no more negative.

I'm not sure there's enough interest--meaning, potential for profit--in the Silver Crown cars for anyone to sanction the division if USAC were to finally drop it.

Like I said earlier, USAC does virtually nothing to promote the series. Why not work with the State Fair to promote the race all week leading up to Saturday? There was no mention of yesterday's race on the State Fair Facebook page. But why should they care about helping the race if USAC itself doesn't care?

I don't get not using social media to it's fullest advantage. It's freaking FREE, TARGETED advertising. USAC has 16,000 likes, while the Illinois State Fair FB page has 23,000. (And I don't think it's too much of a stretch to speculate that most of those 23k folks are unique from the 16k liking the USAC page.) Throw each other a bone. USAC could post status updates like "The TRAXXAS Silver Crown Series cares about conserving the envirornment by using Ethanol produced by farmers. Speaking of conservation, be sure to stop by Conservation World before, between races, or after the Tony Bettenhausen 100." Maybe if USAC took the one or two minutes to post something along those lines, we could get the Fair to mention the race, instead of merely touting "Park Conservation Day" like they did yesterday.

And whatever happend to having a promotional show car out in front of the pork producers tent on Grandstand Avenue all week? I know some years back, there would be either an Ethanol ARCA car, or an American Indy Car Series car up there. I know the Excite Silver Crown show car was in front of the Grandstand yesterday. But does anyone know if it was it there earlier in the week? I know I didn't see it when I visited the Fair last Saturday.

It seems to me that USAC might really stand for "You Suck At Communication."

mr nobody 8/19/12 5:19 AM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
POWRI would be a great sanctioning organization if they would want to get involved. They use to have a car (Tim Siner) compete in this series years ago (2005 or so) and they would be able to help build and grow this division. They have done that with their National Midget series and Micro series. Whether or not they wish to get involved would strictly be their choice but having been around them since their inception, I can say with complete confidence that Siner and Brown would be two of the best people this series could get.

ThrowbackRacingTeam 8/19/12 8:56 AM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
I did see a nice television ad for the race at my motel friday night put out by Track Enterprises. I also thought it was the best crowd I've seen there in quite a few years, probably a money maker. The champ car count was down but the mod count was up and they put on a much better race. The champ car race was pretty decent and all the double file restarts were awesome. Overall I was pleased with the racing, just disappointed in USAC's decisions that have led to the low count. They should have known those speedway cars were too ugly to go over and switching fuels was unnecessary at this fragile point in time , economically. Look at it this way though, at the present moment they have more Silver Crown cars showing up than licensed regular sprints or midgets!

SpfldMile 8/19/12 10:24 AM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
Overall, I enjoyed it. There are definitely some problems facing the SC division, though. I do want to say thanks to the owners and drivers that put on a good show. I love to see these cars take on the miles. It's not a sprint car race, it's a totally different type of finesse driving that I enjoy watching just as much. I also went to Macon and watched a great field of midgets buzz around that little bullring. Congrats to BC who held off a charging JCJ to win.

sprntr 8/19/12 12:11 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
Once again I ask: If Kevin Miller is such a flipping genius, why did MOPAR show him the door?

steiny
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racephoto1 8/19/12 12:49 PM

Re: Bettenhausen 100
 
I went yesterday out of my love for Champ Dirt Cars. I know that if I miss one on a mile, I may miss the last one. Hopefully I'm wrong. It's sad to see USAC crap on the ONLY series they have exclusively, but of course that doesn't fit their business model, only the Ignite money does.

I'd like to congratulate A.J. Fike on his win. It's been a long time coming, and I can think of no one who has worked harder at it to get it.
Also like to give American Racer a pat on the back too. If you have a Champ Car , they make the ONLY tire to run for the miles.

As for the future, there is somebody VERY interested in taking this away from USAC, but it will hinge on Bob Sargeant. If he says yes, then at least they will be part of an organization that appreciates racers, as they have proven with their midget series.

Appreciating racers, a concept that USAC should try.


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