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sfracer55 8/4/12 8:18 PM

Plymouth Speedway $2000 win Aug 11
 
Plymouth Speedway Bull Ring

Rain makeup date for Aug 4 show will be August 11:

nonwing sprints - $2000 win!
UMP Mods - $1000 win!
600 nonwing sprints - $750 win!
and FWD Hornets

Track owner Ed Kennedy was so impressed with the turnout tonight Aug 4 as the rain was falling, that he increased the purse to make for an even better night of racing at the Bull Ring Aug 11.

August 4 show saw 15 nw sprints, 27 mods, and 25 600cc nw minisprints leave as the rains fell hard and heavy at the track. And we know more were on the way but the rain kept them home.

Drivers, crews, and fans can reuse their wristbands, tickets, or receipts for the August 11 show.

Any questions go to www.plymouthspeedway.net or call the track directly.

Wait! Did I forget to mention how overwhelming the response was tonight! Big thanks to all and see you next week . . .

koolaid89 8/4/12 9:00 PM

Re: Plymouth Speedway $2000 win Aug 11
 
Terrible move scheduling against USAC just up the road when you guys are short on cars to begin with.:42::

martinfan 8/4/12 9:16 PM

Re: Plymouth Speedway $2000 win Aug 11
 
If you do have questions please email your questions to plymouthspeedway@yahoo.com for a faster response.

koolaid89 8/4/12 10:08 PM

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No questions here, I'd like to see you guys make a go of this deal but it's gonna be tough with logic like that.

john3g 8/4/12 11:52 PM

Logic? Really? Wow that's the smartest thing they could do. Plymouth will have close to 25 cars possibly more. The USAC show will have the hardest job being out of their comfort zone and running on a big 1/2mile in the middle of 360 wing country. I hope the best for Hartford they need it as much as any track does but the logic seems pretty clear to me..

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Originally Posted by koolaid89 (Post 295373)
Terrible move scheduling against USAC just up the road when you guys are short on cars to begin with.:42::

Short of cars??? Plymouth was far from "short of cars"! They would probably end up with 23 to 25 Sprints and a total of 60-70 Race cars in the pits so I would say that's far from short... MSCS 24 cars with 5k up for grabs for the top spot, WoO's 21cars, Kokomo 18-20 avg for a weekly program,Only 18 sprints showed at p'ville Tonight and the same with most other tracks. So I would have to say it sounds more like the norm or even a little above avg than "low".
I'm thrilled for them and want nothing but the best for Mr Kennedy and the entire Plymouth Speedway staff...
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duel 8/5/12 12:05 AM

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I heard it was $1500.00 to win at south bend tonight. The rain out is trying to grab cars that might come north to run on wicked 9/16. MTS said they would work with USAC? The best will be at Hartford. :23:

john3g 8/5/12 2:17 AM

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Originally Posted by duel (Post 295460)
I heard it was $1500.00 to win at south bend tonight. The rain out is trying to grab cars that might come north to run on wicked 9/16. MTS said they would work with USAC? The best will be at Hartford. :23:

It was $1500 at Plymouth (not sure about South Bend they had a special stock car race going on tonight) but after it rained out it

was announced that Mr Kennedy raised it to $2k for the MTS sprints. At the end of the day it doesn't matter where you go as long as you go some place...

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sfracer55 8/5/12 10:24 AM

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Let's make this clear, this isn't a Hartford vs Plymouth deal at all. It is unfortunate that Hartford's only Saturday night race happens to be this Saturday. We had a rainout and we didn't want to postpone the makeup date too long. We had a great car count and we wanted to race on our little track. We have future events planned so Aug 11 seemed the best opportunity to get drivers back to challenge on the Bull Ring.

Ed Kennedy appreciated the long tow most MTS Sprints made as well as mods and 600 mini's showing tremendous support, so he increased the purse for all classes. That is a class act.

Koolaid 89, contrary to your continual Monday morning track ownership quarterbacking, which is nothing new from you, there are lots of sprint cars in the tri-state area and as all the drivers proved last night, there is support for Plymouth. Joe Irwin at MTS supported our decision for Aug 11 (I should know I was standing next to him when asked).

The track staff and ownership at Plymouth support Hartford Speedway and hope it has a successful USAC show. The Hartford folks are great people and the drivers they attract are great competitors.

We hope to see drivers, crews, and of course the awesome dirt race fans make the trip back to the Bull Ring.

PIT CART 8/5/12 10:58 AM

They raise the prize money and people still complain. I have heard that the MTS guys didn't want to run a half mile anyway. Now they can run Plymouth instead.

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19racer 8/5/12 11:14 AM

Kokomo been averaging 25 plus cars. Believe only one night there was no b main.. And the teams that run USAC will follow them as they run for points. Just from word of mouth and I've not been to the dirt track inside the asphalt track that's it's really to small for the big sprint cars to run on.

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staggerman 8/5/12 11:25 AM

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I think Koolaid and many others from MI are really looking forward to having the USAC races in MI for two nights instead of driving the 4-5 hours most MI guys do to see nonwinged action. If I-96 and Hartford don't even get enough cars for a full field got to think this will be a one year deal. Not sure the deal with the MTS of why they would not want to support the USAC show in their backyard seeing with USAC their start money is close to what MTS shows pay to win. I think it is just frustrating to the MI fans who would love to see USAC annually in the Wolverine state.

Spi-nex 8/5/12 1:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by staggerman (Post 295538)
I think Koolaid and many others from MI are really looking forward to having the USAC races in MI for two nights instead of driving the 4-5 hours most MI guys do to see nonwinged action. If I-96 and Hartford don't even get enough cars for a full field got to think this will be a one year deal. Not sure the deal with the MTS of why they would not want to support the USAC show in their backyard seeing with USAC their start money is close to what MTS shows pay to win. I think it is just frustrating to the MI fans who would love to see USAC annually in the Wolverine state.

Really, Really glad that someone see's the big picture....

koolaid89 8/5/12 3:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john3g (Post 295456)
Logic? Really? Wow that's the smartest thing they could do. Plymouth will have close to 25 cars possibly more. The USAC show will have the hardest job being out of their comfort zone and running on a big 1/2mile in the middle of 360 wing country. I hope the best for Hartford they need it as much as any track does but the logic seems pretty clear to me..

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Short of cars??? Plymouth was far from "short of cars"! They would probably end up with 23 to 25 Sprints and a total of 60-70 Race cars in the pits so I would say that's far from short... MSCS 24 cars with 5k up for grabs for the top spot, WoO's 21cars, Kokomo 18-20 avg for a weekly program,Only 18 sprints showed at p'ville Tonight and the same with most other tracks. So I would have to say it sounds more like the norm or even a little above avg than "low".
I'm thrilled for them and want nothing but the best for Mr Kennedy and the entire Plymouth Speedway staff...
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360 country? 23-25 Sprints? Not sure if you're aware, but they had 16 or so cars which is a respectable increase from the opener but not close to the numbers you're spewing. (Do you work in the private sector?)

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Originally Posted by duel (Post 295460)
I heard it was $1500.00 to win at south bend tonight. The rain out is trying to grab cars that might come north to run on wicked 9/16. MTS said they would work with USAC? The best will be at Hartford. :23:

You're right, HMS will have the best PMS will get the rest. Not to say they won't make a great show of it.

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Originally Posted by sfracer55 (Post 295521)
Let's make this clear, this isn't a Hartford vs Plymouth deal at all. It is unfortunate that Hartford's only Saturday night race happens to be this Saturday. We had a rainout and we didn't want to postpone the makeup date too long. We had a great car count and we wanted to race on our little track. We have future events planned so Aug 11 seemed the best opportunity to get drivers back to challenge on the Bull Ring.

Ed Kennedy appreciated the long tow most MTS Sprints made as well as mods and 600 mini's showing tremendous support, so he increased the purse for all classes. That is a class act.

Koolaid 89, contrary to your continual Monday morning track ownership quarterbacking, which is nothing new from you, there are lots of sprint cars in the tri-state area and as all the drivers proved last night, there is support for Plymouth. Joe Irwin at MTS supported our decision for Aug 11 (I should know I was standing next to him when asked).

The track staff and ownership at Plymouth support Hartford Speedway and hope it has a successful USAC show. The Hartford folks are great people and the drivers they attract are great competitors.

We hope to see drivers, crews, and of course the awesome dirt race fans make the trip back to the Bull Ring.

It may not be a HMS vs PMS deal to you because you're too close to the forest to see the trees Matt. That show has been on HMS's schedule for quite some time and it shows a blatant disregard for HMS, USAC and others with a vested interest in the show.

None the less it'll all work out in the end, I have great confidence in that.

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Originally Posted by PIT CART (Post 295524)
They raise the prize money and people still complain. I have heard that the MTS guys didn't want to run a half mile anyway. Now they can run Plymouth instead.

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I think it's great that they've raised the purse! I'm disappointed in the poor decision on the rain date. Apparently it's too much work to promote something more than a week out.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by staggerman (Post 295538)
I think Koolaid and many others from MI are really looking forward to having the USAC races in MI for two nights instead of driving the 4-5 hours most MI guys do to see nonwinged action. If I-96 and Hartford don't even get enough cars for a full field got to think this will be a one year deal. Not sure the deal with the MTS of why they would not want to support the USAC show in their backyard seeing with USAC their start money is close to what MTS shows pay to win. I think it is just frustrating to the MI fans who would love to see USAC annually in the Wolverine state.

Don't know who the heck you are, but if you come to 96 or HMS next weekend I owe ya a beer. :32:

Drtchsr 8/5/12 4:32 PM

Are we talking about the same USAC that walked out a month or so ago on Plymouth ?

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john3g 8/5/12 5:13 PM

there where 17 cars in the pits and there where 3 teams in the parking lot and there was 3 teams that called in when they where 30 minutes out and turned around. How many stayed home or turned around without the track knowing they where headed their way? The bottom line is this ..the Plymouth Speedway must do what they feel is best for their operation. period. They have to focus on what goes on in their back yard. Knowing their plans for next year I believe this is the only decision they could have made. But you have a choice and I for one am happy your going to a race no matter if its Michigan or Indiana. At least your going somewhere! If you live close to Hartford then you should without another thought support hem. I hope that Hartford is a success because the rumor mill has not been positive in regards to next year. So a good showing would be huge for them. So go where you feel its the best for you and enjoy the races.

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koolaid89 8/5/12 5:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john3g (Post 295612)
there where 17 cars in the pits and there where 3 teams in the parking lot and there was 3 teams that called in when they where 30 minutes out and turned around. How many stayed home or turned around without the track knowing they where headed their way? The bottom line is this ..the Plymouth Speedway must do what they feel is best for their operation. period. They have to focus on what goes on in their back yard. Knowing their plans for next year I believe this is the only decision they could have made. But you have a choice and I for one am happy your going to a race no matter if its Michigan or Indiana. At least your going somewhere! If you live close to Hartford then you should without another thought support hem. I hope that Hartford is a success because the rumor mill has not been positive in regards to next year. So a good showing would be huge for them. So go where you feel its the best for you and enjoy the races.

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Aside from a extra week of promotion, what's the hurry in running against the same cars 90 minutes up the road?

minisprint47 8/5/12 6:36 PM

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Are the 600 mini sprints sidewinders or uprights??? Couple of us from ohio want to come and run but we have uprights????

koolaid89 8/5/12 6:40 PM

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Sidewinders according to this thread... https://www.indianaopenwheel.com/showthread.php?t=61687

Someone please correct me if that's not accurate...

BrentTFunk 8/5/12 6:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john3g (Post 295612)
there where 17 cars in the pits and there where 3 teams in the parking lot and there was 3 teams that called in when they where 30 minutes out and turned around. How many stayed home or turned around without the track knowing they where headed their way? The bottom line is this ..the Plymouth Speedway must do what they feel is best for their operation. period. They have to focus on what goes on in their back yard. Knowing their plans for next year I believe this is the only decision they could have made. But you have a choice and I for one am happy your going to a race no matter if its Michigan or Indiana. At least your going somewhere! If you live close to Hartford then you should without another thought support hem. I hope that Hartford is a success because the rumor mill has not been positive in regards to next year. So a good showing would be huge for them. So go where you feel its the best for you and enjoy the races.

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How do you have so much imformation? I haven't heard from you in a while. Did those guys from Montpeliar ever get paid?

1121 8/6/12 12:14 AM

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I'll be surprised if the Hartford /Plymouth choice affects more then three or four cars either way. Most of the MTS guys don't want to run the big halfs any way. And I don't blame them. Most of those guys (remember, we run with them from time to time) don't want to chance breaking their only motor just to say they ran USAC. As far as the pay, I believe USAC pays $400 to start for a non-member. I believe somebody stated that USAC pays as much to start as MTS does to win. Although we have never won a MTS race, I'm pretty sure they pay more then $400 to win.
We will be making a choice for this weekend, but not the one you would think. PDP Racing will be pulling into South Bend Motor Speedway to run with the HOSS series. When was the last time you heard of three sprint car races with in a hour of South Bend! I must be in heaven!

Tom Paterson

racerX 8/6/12 8:10 AM

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I believe they reason Ed Kennedy took this Saturday Aug 11th for a rain date is the following weekend is the SOD show with Tony Stewart. I have also heard they are planning on making the track wider for the SOD race on the front. Also this will give them time to prepare for the Earl Gearte classic on Sept 1st that Joe Gaerte and Ed Kennedy is putting on in memory of Joe's dad. Plymouth has there season championship this Friday Aug 10 with USAC Ignite midgets. Also see that Ernie irvan and Davey Hamilton is going to be there for a Meet and Greet autograph session. I just hope Plymouth goes all dirt for 2013. And from the looks from the Pits i would say there is alot of support. Sure miss the old Warsaw track but Plymouth will for sure take it's place.

snoopy 8/6/12 9:09 AM

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With the .25 midgets just up the road, the date looks like a good choice. A lot of people will be there wanting to go somewhere.

racerX 8/6/12 9:47 AM

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Your right this will be good for the .25 familys to go to just 20 min down the road.

sfracer55 8/6/12 10:03 AM

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Thanks to all that are responding. I'm glad there is a lot of passion for this sport.

Someone said that it may affect a few sprint cars and it may also affect a few UMP mods running for points at Hartford. We certainly appreciated the support we got from the Hartford Mods Saturday.

Chris, there is no disrespect from Plymouth to Hartford and we wish for their USAC show to be a success (as I stated earlier). The sprints that were planning on running Hartford aren't going to suddently come to Plymouth, and that also includes the fans.

I want to remind everyone that UMP Mods will be racing for $1000 to win and nonwing minisprints for $750.

Let's stop the criticism too that the track is too small. It's a 1/5 mile with plenty of room for passing. Everyone knows it's a 1/5 mile. Please don't be shocked when you get to the track and see a 1/5 mile dirt track.

If you have questions about rules, please email the track.

Again, hope to see everyone return.

Eric Smith 8/6/12 10:18 AM

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I'm coming this Saturday and next Saturday. Can't wait.

koolaid89 8/6/12 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sfracer55 (Post 295739)
Let's stop the criticism too that the track is too small. It's a 1/5 mile with plenty of room for passing. Everyone knows it's a 1/5 mile. Please don't be shocked when you get to the track and see a 1/5 mile dirt track.

I was at the inaugural show and it's definitely doable... Especially if you guys can figure out a way to equalize the top lane to encourage guys to move up top... Two solid grooves at least...

racerX 8/6/12 1:14 PM

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Hear they are moving the front out like the back. I was there to watch the 600's the night USAC pulled out and they had a wide track.

amiller24m 8/8/12 9:59 AM

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This may be an ignorant question but I haven't been able to find an answer, but I will coming through Saturday 8/11, is their a tire rule for the nw sprints? If it works timing wise, I just might have to stop in and let er eat, thanks.

racerX 8/8/12 10:04 AM

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Looks like it is going to be an awesome day saturday. High in the mid 70's and sunny. Hope everyone passes the word about this saturday's show. To show the owner we want a dirt track back in northern Indiana, The place is very clean, Great Food (try the tenderloins) and the restrooms are very clean. Now if they could but together a littles TRI Track sprint series with Gas City, Kokomo and Plymouth for Sprints that would be great!!

Shawn Harper 8/8/12 10:32 AM

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I hope they go to all dirt on the big track next year. It would be great to see a good car count, but in order to do this i'm thinking the payout has to be better than some of the locals are paying. $2000 to win and $200 to start would really raise some interest from sprint teams. Just my opinion! It would be nice to have two tracks within 45 minutes of me. Good Luck Plymouth Speedway! :32:

sfracer55 8/8/12 12:27 PM

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TIRES:
-Front & left rear are open tire.
-Hoosier DT3 & HT2 will be the only tires allowed on the right rear

martinfan 8/8/12 8:59 PM

Re: Plymouth Speedway $2000 win Aug 11
 
This will not be a MTS race, this is for all nw 410 sprints

Joltin Joe 8/9/12 6:05 PM

What is the full payout per spot?.... Will it be close to the same as it was when we ran there earlier in the year?

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sfracer55 8/9/12 10:07 PM

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I took this off the website. I hope to have a perfect answer before Saturday but I don't control this so this would be minimum payout below. Again, it won't go down any. 16 start the feature. $100 tow money.

Dirt Payout
Non Wing Sprints UMP Mods
1. $2000.00
2. $800.00
3. $700.00
4. $600.00
5. $500.00
6. $400.00
7. $350.00
8. $300.00
9. $250.00
10. $200.00 - Out

Dirtfan 8/9/12 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentTFunk (Post 295634)
How do you have so much imformation? I haven't heard from you in a while. Did those guys from Montpeliar ever get paid?

Good point BTF,isn't this the same guy that was promoting what was it,scora a few years ago?:15::18:

hoosier race fan 8/9/12 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 296246)
Good point BTF,isn't this the same guy that was promoting what was it,scora a few years ago?:15::18:

ASCT (American Sprint Car Tour). Went to their shows at Montpelier and Shadyhill. Both were good but needed more cars.

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Almost forgot there was a midget division (AMCT?) also. They had a decent number of cars for the midgets at Montpelier, which has probably been a contributing factor to Montpelier's decision to try to run their open midget class this season.

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racerX 8/10/12 8:25 AM

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The track is promoted by Ed Kennedy from Texas. He has been around racing his whole life. He ran Nascar Modifieds for alot of years in the Northeast. Then runs Daytona every year in the ARCA race. He is the owner of the Daytona Lagoon Waterpark, Speed Park, and the Board Walk in Daytona Beach Fla. Along with Andretti's indoor karting in Atlanta. So he knows the entertainment business. and what nights work best that people go out. I just hope people will support the track so we can have a track close to Warsaw and South Bend.

Mud Packer 8/10/12 8:38 AM

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Not trying to start anything here, but I am confusued with so many people providing information. Can someone tell me who these people really are and what duties they perform for Plymouth Speedway?

Racechaser

SFracer55

Martinfan

John3g

Most tracks have one spokesperson and they provide the information needed. It seems to me that Plymouth has all of these people providing information and I don't know really who or what to believe.

If you are going to be successful, I would suggest you limit the number of people providing information on the board to just that one person.

nathans1012 8/11/12 2:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mud Packer (Post 296285)
Not trying to start anything here, but I am confusued with so many people providing information. Can someone tell me who these people really are and what duties they perform for Plymouth Speedway?

Racechaser

SFracer55

Martinfan

John3g

Most tracks have one spokesperson and they provide the information needed. It seems to me that Plymouth has all of these people providing information and I don't know really who or what to believe.

If you are going to be successful, I would suggest you limit the number of people providing information on the board to just that one person.

I believe Racechaser is actually "Irish Saunders". Spoke to him a couple of weeks ago.

sfracer55 8/11/12 11:11 AM

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Mudpacker,
me, being SFRacer 55, is Matthew Schwartz race director of the Bull Ring. Pit Steward Fri nights and director Saturday.

Martinfan is our FB administrator as well as track worker (jack of all trades at the track). Robert Burton is his name.

John3g is John Gurley and volunteers helping out where he can at the track.

If you have any questions or concerns, call me at 219-851-1892. We hide nothing and wish to have a great show today!

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There has been NO RAIN in Plymouth today and none yesterday. We are racing tonight as weather looks awesome. We are watering track right now. It will be tacky and fast.


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