Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

Hey folks,

Highlights of the MSCS Sprint Car Series are up on my website on the "Video Clips" page at http://www.millsvideoproductions.com/VideoClips.html.

This clip is brought to you by the good folks at www.fatheadz.com.
Thanks to Rico Elmore and Tom Aguilar for their help in getting us to Haubstadt from Speedway in an expeditious manner.

You can view the clip directly at this address as well: http://www.millsvideoproductions.com...0Haubstadt.wmv

Thanks for helping Mills Video Productions reach a record number of hits in the month of May 2008. I am glad that people are enjoying the clips we provide. Sincerely,

Dean Mills
Mills Video Productions

Re: Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

:applaud:Thanks Dean for a great clip as always. That was a great
run Hunter made.:respect:

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Thanks Dean great clip as usual and a nice midweek fix can not wait for round three at Tri-State speedway.

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Originally Posted by aussiemidgetfan:
Why isn't this kid kicking butt on the national championship? I've only ever seen one drive like this, and that was Garry Brazier driving from 6th in the C-Main in the 2007 NSW Sprintcar Championship to win the A (on a night when 62 cars showed)! That was phenomenal

Ahh...Braze...

While hanging with my mate Jamie Cobby I got a chance to get to know young Garry Brazier. One amazingly gifted race car driver for sure. Attacked a racetrack like not many I have ever seen. Unfortunately, his lone downside was that rather large chip on his shoulder, which led him into trouble a lot. I remember seeing him banned from the All-Stars "for life" during the Bert Emick regime. On video anyway...

He's a driver that could have ruled the world if he wanted to. Stateside, as well as Down Under. Alas, he threw it all away. Anytime I hear that he has resurfaced again, I am glad because it reminds you of, "what if...", but then he usually reminds you why he is viewed as such a pariah in the world of sprint car racing shortly thereafter.

Garry Brazier; the Austalian version of Randy Tiner. Two supremely talented race car drivers who simply "do not play well with others".

DM - "Poor soul. You were just too high strung...It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear". - Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday, 'Tombstone'

Re: Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

Originally Posted by Millsvideo:
I remember seeing him banned from the All-Stars "for life" during the Bert Emick regime. On video anyway...

I remember seeing the highlights of that race on the old Speedweek program on ESPN. He came after Kenny Jacobs on the track at KC Raceway?:confused:

Re: Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

been to haubstadt about a dozen times and each time has been great!

Re: Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

Originally Posted by Millsvideo:
Hey folks,

Highlights of the MSCS Sprint Car Series are up on my website on the "Video Clips" page at http://www.millsvideoproductions.com/VideoClips.html.

This clip is brought to you by the good folks at www.fatheadz.com.
Thanks to Rico Elmore and Tom Aguilar for their help in getting us to Haubstadt from Speedway in an expeditious manner.

You can view the clip directly at this address as well: http://www.millsvideoproductions.com...0Haubstadt.wmv

Thanks for helping Mills Video Productions reach a record number of hits in the month of May 2008. I am glad that people are enjoying the clips we provide. Sincerely,

Dean Mills
Mills Video Productions

Thanks Dean and Co.

Hunters run is living proof a team can turn it around in a night and why USAC needs a C main. I'd of paid to see that run alone.

Would have made the race and was in the area but with other people with other plans :(
Chuck

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
Thanks Dean and Co.

Hunters run is living proof a team can turn it around in a night and why USAC needs a C main. I'd of paid to see that run alone.

Would have made the race and was in the area but with other people with other plans :(
Chuck

CHUCK,
YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE.THAT RUN ALONE WAS WORTH THE PRICE OF ADMISSION. :Steer :Steer

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In a USAC format, he likely would have qualified fairly well. And if he had qualified poorly, he still could have propelled through the C and/or B Main, just as he did Sunday night. A bent nerf bar in the heat race made him work this hard on Sunday night - how can that make any more sense than the USAC format?

Did I mention that Daron Clayton likely would have won without passing a car all night, nor qualifying well, had he not had engine trouble?

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True Kirk and not arguing that, Im just saying more racing of a top division is better than less and anything can happen. Yeah he had to pass a lot of inexperienced and sub par equiptment but thats part of the deal and some of those probably found the setup or a advantage by late in the program.

I wasn't there, I seen the video and of course. I've never been anywhere but LBurg :) The man passed no less than 30 cars just to make the feature then passed another 15 in it. Awesome!

Chuck, who's only been to Tri State once and it made a believer out of me then.

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Hunter started on the front row of the C Main and started 17th in the B, so he passed 15 in getting to the feature. Then, he passed 15 more.

It was definitely a great run, and I'm glad I witnessed it, but the very same thing is possible at a USAC race. Everyone would have been saying the same thing had Chris Windom or Brad Kuhn made a big run in the A Main after transferring from the B Main to the A Main, and from the non-qualifier's race before that, in a USAC race earlier this year.

Hunter has definitely looked good the last two races in Walker's car....

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"I've never been anywhere but LBurg". Maybe you should expand your horizions/tracks?

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Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
In a USAC format, he likely would have qualified fairly well. And if he had qualified poorly, he still could have propelled through the C and/or B Main, just as he did Sunday night. A bent nerf bar in the heat race made him work this hard on Sunday night - how can that make any more sense than the USAC format?

Did I mention that Daron Clayton likely would have won without passing a car all night, nor qualifying well, had he not had engine trouble?

KIRK,
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST MSCS.SEEMS TO ME YOU KINDA WANT TO TRY & RUN THEM DOWN NO MATTER WHO IS RUNNING WITH THEM.JMO :confused:

Re: Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

I love the MSCS. And I also recognize the series for what it is. It bothers me when people want to bill the series as a replacement or threat to USAC when it isn't. MSCS has its niche, and I hope they recognize and take advantage of that market...

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Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
Did I mention that Daron Clayton likely would have won without passing a car all night, nor qualifying well, had he not had engine trouble?

Spridge,

I was bummed before the feature started that we would likely see that very scenario with Daron on the front row of the A after starting front row in his heat, too. I had seen that very thing occur a couple of nights before at Gas City when Billy Puterbaugh, Jr. won both his heat and the feature from the front row. Which only makes me appreciate the USAC format more, although I would make some changes, such as getting rid of the rule in which one gets his time back after the semi and abolishing the 32 car format. But, it's still the best format in traditional sprint car racing, even if it has it's flaws.

Also, I understand Daron lost brakes and that is why he slowed. I think if you watch it again, you can clearly see when it happens. I think he was struck by an object that just happened to come off his teammate's car, who Daron was trying to put a lap on. Talk about irony...

DM

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You're exactly right on the formats, Dean. I often realize how much I like the USAC format when I go to a local or MSCS race, although I love those races, too. As you pointed out, that 'get your time back' rule is the only problem. It would be pretty simple to fix with the CRA rule on that, though.

Thanks for the correction on Daron's problems. I thought he was overheating.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
"I've never been anywhere but LBurg". Maybe you should expand your horizions/tracks?

No, Someone said that too me. Actually I've been to about 35 dirt tracks and 3 pavement tracks.
Just a little joke there Dan.

Chuck, who will probably never visit as many as Kirk, Fred and some of the crew.

Re: Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
Thanks for the correction on Daron's problems. I thought he was overheating.

So did I as I saw it live...However, in another thread a poster said he had spoken to Daron and he had indicated he lost brakes and that is what cost him the race...

DM

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The format for the mscs series is just as good as usacs deal if they are at a track they can race on the fast ones will be up front come feature time or on there way there anyway.I will say I do not know why some people try to run down the mscs series because they have done a lot more with the purses for non-wing sprint cars in indiana than usac has ever done and they are supposed to have there headquarters in Indy so until I see usac step up to the plate with some good paying races in Indiana they are now in second place for sanctioning bodies.

Re: Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

Hunter is the man!! He looked awesome! He runs very well at Haubstadt hope he is at Bloomington tonight.

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Originally Posted by Sprint63122:
so until I see usac step up to the plate with some good paying races in Indiana they are now in second place for sanctioning bodies.

Are you kidding me? I have respect for the MSCS, but they are on no way the level of USAC. The tracks put up the purse money, the MSCS just brings cars. Look at last years MSCS standings and see how the guys who hit every race did when they were against USAC? None of the front runners last week were MSCS regulars. MSCS is a great group who provide a great part in a regional area, but in no way do they rival USAC.

Re: Highlights of MSCS Sprints @ Haubstadt - 5/25/08
 

Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
I love the MSCS. And I also recognize the series for what it is. It bothers me when people want to bill the series as a replacement or threat to USAC when it isn't. MSCS has its niche, and I hope they recognize and take advantage of that market...

I don't say it's a replacement or even better. It is bigger car counts and bigger purses with for the most part more racing per show.

Im no longer calling for a complete USAC revamp but a dumping of the NCQ adding a couple cars to existing heats when it's up to 8 cars over 32 and the addition of another heat if it's 9-20 cars over isn't asking for much and everybody gets paid something.

Chuck, who also seen Dustin morgan dust the field from the tail in a heat at Burg last fall and seen Ballou win from about a sixth or seventh starting spot. The florence MSCS race was not for a big purse but still had awesome racing.

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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk:
Are you kidding me? I have respect for the MSCS, but they are on no way the level of USAC. The tracks put up the purse money, the MSCS just brings cars. Look at last years MSCS standings and see how the guys who hit every race did when they were against USAC? None of the front runners last week were MSCS regulars. MSCS is a great group who provide a great part in a regional area, but in no way do they rival USAC.

Then why at the first race at Terre Haute first of may this year all drivers but the stewart cars and kahne cars plus Hoffman and Kunz cars were there.As for looking at the point standings from last year all you had to do was go to all of the usac dates and you could be in the top ten points, the midget deal is even more of a joke how many teams went to all of the races in 2008.So if they want to call it a national championship for the usac guys used to mean something about 35 years ago now it is very watered down version more lip service than reality these days.

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Originally Posted by Sprint63122:
Then why at the first race at Terre Haute first of may this year all drivers but the stewart cars and kahne cars plus Hoffman and Kunz cars were there.As for looking at the point standings from last year all you had to do was go to all of the usac dates and you could be in the top ten points, the midget deal is even more of a joke how many teams went to all of the races in 2008.So if they want to call it a national championship for the usac guys used to mean something about 35 years ago now it is very watered down version more lip service than reality these days.

Let's see where everybody is this Friday PA or Jacksonville. I notice you don't say your name or where your from. Probably another internet racefan. I have nothing against the MSCS, but they are what they are. A good series that brings non wing racing to places that do not always see it. Terre Haute probably saw USAC guys tuning up for the Hulman Classic. In fact the top 2 were USAC guys not MSCS guys. I'll bet you any amount of money they will not be a Jacksonville. Just so you know I hope Jacksonville has great show,good car and crowd turnout.

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I am in central IL. we have no track in this area that can hold a candle to Tri-State been going there for over twenty years now nothing else is close to this place.Been going to Terre Haute for fifteen years and made it to Kokomo and Kamp last year and waiting to visit Lawrenceburg this year.Last year I noticed a lot of the teams starting to run the mscs races is all, I just think if usac is so much better than why do they have so long between the dirt shows after speedweeks there is nothing until four crown and you can not count Joliet that place is a wizz poor excuse for a racetrack plus the rip off pricing wonder if they have learned anything yet could be a good place if they would do some checking out of the above mentioned places.Little Springfield is where I first started to watch sprints and since Joe passed away in 1987 this state has not even come close to having a place or quality of shows he used to run there.It is to the race fans benefit to be able to watch these guys run what ever place they like to go and race.

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Im just curious on what makes a driver a USAC driver or an MSCS Driver?? Secondly why does it matter?? There are alot of teams that just want to race and could care less what sanctioning body is there at the track on any given night. Look at a guy like Brady Short- would he be considered a USAC guy because he's in their top 10 in points? Would he be considered an MSCS guy because he's in their top 10 in points as well? Or is he considered a local guy because he has won 4 features at local tracks here in Indiana? He is a true racer doing what he loves to do and I am very thankful that we have race teams like the 36 Team that show their support to as many tracks and series as they can and I know Brady has made alot fans along the way.

My point is why can't we all just be thankful for all of the great race teams that support the local tracks and both USAC and MSCS. As traditional sprint car fans we all have it pretty well here in Indiana. With all of the great racing action we have seen so far this year why can't we just go to a race-make new friends and have a great time cheering on the guys/gals that brought you to the track in the first place. Heck go down to the pits afterwords and shake their hands and thank them for what they do.

Racin Jason Adams-Tour Director and Series Announcer
Midwest Sprint Car Series
www.mscssprints.com
racinjasonadams@yahoo.com
812-390-3110

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Jason as I said earlier, I think alot of your organization. There are 2 things I really like. The influx of new talent that you help create, and the new fans you expose to non wing racing. What I was responding to was his statement that you guys have replaced USAC as the top series. I don't think anyone from your series would claim that. Keep up the good work, and I will continue to attend your shows, and enjoy them.
As for the comment above about the lack of dirt races after sprintweek, I would say that is because of the number of midget races on the schedule, including Indiana Midget Week.