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RACER99W 5/23/12 10:25 AM

Math,PURSE CUTTING
 
Not wanting to bash promoters but,
But cutting a purse $100.00 on the top because there is not 20 cars is not were to do it .
You saved $100.00 I went home and told people it was cut.
By the other 4 cars not being there you did not get 30.00 per car times three people = $360.00 but you did not have to pay them $150.00 times 4 cars = $600.00. you still saved $240.00 and IF you had paid the extra $100.00 you would haved still saved $140.00 and not had bad Advertisement,And more cars would come knowing you are going to pay a full purse. We cannot tow to a track and not know what the payout will be by how many cars will be there. We know you are out on a limb but we also have bills to pay.

kcarm92 5/23/12 2:45 PM

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this is really a pet peve of mine, if you as a promotor please post a over 20 car count payout and a 20 and below payout, really not that hard to do that way before i go to your track i have something to base my decision on,also i have never seen a promotor at the drivers meeting say we have 40 cars tonight im going to raise the payout, only when they have less cars thats when they cut it, jmo i think maybe kokomo couple years back they had a lower car count and promotor told the drivers thanks for comming and took the left over purse and added it to the feature payout for the 12-14 guys that supported him

Dave Rudisell 5/23/12 2:56 PM

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Not sure who you are talking about in your situation, but to label promoters is wrong. I know i have never ever cut any purse in any class, and i never will. I know there are some crooked people out there that do this and its wrong. I also know there are alot of promoters who don't cut purses. I always pay what i say i am going to and i also don't hide the payout. Thanks and please don't label all promoters in your situation.
Thanks and have a great weekend of racing. Dave

Hotshoe65s 5/23/12 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kcarm92 (Post 281661)
this is really a pet peve of mine, if you as a promotor please post a over 20 car count payout and a 20 and below payout, really not that hard to do that way before i go to your track i have something to base my decision on,also i have never seen a promotor at the drivers meeting say we have 40 cars tonight im going to raise the payout, only when they have less cars thats when they cut it, jmo i think maybe kokomo couple years back they had a lower car count and promotor told the drivers thanks for comming and took the left over purse and added it to the feature payout for the 12-14 guys that supported him

I agree. I will give LPS credit, a couple years ago they had nearly 40 bombers. They decided to run two features instead of the one, and they paid full purse for each. I thought that was a class act. But I do believe all payouts should be posted and always upheld.

kcarm92 5/23/12 3:38 PM

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thanks dave for posting your payout , by the way what do the mods pay monday at the burg wanting to bring our cars over

Dave Rudisell 5/23/12 3:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kcarm92 (Post 281669)
thanks dave for posting your payout , by the way what do the mods pay monday at the burg wanting to bring our cars over

Thanks, Mods are paying$1000 to win $125 to start, and $2.50 for everything in between, just kidding. :5:

Rpracing1 5/23/12 4:09 PM

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Somewhat on these same lines, I have seen on more than a few occasions at TSS where there may just be 2 or 3 guys that would not make the feature, Helfrich stepped up to the plate and said no consi was required and all cars will start feature. It cost him money to do this, maybe that is why they are called "The Class Track". JMO

TQ29m 5/23/12 4:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RACER99W (Post 281596)
Not wanting to bash promoters but,
But cutting a purse $100.00 on the top because there is not 20 cars is not were to do it .
You saved $100.00 I went home and told people it was cut.
By the other 4 cars not being there you did not get 30.00 per car times three people = $360.00 but you did not have to pay them $150.00 times 4 cars = $600.00. you still saved $240.00 and IF you had paid the extra $100.00 you would haved still saved $140.00 and not had bad Advertisement,And more cars would come knowing you are going to pay a full purse. We cannot tow to a track and not know what the payout will be by how many cars will be there. We know you are out on a limb but we also have bills to pay.

I guess it'd be nice to know who has your feathers all ruffled up, to just post a "general" bash, that isn't supposed to bash promoters, or certain race tracks, sounds like something you might have mumbled to yourself, in the bathroom, if it's stuck in your craw, let it out man, you're gonna choke to death! Bob!:deadhorse:

treecitytornado 5/23/12 5:05 PM

Korey is referring to how Clay County Speedway is doing their Sprint Car purse this season. It does make it tough if you are traveling a distance to the track and still not know what you are running for. Great race track, nice facility though without a doubt!

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grinch 5/23/12 5:35 PM

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well let me add to this post.......several years ago i got the chance to go to the promotors workshop in las veags....started racing in 1956 never got to go to one before....was fairly interesting with the guest speakers and such BUT when they got to the place where they asked promoters to tell what they do at their tracks to make more money........i couldn`t believe what i was hearing.....99% of the schemes they developed were totally against the racer.......the secretary of the group i was signed in on had to drag me from the room......wish we had a racers workshop!!

Dave Rudisell 5/23/12 9:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rpracing1 (Post 281675)
Somewhat on these same lines, I have seen on more than a few occasions at TSS where there may just be 2 or 3 guys that would not make the feature, Helfrich stepped up to the plate and said no consi was required and all cars will start feature. It cost him money to do this, maybe that is why they are called "The Class Track". JMO

Thats great, thats what i have been doing for years, if we only have 23 or so cars we start them all, it cost more, but in the end i think the racers like it. and it saves time and wear and tear on the cars. :8:

wingedsprint47 5/24/12 12:38 AM

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When the promotor advertises what the purse is going to be he needs to stick with it. Might as well not even advertise a certain purse if it is dependant on the car count. It gets more and more expensive every year to fund a sprint car operation. Every little bit helps. I know the promotors have a tough job and are trying everything they can to make a profit or at least break even, but us racers have bills to pay to keep going. When promotors start pissing off the racers, the racers will quit showing up. When the car counts start to go down because of this, the fans will quit coming out.

Charles Nungester 5/24/12 5:13 PM

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Seriously, I can see the guys complaint and NO it shouldn't blanket promotors.

But i got the car ready, Track A says they are paying 800 if 20 cars.

Track B pays 800 no matter how many cars?


Im supposed to leave and just wish/pray 19 others show up?


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