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Bad Dad 54 5/6/12 3:24 PM

Chevy Volt
 
:deadhorse: While back there were some post about the Chevy Volt and an article in our locak paper tells a different story. A local person I know who is a number cruncher say's his Volt averages 120 MPG. When he charges the battery his cost figures were $15 to $20. Drving only on gas he gets 45mpg. Said he would recomend the car to anyone. Sure the other Hybrids are cheaper but the Volts mpg is higher by 15mpg. Plus the Fed's are giving a tax break for the Volt of $7500. The catching fire problem due to not following directions in case of an accident. If I was in the market for a new car I'd certainly look at this option. But more than likely I'd buy another Impala. Love the one we have now. Just sharing info:D

Tony Barhorst 5/6/12 3:52 PM

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I like the way the car looks...The tax break and plans for the car were presented in 2007. The fire deal has been blown way out of proportion by those that hate the idea...I mean like a gas powered car CAN'T catch fire...or hasn't?....

The car isn't for everyone...right now the car goes 40 miles on the battery..about what it takes for a daily work commute..

The car if used on electric runs on American coal generated electric...

Bill Gardner 5/6/12 4:02 PM

This topic has a tendency to turn into something political.

I'm personally sick and tired of seeing anything politically related so just use this as a friendly reminder about not posting political related opinions.

Thanks.

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Tony Barhorst 5/6/12 4:13 PM

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I look forward to seeing the USAC electric midget in action down the road somewhere...The car is not a threat to traditional racing...but it will be interesting to see it progress.

TQ29m 5/6/12 4:22 PM

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I sure hope this doesn't come out political, but I found it interesting last week, when Ford used their electric, as a pace car, with all those extra lights, I'm sure it was maxed out, but I also didn't know what the pace speed was, but, surprisingly it made it thru the night, which honestly, was quite surprising, I don't think an electric is for me, but there appears to be a market for them, it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out, there's a lot of fossil fuel could be bought, for the payments on one. Bob!:)

I Miss Manzy 5/6/12 5:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner (Post 279239)
This topic has a tendency to turn into something political.

I'm personally sick and tired of seeing anything politically related so just use this as a friendly reminder about not posting political related opinions.

Thanks.

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Thank you,Bill!! :8:

gary curry 5/6/12 6:49 PM

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I'm not particularily interested in an electric car, (my Mystique still gets 'tween 32 and 35 mpg) but I would be interested in a pick up that would be capable of pulling my 28 ft 5th wheel about 400 miles a day on one charge. Right now I have a big old V10, (which I love) but it has yet to meet a gas station that it doesn't like. Does anybody have an idea as if they are even working on something like this, and would it be affordable if there is one?

Bad Dad 54 5/6/12 8:35 PM

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Ok Bill, like it says Non wing racing forum:15:

Jonr 5/7/12 8:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gary curry (Post 279268)
I'm not particularily interested in an electric car, (my Mystique still gets 'tween 32 and 35 mpg) but I would be interested in a pick up that would be capable of pulling my 28 ft 5th wheel about 400 miles a day on one charge. Right now I have a big old V10, (which I love) but it has yet to meet a gas station that it doesn't like. Does anybody have an idea as if they are even working on something like this, and would it be affordable if there is one?

I know that GM is using/developing hybrid technology for almost all vehicles that they manufacture. It is badged as eAssist.

I have not heard of an electric truck but that does not mean it is not on the drawing board. IMO, I wonder if the battery technology is advanced enough for a truck. Even the batteries for the eAssist are pretty large.

TQ29m 5/7/12 9:05 AM

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Think how big they'd have to be, to fly a 747 from New York, to La, in Ca! Can you say "I don't think so"!Bob:5:

767 5/7/12 9:24 AM

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The car is still way over priced in my opinion. IF I am spending over 30,000 on a vehicle it is going to be a truck. I looked at the sticker on one, not sure if the car was maxed out, but the number was over 37,000.

HARFprez 5/7/12 9:26 AM

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I solved the worlds problems and have mounted a giant windmill on top of my suv. Getting it started is a problem (always park on a downhill street) but once that baby is runnin' ya can't stop her, creates it's own power (as long as you never stop and run at 54 mph at all times). The only other drawback I've found so far is low bridges, so plan your trips accordingly. My apologies since this is about windmills maybe i should have posted it in the "winged" section, sorry. As Rush says, once they get a 747 with battery power, then we'll talk. bob.

DAD 5/7/12 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner (Post 279239)
This topic has a tendency to turn into something political.

I'm personally sick and tired of seeing anything politically related so just use this as a friendly reminder about not posting political related opinions.

Thanks.

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Didn't the Russians experiment with a car like this in the early fifty's, they called it the Volga. I think it was even built by "THE" GM also? If the price of gasoline would "somehow" go down we would not be having this discussion now. Electric cars are close but not ready for prime time. Ask yourself will electricity be cheaper when the EPA closes down all the dirty old midwest coal generating power plants? I guess I got more con's than pro's right now.

Honest Dad himself:6::6::5:

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Originally Posted by Tony Barhorst (Post 279241)
I look forward to seeing the USAC electric midget in action down the road somewhere...The car is not a threat to traditional racing...but it will be interesting to see it progress.

Racing has almost always been on the cutting edge of automotive technology. Let's start there and see where it leads us, remember the car of tomorrow the Chrysler turbine. Did not work out.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Charles Nungester 5/7/12 11:42 AM

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Im with Bill, Close the thread.

cecil98 5/7/12 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 279389)
Im with Bill, Close the thread.

Chuck, If I run across a thread that I have no interest in or, makes me uncomfortable, I can just skip right over it. That's the beauty of the mouse you have in your hand! I don't see anyone getting ugly on this thread to date........why call for it to be shut down????? Just move on. Right??

Revolution Racing 5/7/12 12:23 PM

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"Steps along the path" people....

Our energy future depends on 'all of the above'. There is very little evidence to support a way forward any time soon on electric vehicles hauling big loads - you probably won't see electric semis or even car haulers but you will see more commuter vehicles and thats great. The energy needed to charge those vehicles wil come less and less from coal fired plants and more and more from natural gas fired plants along with solar and wind - our rapidly improving energy grid will make this more economical as well. And all of THAT is good...

Long haul trucks, load bearing vehicles and rural applications will start using more natural gas to replace diesel - and THAT is good. The overall effect will be a reduction in our usage of crude oil, and no matter what your ******** are, that is also a very good idea.

Of course there are 'issues' related to all this progress. Fracking, lead-acid batteries, etc., all present challenges. We will meet those challenges, we'll lead the world in solving them, and we'll create good paying jobs for American workers in the process.

Happy monday!
:32:

DAD 5/7/12 1:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revolution Racing (Post 279393)
"Steps along the path" people....

Our energy future depends on 'all of the above'. There is very little evidence to support a way forward any time soon on electric vehicles hauling big loads - you probably won't see electric semis or even car haulers but you will see more commuter vehicles and thats great. The energy needed to charge those vehicles wil come less and less from coal fired plants and more and more from natural gas fired plants along with solar and wind - our rapidly improving energy grid will make this more economical as well. And all of THAT is good...

Long haul trucks, load bearing vehicles and rural applications will start using more natural gas to replace diesel - and THAT is good. The overall effect will be a reduction in our usage of crude oil, and no matter what your ******** are, that is also a very good idea.

Of course there are 'issues' related to all this progress. Fracking, lead-acid batteries, etc., all present challenges. We will meet those challenges, we'll lead the world in solving them, and we'll create good paying jobs for American workers in the process.

Happy monday!
:32:


We traded our 11 pound lead acid battery for a 1 1/2 pound lithum battery, that is some progress. I live in a coal state and we still have a lot of that stuff left over, "waste not want not". It is also used to make methanol, strange isn't it. Does clean coal have any hope in the future, because it's still cheaper than any of the above. We started an atomic energy plant in Southern Indiana about 30 years ago, The inspectors found so many things wrong with it the power company threw up it's arms and converted it to coal and charged us for the time and money they lost. The company did not loose any money they just passed the extra cost along to the consumer, that's me.

Why can't we leave these new ideas up to the inventors when they make an improvements on anything we will know it and switch over. People without ideas go to work for somebody else and make regulations that others can't keep up with. True inventors like (Revolution Racing) work for themselves and try to find something they can sell to the rest of us to make our lives better.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

racer-x 5/7/12 1:18 PM

Re: Chevy Volt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAD (Post 279401)
We traded our 11 pound lead acid battery for a 1 1/2 pound lithum battery, that is some progress. I live in a coal state and we still have a lot of that stuff left over, "waste not want not". It is also used to make methanol, strange isn't it. theDoes clean coal have any hope in future, because it's still cheaper than any of the above. We started an atomic energy plant in Southern Indiana about 30 years ago, The inspectors found so many things wrong with it the power company threw up it's arms and converted it to coal and charged us for the time and money they lost. The company did not loose any money they just passed the extra cost along to the consumer, that's me.

Why can't we leave these new ideas up to the inventors when they make an improvements on anything we will know it and switch over. People without ideas go to work for somebody else and make regulations that others can't keep up with. True inventors like (Revolution Racing) work for themselves and try to find something they can sell to the rest of us to make our lives better.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

The cost of getting rid of coal should send a shiver up everyones back:7: The cost of alternitive energy is never talked about is it?. The volt sounds like a good happy idea until you think it out. I pulled up next to a volt the other day and thought it looked nice, and wasnt even sure what it was till i saw the name on the back..

Charles Nungester 5/7/12 2:08 PM

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Oh, Im for alternative energy (That makes sense) Such as LPG powered cars or even Hydrogen.

Id personally love a reasonably priced electric Motorcycle good for 1.5-3hrs ride for work and back or store jaunts
I just didn't want to go political.

Its a racing board. Thats All i meant.

767 5/7/12 2:31 PM

Re: Chevy Volt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Revolution Racing (Post 279393)
"Steps along the path" people....

Our energy future depends on 'all of the above'. There is very little evidence to support a way forward any time soon on electric vehicles hauling big loads - you probably won't see electric semis or even car haulers but you will see more commuter vehicles and thats great. The energy needed to charge those vehicles wil come less and less from coal fired plants and more and more from natural gas fired plants along with solar and wind - our rapidly improving energy grid will make this more economical as well. And all of THAT is good...

Long haul trucks, load bearing vehicles and rural applications will start using more natural gas to replace diesel - and THAT is good. The overall effect will be a reduction in our usage of crude oil, and no matter what your ******** are, that is also a very good idea.

Of course there are 'issues' related to all this progress. Fracking, lead-acid batteries, etc., all present challenges. We will meet those challenges, we'll lead the world in solving them, and we'll create good paying jobs for American workers in the process.

Happy monday!
:32:

Where does natural gas come from.....lol.

DAD 5/7/12 2:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 279409)
Oh, Im for alternative energy (That makes sense) Such as LPG powered cars or even Hydrogen.

Id personally love a reasonably priced electric Motorcycle good for 1.5-3hrs ride for work and back or store jaunts
I just didn't want to go political.

Its a racing board. Thats All i meant.

If it's got wheels and moves somebody will race it, and they will make it better and faster. Then some day I might buy one. I'm still looking for "Segway racing" the ultimate open wheel race vehicle.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Bad Dad 54 5/7/12 8:58 PM

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Don Quiyote (?) rides again

HARFprez 5/8/12 8:56 AM

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I think these tiny cars would be fine for trips around the neighborhood and to the store, but not distance or highway use. My fear is that once a few families in these tiny cars have a disagreement with a semi or dump truck and the worst happens, people will take a second look and compare safety with saving gas (ie the pinto bomb). Way to many factors up in the air so far to make any 100% conclusions, but for me, i'll stick with 17 mpg and have some room to stretch out and be comfy, jmho, bob:22:

Tony Barhorst 5/8/12 3:03 PM

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Looks like the dawning of "The Jetsons Era... Hovering and color changing cars....Seriously though..the US companies need to stay up with new tech..otherwise they could end up in China's dust.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1499501.html

ByronMack 5/8/12 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARFprez (Post 279534)
I think these tiny cars would be fine for trips around the neighborhood and to the store, but not distance or highway use. My fear is that once a few families in these tiny cars have a disagreement with a semi or dump truck and the worst happens, people will take a second look and compare safety with saving gas (ie the pinto bomb). Way to many factors up in the air so far to make any 100% conclusions, but for me, i'll stick with 17 mpg and have some room to stretch out and be comfy, jmho, bob:22:

I agree with u on the tiny cars, there is a man in the town i live in that has one of those micro cars and he drives it on hway 37 all the time, no way would I even think of getting in one of these. The volt on the other hand is not a tiny car, it's a medium size sedan isn't it.

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Seadog 5/8/12 4:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HARFprez (Post 279534)
I think these tiny cars would be fine for trips around the neighborhood and to the store, but not distance or highway use. My fear is that once a few families in these tiny cars have a disagreement with a semi or dump truck and the worst happens, people will take a second look and compare safety with saving gas (ie the pinto bomb). Way to many factors up in the air so far to make any 100% conclusions, but for me, i'll stick with 17 mpg and have some room to stretch out and be comfy, jmho, bob:22:

Would you rather drive a tiny car on the highway or a motorcycle? I'll take the tiny car. JMO.

DAD 5/8/12 5:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seadog (Post 279605)
Would you rather drive a tiny car on the highway or a motorcycle? I'll take the tiny car. JMO.

I think the people in Washington went to China and saw a bunch of people rideing on Bicycles, That is what they want us to be riding around on. In the old days people kept trying to keep up with the Jones's now it's the Chinese.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Jonr 5/8/12 9:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ByronMack (Post 279604)
I agree with u on the tiny cars, there is a man in the town i live in that has one of those micro cars and he drives it on hway 37 all the time, no way would I even think of getting in one of these. The volt on the other hand is not a tiny car, it's a medium size sedan isn't it.

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Yes, the Volt is a medium sized car. It is somewhere between a Malibu and a Cruze.

Bad Dad 54 5/8/12 9:32 PM

Re: Chevy Volt
 
I'll stck w/ an Impala I had a pimple car years a go - never again. Scary in a rain storm, decent in snow, windy? you can change lanes & not move the steering wheel. Hit anything above a small dog your totalled. Not safe enough for me:6:


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