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Incentives sound pretty good to me. I'm sure sombody won't like it.

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And this is what the complaining will be about.
"Participation requires an active USAC team membership and participation in USACs voluntary loyalty incentive clause."

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This should fix all the folks problem of not enought money being paid. Great move USAC!

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What this means is you will no longer see the top 10 -12 USAC teams/drivers at any local races. To be eligible requires 100% participation in USAC National Sprint Car events only. USAC can grant permission for a team/driver to run local by request and remain eligible.

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More money for the teams is a good thing.

I wonder if this has anything to do with another promoter talking about running silver crown races?

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Is this what this means, or does it mean that you have to compete in 100% of all USAC sprint car events. I see it more as a move to eliminate drivers picking and chosing events. (BC and others running Belleville Midget nationals instead of the USAC scheduled race in Nebraska)

I would think that it would not impact dates that USAC does not have a sanction race date on.

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It means just what it says. See the part named "Loyalty Incentive."
Run a local show without permission and you are out of the tow money, 5 free pit passes etc. You have to run 100% of their races and no where else without permission to get these benefits.

BTW, I am not complaining. I don't plan on running for USAC points or traveling with them, so it only helps me since we won't have to run against those guys every week.

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In my opinion, this should allow for some new blood to rise to the top at the local bullrings. It will take away some of the top dogs but allow others to shine and show what they are made of. Both pros and cons, so it will be interesting to see who does what.

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But you don't really know that until they iron out the legal mumbo jumbo because.....

Sprint Car point fund is NOT a Driver's point fund - it is an OWNER's point fund....unless that has changed this year. The drivers are rewarded through the National Drivers fund which combines points from Sprint, Midget & Champ.

So what's to prevent Damion, BC, DD, and others from running a backup car adding an "x", a "y" or a "z" to their number and hitting a local show, technically they have signed in as a different car? Technically the 71 is still loyal to USAC, but the 71X is deemed a "local" car. Or.......any of those drivers strapping into someone else's car for the weekend? Or.......selling their backup car for $1.00 to their crew chief for one day only so that they aren't technically the owner of that car?

If the point fund isn't tied to a driver how do you determine who owes you the loyalty? The driver or the car owner? And if the car owner doesn't "own" that car for the day then how do you prove that they were being unloyal?

Lot of grey there.....and if you have a good enough lawyer there's a loophole to everything. I'm not complaining, just think it's too soon to say it's definitely one way or the other, and I don't think I can see USAC saying you have to run 100% us and nowhere else - I doubt they'll shut out the weekly tracks that run on off nights of their schedule. I would imagine it's something more similar to their current clause that if there is a USAC show scheduled and you choose to go somewhere else you forfeit all incentives - but I could be wrong. I just think that would be a quick way to make their local tracks they partner with very unhappy.....and those 10-12 guys would have been there without an incentive for all except for one race (Belleville)

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Think there will be a lot of Luke Warmwaters out there???????

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..theres nothing in this press release about tow money or pit passes ect...where did you get all your information?

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Great idea....pay the teams not to race. Heh, it works for the Dept of Agriculture. Win Win for everyone. Maybe they wiil pay the fans not to watch.

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You called that one right. :19:

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USAC Competition meeting. Nothing set in stone, but those are things that were discussed as possibilities.

Vukie
Didn't say I didn't like it and I am absolutely not complaining because it doesn't affect me directly, in fact it will help.

Mudpacker
That is exactly how I am looking at it.

I'm done.

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thank you gofast.....the money part is great for the racers,rewarding the guys financially who help USACstay the premier non wing sprint car division is admirable

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I am not complaining but there could be pros and cons if you can not race at local tracks. Maybe they should at least allow each driver to have so many chances to run some local races if it does not interfere with USAC shows. You have to set the field fair and give every driver the same amount of passes to race the local shows.

The only problem I can see is the smaller teams that may know they are not top ten material may just say the heck with USAC and run the local tracks if the big names wont be there. This could possibly hurt the fields instead of help USAC. I would like to see all the drivers in the top 20 get something for staying loyal to the USAC races.

I hope this works out for both the local tracks and USAC. This could give some smaller local teams a chance to win at the local tracks.

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Say it ain't so....

USAC would restrict their top ten from performing at the tracks and in front of the fans that made them the top ten???

That would be a serious case of making yourself taller by standing on the shoulders of who got you there.

Make racers more money....by making them buy a backup car to race when USAC isn't??? Really??? Show me that business model.

I hope this isn't the way things will be.

i.e.I am from the government and I am here to help.


For all of you who say USAC is now bringing the big bucks and this should attract more cars and drivers.....who was paying more for non-wing in the past than USAC???? The guys that want the big money are already there.

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sounds like a bad idea to me especially if this is similar to what WoO is doing. Indiana non wing racing is all about running every night you possibly can against all the big name drivers. Thats what makes you a better driver. Im not saying that the local guys are not good but you step your game up when people like dd show up to race. Hopefully they decide to let the guys still be able to race when they want and where they want as long as they run all the usac shows they get the incentive.

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I'm expecting the rule to be the same for the car owners as it is for the drivers, which really doesn't restrict a whole lot. If it is a full restriction, however, there is going to be problems (of course as someone stated earlier, there are lots of loopholes around that). I just don't see a full restriction. The point fund and incentives are a great start. The outlaws can impose restrictions a lot better, because for one their nightly purse and amount of huge money shows, not to mention gigantic point fund, but also the amount of travel and the amount of races they run are enough to satisfy.

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Looks like we are talking before the facts are out. So far this winter I have heard that Bloomington is changing hands,Paragon is for sale and or closing,Lawrencburg is going to a bull ring size, and Steve Kinzer is running for president! The only fact I know for sure is Feb 2 is groundhog day!
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How exactly does a track or the fans put you in the top ten in points?I guess I've been mistaken all these years as I always thought it was your finishes throughout the season that put you in the top ten in points.When did all this change?:5:

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This announcement we made was to assure our car owners knew the stakes were being raised this year for our National Sprint Car Championship. While we are working out the final details prior to the official announcement, I will assure you we work very closely with promoters of USAC events across the country and make all decisions with their best interests at hand.

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I'm hoping to cook out a groundhog on Feb. 2 this year. :5:

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Suppose it's a rule where a USAC points driver can only race a sprint car at a non-USAC event at a track that is has a USAC sprint car date. Would that perhaps be a small reason why Granite City suddenly has a USAC sprint show? Seeing as they run 3 nights of unsanctioned sprints with the Gold Crown? Whatever the rule is, I can assure you that the USAC midget drivers will be able to jump in sprint car at the Gold Crown without hurting their standing with the USAC sprint division.

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What does this mean for the no way out 40???

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Maybe if everyone waits till they announce the full details and everything is worked out, all the rumors and speculation can be avoided. Mr Miller posted they are working on the final aspects now. Just a thought or let the rumors fly LOL. I had a hundred people ask me about this program at the trade show, and a hundred different answers and opinions. So, let's let USAC get it all worked out before we get all worked up about it.

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I agree with the above post that we need to wait for the details before jumping to conclusions. However, there is no doubt that the WOO does a better job of protecting thier brand name than USAC does. Any direction of USAC to protect thier brand name is a good thing.

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Kinda curious why there was a "press release" about this when the rules/guidelines are still not known... Season starts in less then 10 days boys..

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Casey, my guess if that they're just throwing a trial balloon out there to see what general sentiment will be for such a thing. Either to fine tune what the policy might be or to see what kind of objections they're going to have to deal with, when the real thing is rolled out.

Jerry

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Trail Balloon?

Hey, Im all for the teams and drivers being able to make more money. I don't know what the rules will be.

Id be pretty darn upset at USAC if they didn't let drivers and teams drive at USAC participating tracks on a NON-USAC events night.

Again, I don't know whats coming out of it and I kinda agree with Casey, Why release anything until somethings in writing?

You can make more $$$ but the rules aren't made up yet?

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What the hell fun would that be. It is a lot more fun making stuff up and adding our own little rules to it. But I agree with you, in time all the questions will be answered.

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Adding a layer of rules/regulations to racers/raceteams about what they do in thier personal lives when not competing at a club event cannot be a good thing for anyone but a "chosen few". I don't need to wait for this pie to bake to know what it will taste like.

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i just think that usac dose not want the no way out 40 to have all the great drivers to race this event and that when twin cities have a race during speed week they got mad.:deadhorse: and this year they will hold the no way out 40 at a non usac track and that usac should give twin cities a race on there schedule to make it fun for all the great racing fans :9: thanks to all of the great folks at twin cities to make the no way out 40 a great racing event :22:

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why wait till the season is only days away to announce this......to run a whole schedule takes planning!:11::11:

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Several of the USAC drivers won't be at this race since they will be participating in a USAC midget race in North Carolina that weekend.

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A really great nidea. It sure worked well in the 60s. And back then only the berst ran shows at great tracks like Reading. Us local PA. guys could sometimes get Temorary Permits so long as we were URC card carrying drivers.
It all can work out well if there are still enough real racers around!!!!