Any changes for Lincoln park in 2012?
 

Well it's a new year, so I was just wondering if any big changes were coming to LPS.
I have a bit of a wish list I'd like to see happen.
1. Move the front stretch wall back to the stands. Get rid of that grassy area. This would keep guys from diamonding 4 and creating a giant ledge that launches you straight in the wall.

2. Raise the payoff from 2nd through 15th. The payoff to start and to win each class is pretty good and about the same or better than other tracks. But 19 guys don't win each night. So by only raising what it pays to win only one person benefits. If it paid more in the middle then 19 people would have more money to come back next week instead of just 1.

3. I'm pretty sure this is already gonna happen, but they definelty need raceceivers. Need to stop making hundreds of laps under caution trying to get in line.

4. It would be a longshot but it would be great if they could install the stuff to use transponders. Then everyone could qualify while they hot laps. It would also help the scorers.

5. Lastly please post payout for weekly shows and specials on website for everyone to see, that way a blue million people don't ask on here and other sites.

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I like it! Hope these things happen too!

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You know what, Spiker basically took a track out of the trash can, invested a ton of his own money in making improvements and has turned it into one of the most successful weekly programs in the state. What he's doing is working. The car counts are big, the racing is great and he's earned the right to run the place as he sees fit. If you don't like the way he runs the track, it's a free country. You can always go run someplace else.

Jerry

Jerry I think you took the post the wrong way. It's just simply a wish list, like a kid would give his parents for Christmas. I didn't mean for anything to sound negative. The only bad thing I said was no need to make hundreds of caution laps, and anyone whose raced there knows it needs help. I went to Lps almost every week last year and know its a great place to go, but a guy can always talk with his buddies about things he'd like to see happen.

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My preference is to qualify but that probably won't happen so I'd like to see passing points awarded from the heat races and those points lineup feature rather than a straight up heat race finish.

I like the system the USMTS uses for passing points.
http://www.usmts.com/Documents/usmts...calculator.pdf

I think it gives a guy starting in the back of a heat race, who races his butt off just to get a transfer spot a better chance to improve a starting spot for the feature.

As a driver I would like the passing points too, but it's just too complicated for fans to understand. Fans need to be able to think "well he finished here so that means he made the show". Having transfer spots also let's fans enjoy heat race battles for last transfer spot.

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Too complicated? I thought an announcers job was to inform the fans. ;):D

I guess that would work at Lps, announcer does a good job. And they could also pass out a points system sheet to the fans like the one on the usmts site.

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You would think that would be the case. However, they offer more misiformation at times than they do information.:15:

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Mike, I know what your saying but my thoughts are if your not doing a good job, then you don't have a job. ;)

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Dustin,

Maybe I didn't see the intent of your post. I'm just so used to seeing that no matter what these tracks do, there is usually somebody there to find fault with it. We're lucky. Our local track has a guy putting money into it, to improve the facility and make the racing better. We know LPS is going to be around for years to come. A lot of fans at other tracks aren't so sure about the future of their place.

Jerry

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How about just making it multi groove in the heats like it usually is in the feature?

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The things that I seen the times i've been there is way to many caution laps, seems like only one guy lining up cars. 2nd is take a long time clearing up a wreck if driver walks away hook and pull, other than that an offical can help the wrecker guys speed things up. When a sprint spins have a 4 wheeler to turn them around then push it off with push truck, last keep the concession stands open. Second to last race I was there they were closed up before intermission. Great racing other than that

I think the things you mentioned can be said for pretty much all the tracks. I like LPS now, I used to hate it. But raceivers is a must...most tracks have them now, and they speed up the entire program. Transponders aren't needed if you have a few GOOD scorers. Payout, in my opinion, is never balanced enough. Always top heavy. The wall being moved back isn't the issue...just make the wall taller. LPS is definitely much better than a few years ago, but you can always make things better. Never stop improving...it only makes everything better.

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I'd say the wall is the problem. That concrete wall has junked 4 or 5 cars that I can think of last year. I don't see how a taller wall would do anything but block the fans view.

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Spiker said on our show a few weeks ago that Racecievers are coming in 2012. Along with work above the gradstand and the track has been reworked coming of turn 4 to make the transition smoother.
Stewart said on our Rumble show that evrybody that likes to bI tch about a track should try running one. It's not opening the gates, racing and closing the gates. I takes a lot of work everywhere other that just the track surface top make a racetrack go. A lot of people do a lot of different things.
The Spiker's and crew have done a lot in a short time and look for more to come.
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I just don't get the raceivers crap, if they can't get a message to a man on the track with a chalk board how are they gonna get to all the cars on the track. The chalk board always worked fine at Haubstadt or anywhere else I raced, its still takes a scorer to know the line up.

Still just something else a driver/owner has to buy to race.

As for the track itself I like it. Nothings ever gonna be perfect.

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Due to the number of sanctioning bodies and tracks around the country that have already gone to the raceiver system, it is pretty obvious that it is a preferred and more efficient operating system.

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Putnamville isn't a part of any other "sanctioning bodies" around the country, its a local track running a weekly racing program for the local and low budget racers.

What about all the other classes running? Should they all run em too? Whats the point of just the sprints running them? Their race is usually the most organized race anyway.

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I understood from Joe on the show that it's an all class deal for racecievers. More and more are going to them weekly and special event tracks.
Only so many numbers fit on a board and normally hard to read too.
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Maybe the raceivers are for the drivers who can't read, the chalk board will still be needed for those who can't hear. I am sure there will be a few who have problems with both.

I have enjoyed the times I've ran at Lincoln Park the last few seasons!
For the most part, other than the curb off of turn 4, the track has been as good as I've ever seen it! It has had good moisture and you can pass! That's what I like!

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I thought it was a guardrail. My mistake. And maybe not taller wall, but move the catch fence up to the wall. That space there is asking for trouble when a sprinter gets airborne. You never know what could happen.

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How about one ways for the sprints and for the cars with transmissions just stop them on the backstretch and send them out in the correct order rather than make a dozen slow laps? Lead car comes around and stops in the first turn until everyone is lined up behind him. Then GO!

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if you dont stay with ur wreck it gets pulled to infield like in the farrar days when i worked there:6: