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Without sounding like I'm trying to cause trouble, I'm curious why the "kokomo klash" paid $125 less to run 4th, then it does to run 4th on a standard pay Sunday night?
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Only a guess Casey, but did the winner receive more, so the rest of the field receives less? BTW good run last night, first time in that car?

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If you were there lastnight why didn't you ask them. :10:

I didn't go get the payout last night, the owner did or I would have. : )
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Besides the entry fee, I heard they were charging a $20 transponder fee too! They didn't do that earlier this year. Just one more thing with the payout through the field being worse other than the $190 to start rather than the standard $155. Good question Casey,but we probably will never hear a real answer for it.
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Where did you finish last night J.T. ?

Don't be a wiseacre, I didn't go for the reasons that are stated. I knew what everyone else was complaining about ahead of time and decided not to. Hope that's ok with you lol.
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If JT Sapp spent as much time preparing and racing, as he does whining on the internet, we might be as impressed with him, as he is with himself.

Well Brent I feel honored that you always look for my posts on here. Guess that's how exciting your life is! I think its comical to see how you react. Especially since you have all the answers! Have a great off-season, what will you do with yourself?
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I will probably sit at home like you do, and wait to see what you whine about next. Don't send me a pm, I don't care. Thanks for highjacking another thread Mr. Sapp.

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For as long as I can remember these late season "specials" have always been called promoter benefit races. Don't know why they would change it up now.

You started this one Brent. I don't hold anything against you. I know you have fun at this,just like I do. Everyone is entitiled to their opinion and just because you don't agree with mine, there is no need to call me out by name. Maybe you should start calling out everyone that said they agreed with me on other posts!

J.T. Stapp
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Casey, It looks like they put the money on the top (very similiar as in 2010) and then increased the bottom half.

As a racer, If I look at the sprint car payout by itself, I can see where some would question the difference, but if I look at the entire nightly payout, it actually looked pretty decent. I think Kokomo tried to make this a special event for all classes not just one. They probably tried balancing the payouts between classes. Of course, that's just a guess.

Finish	2011 Kokomo Klash	2011 Regular Show	Difference	Finish	2010 Kokomo Klash	2010 Regular Show	Difference
1	$2,011	$1,400	$611	1	$2,010	$1,400	$610
2	$1,000	$875	$125	2	$1,000	$875	$125
3	$700	$700	$0	3	$700	$700	$0
4	$500	$625	-$125	4	$500	$625	-$125
5	$400	$500	-$100	5	$400	$500	-$100
6	$350	$400	-$50	6	$350	$400	-$50
7	$300	$325	-$25	7	$300	$325	-$25
8	$250	$275	-$25	8	$250	$275	-$25
9	$245	$250	-$5	9	$225	$250	-$25
10	$240	$230	$10	10	$200	$230	-$30
11	$235	$220	$15	11	$195	$220	-$25
12	$230	$210	$20	12	$190	$210	-$20
13	$225	$200	$25	13	$185	$200	-$15
14	$220	$190	$30	14	$180	$190	-$10
15	$215	$180	$35	15	$175	$180	-$5
16	$210	$175	$35	16	$170	$175	-$5
17	$205	$170	$35	17	$165	$170	-$5
18	$200	$165	$35	18	$160	$165	-$5
19	$195	$160	$35	19	$155	$160	-$5
20	$190	$155	$35	20	$150	$155	-$5

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Usually just sit on the sidelines and read but after the past week I have to ask the toronado a question. Why the problem with everyting Kokomo related? It seems you would be happy with your home track adding Sunday night sprints to the schedule to compete with Kokomo's schedule. But that doesn't seem to be good enough, you just have to pile on anything Kokomo speedway does. You were not there this weekend so why should this thread concern you. Kokomo will race next year, whether you come over to race will be entirely up to you. If you come, good luck. If you decide not to, find another track to trash on here. It gets very old.

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:22:I offered to give them JT entry if they wouldn't let him in.And by the the way J.T. i do know what everything cost and do take care of the finances for our race team.If you have anything to say to me please feel free to call me anytime.I am not hard to reach.:8::8::8::8::8:

Brian Cripe

I not trying to cause a big issue, and I'm sure somewhere it was posted before this weekend, it just amazes me that a bigger, or "special" show, with the biggest car count (40?), with a entry fee etc etc, can pay less the a normal Sunday night, no entry show with 24 cars in the pits. I've seen a lot of times it pay more to win, and standard purse for the rest of the field, but less just seems shady to me. It is what it is, on to the next one..
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Again plowboy, it wasn't just me, if you go back through the postings on my thread. Brian you can call me anytime too.

Thanks to all for their opinions. That's what this site is for.

Have a good off-season and holidays.

I'm working on my Bachelors degree now, so that's what I will be doing.
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...and Mr. Tornado, you can quit sending me pm's too. ;)

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Shu, the full payout was advertised. If you didn't take time to check it out you've got no one to blame. :22:

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I think your answer might be at the top.

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I don't know that I'd consider the Klash a "big show" atleast for the payout nor do I know that that is the intent of the track. It's a end of the year show that is open to a lot of classes that don't get the luxury of racing Kokomo on a weekly basis that the race teams have absolutely flocked to, and I believe it's because the O'Connors run a excellent program at a fantastic facility NOT because of there monstrous pay out.
It's a nice modest ADVERTISED payout IMO.

Koolaid, if u read my post, I said, I'm sure is what advertised somewhere, never said it wasn't, and no, I didn't look, I had no plan to even race there till early that week. I would consider a $2000 to win race with a entry a "special" event, and just was curious what the logic is to pay more to win, more to start, charge a entry, but then pay less in the middle then u do on a regular Sunday night show. I said earlier, been to plenty of races that pay more to win, and a standard payout for the balance of the field, which is fine, just confused on the reasoning. I like kokomo, I like the oconners, and I would think they made out pretty good this weekend.
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I agree Casey. 100%. It's funny how others think bad of you when you ask a question. I think it's the only way we get answers.
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You should try asking the question directly with the track owner/promoter. They have the information that you desire so it would only seem logical to start there. Posting on IOW probably won't get you the answer you are looking for, if indeed you are looking for an anwer. Threads like this only start arguments and seldom get the desired results that you are always looking for.

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Please don't under estimate the power of the internet. I've been following this thread and it seems that the topic is one that really stretches farther than the Kokomo race. I welcome questions like what has been posed on this thread for discussion. The payout structure at the Kokomo race probably is not something new and really applies to other races also. Topics such as this are good for racing. For you people that can't deal with it, don't read it. Real simple. One thing for sure people.... Every promoter in the country pays attention to what is discussed on the web. You are living in a cave if you think otherwise.

I asked because I know Jill Oconner had posted and responded on her several times, and thought it would be a simple way to a response to a pretty simple, legitimate question. obviously my question was way out of line lol. I can't help but think if certain fans showed up to the klash, had to pay for parking, the pork chop was $1 more, and beers were $2 more, this message board would be lit up like the 4th of July. Anyways, sorry for stirring the pot here, I know you guys all probly have some really important topics to argue about on some other thread : ) : )
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I'm wondering if Bill Gardner would consider starting another racing web site. Lately it seems that if anyone has a question about the world of racing they are trashed immediately and the Dr. Phil wannabes show up in mass. I'm thinking it could be called www.indianaafraidtoask.com. It would be staffed 24/7 with behavioral scientists with advanced degrees, hopefully from places like Harvard or Yale. They would be equiped with the latest technological means to connect IOWheelers directly to any track promoter/representative in the country. No need to discuss topics such as dusty tracks, car counts etc. These guys would allow you to make a direct connection to any racing official in the country within seconds.

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I was taught that the only "dumb question" was the one not asked. "Read everything befor doing anything"----DAD

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My ownership of a website staffed with behavioral scientists who are Harvard and Yale graduates?

I'm sure I'd have to ask can you dumb it down for me. :D

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sorry wrong don

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Casey, I don't know if I will talk to anyone from the track, but if I do I will pass on your question.

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I can't imagine racing anywhere without knowing what the pay is, even if it's just the to start and to win amounts unless money isn't really an issue which I don't think is the case with very many of us.

Just seems like a given to me especially if you're gonna come on here instead of doing the legwork before hand.

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Try the Chili Bowl.

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Well to have 342 cars show up over one weekend the track must be doing something right. Also if you add the Sprint purse up for the klash and a regular show you would see the difference of $716 which was added to the total purse of the Klash

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While it's great that they added money to the total sprint purse, that's an awesome deal, and glad they do it. The drivers and owners definitely deserve it, especially for putting on an awesome show at Kokomo week in and week out.

The question isn't about improved payout, the question is they increased the winners share, and the start money, but dropped some in the middle.

So essentially, the guys that run at the back normally got a better payout, and the guy winning the race, but some others took less money for still doing a darn good job in the race.

I don't have a dog in the fight so it doesn't matter to me, but I really hate to see someone work their butt off for fourth, in a "special show", that it cost more to get into than a weekly race, but yet pay less than the weekly show.