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Jonr 8/5/11 6:43 PM

belleville updates?
 
Anyone doing updates? Car counts?

ossuks 8/5/11 8:55 PM

Re: belleville updates?
 
:19:reaaly, nothing, nobody ?

jerrydt 8/5/11 8:56 PM

Re: belleville updates?
 
Nobody at Belleville?

Jerry Shaw 8/5/11 9:19 PM

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Updates are few and far between, but I see Mario Clouser broke the track record, followed by Larson, CJ Johnson, Kuhn and Loyet. Whether that's complete or not, I don't know.

Jerry

Drtchsr 8/5/11 10:03 PM

24 midgets, Loyet,Hagan,Larson, Coons won heats.
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racefan1 8/5/11 10:13 PM

Re: belleville updates?
 
From Daum Motorsports(Twitter):

Feature lineup

67-6
05-45x
71-17b
3mz-11
4-39
9-3
12jr-12s
96-71k
44-5d
91-19
11h-2g
11c-98
69

ossuks 8/5/11 10:34 PM

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What a pathetic showing of cars!! Looks like the elimination of USAC was a bad move by the fairboard at Beelville. Those of you there enjoy this one, because there is a good chance that next year will be a Late Model race!

Pine 8/5/11 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ossuks:
What a pathetic showing of cars!! Looks like the elimination of USAC was a bad move by the fairboard at Beelville. Those of you there enjoy this one, because

(...there is a good chance that next year will be a Late Model race!..)

GOOD, I always wanted to get to Belleville....

ossuks 8/5/11 11:04 PM

Re: belleville updates?
 
1/2 way larson loyrt kuhn coon

tjcain58 8/5/11 11:05 PM

Re: belleville updates?
 

Originally Posted by ossuks:
What a pathetic showing of cars!! Looks like the elimination of USAC was a bad move by the fairboard at Beelville. Those of you there enjoy this one, because there is a good chance that next year will be a Late Model race!

I doubt it since they run latemodels 3 other times during the year and get maybe 25 cars each time. Even when they had the WoO latemodels they didn't get a huge car count

ossuks 8/5/11 11:38 PM

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Late Model purse (not woo) is 30% of what they pay now. The fair board knows that its fair week in the middle of Absolutely No Where, Kansas. People are coming to the races even if they run those cruisers.

Jerry Shaw 8/5/11 11:46 PM

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I saw this victory lane photo of Kyle Larson but didn't see a finishing order after that.

http://c0013894.cdn1.cloudfiles.rack...com/x2_791b89d

Fred Zirzow 8/5/11 11:56 PM

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By Bryan Gapinski

Belleville, Kan., Aug. 5---Eighteen-year old Kyle Larson continued his brilliant season capturing the 25-lap feature, Friday Night on the opening night for the 34th annual RevHoney Belleville Midget Nationals. It marked the Elk Grove, California’s drivers first ever appearance at the track.

Larson jumped into the lead at the start, from the pole position. Two cautions during the first seven laps kept the field grouped together. Jerry Coons Jr. passed Brad Loyet for second place on Lap 8, while Larson increased his lead each lap.

Coons running second, retired with engine problems on Lap 13, one lap later the caution appeared for another stopped car. Brad Kuhn took over second place on the restart, while a heated battle waged for positions two-five. Larson appeared headed for an easy victory when Danny Sheridan stopped with a flat tire, with four laps remaining.

On the restart Larson was flawless, while Kuhn ran second, defending winner Bryan Clauson moved into third place, and challenged Kuhn for the runner-up position. Larson driving the Keith Kunz owned Bullet-Toyota No. 71 finished 1.8 seconds ahead of Kuhn, Clauson, Loyet, and Caleb Armstrong.

Zach Daum who started in 18th position finished sixth, followed by Mario Clouser who earlier in the night during qualifications lowered the track record to 17.497 seconds, breaking Cole Whitt’s two-year old record. Dalton Armstrong, Bobby East, and C.J. Johnson completed the top ten. “This event has so much history, its great to score a victory here” commented Larson afterwards.



SUMMARY

Qualifications: 1. Mario Clouser, MCM#06-17.497(NTR); 2. C.J. Johnson, Johnson#45-17.568; 3. Kyle Larson, Kunz#67-17.589; 4. Brad Kuhn, RWB#17-17.737; 5. Don Droud Jr., Smith#44-17.782; 6. Brad Loyet, Loyet#05- 17.784; 7. Caleb Armstrong, Kunz#71-17.803; 8. Bobby East, Klatt#4-17.807; 9. Dave Darland, Wilke-PAK#11-17.829; 10. Jerry Coons Jr., Lendich#3nz-17.917; 11. Bryan Clauson, Tucker-BCI-Curb-Agajanian-17.954; 12. Levi Roberts, Nine Racing#9-17.986; 13. Danny Sheridan, Allen#12s-18.000; 14. Josh Pelkey, Allen#12jr-18.018; 15. Zach Daum, Daum#5d-18.084; 16. Darren Hagen, RFMS#3-18.154; 17. Cody Brewer, Brewer#96-18.155; 18. Jeff Stasa, Stasa#91-18.219; 19. Dalton Armstrong, Kunz#71k-18.291; 20. Patrick Stasa, Stasa#19-18.459; 21. Terry Goodwin, Goodwin#2-18.554; 22. Chet Gehrke, Mattson#11c-18.586; 23. Todd Plemons, Minarik#98-18.702; 24. Garrett Hood, Hood#11h-18.991; 25. Randy Boyer, Boyer#69-20.799.



8-lap Heat Race#1: Loyet, Brewer, Clouser, Sheridan, Droud, Hood, Boyer.

8-lap Heat Race#2: Hagen, Roberts, Darland, Kuhn, P. Stasa, Plemons.

8-lap Heat Race#3: Larson, Clauson, D. Armstrong, East, Daum Gehrke.

8-lap Heat Race#4: Coons, C. Armstrong, Pelkey, Johnson, J. Stasa, Goodwin.



20-lap Feature: 1. Kyle Larson; 2. Brad Kuhn; 3. Bryan Clauson; 4. Brad Loyet; 5. Caleb Armstrong; 6. Zach Daum; 7. Mario Clouser; 8. Dalton Armstrong; 9. Bobby East; 10. C.J. Johnson; 11. Don Droud Jr.; 12. Levi Roberts; 13. Danny Sheridan; 14. Cody Brewer; 15. Garrett Hood; 16. Jeff Stasa; 17. Terry Goodwin; 18. Josh Pelkey; 19. Jerry Coons Jr.; 20. Randy Boyer; 21. Dave Darland; 22. Darren Hagen; 23. Chet Gehrke; 24. Patrick Stasa; 25. Todd Plemons.

Feature Lap Leaders: Larson 1-25.

wolfpack58 8/6/11 12:35 AM

Re: belleville updates?
 
No surprise in this finish,as we saw at midget week Larsen+Kunz+Toyota= damn fast.:9::8::8:

hoosierfan 8/6/11 2:47 AM

Originally Posted by wolfpack58:
No surprise in this finish,as we saw at midget week Larsen+Kunz+Toyota= damn fast.:9::8::8:

Larson + any car = fast the kid is impressive
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LocalYokel 8/6/11 3:26 AM

Where's the big names? I guess they're ride-less or have other prioritys, but is weird not seeing Darland, Hines, ect, not in the results for Belleville.

I realize that car counts are down across the board in regards to midget racing, but it seems like Belleville is going to need to bring back USAC for the race to continue sucessfully. USAC whether you like them or not would bring out the guys running for points, and that would add some names and some cars. Just being objective...

It is really cool though to see these young kids not being intimidated by a giant track like Belleville. A NTR for Clouser is very impressive, and the win by Larson his first time on the track is pretty amazing.
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Jerry Shaw 8/6/11 3:30 AM

Re: belleville updates?
 

Originally Posted by LocalYokel:
Where's the big names? I guess they're ride-less or have other prioritys, but is weird not seeing Darland, Hines, ect, not in the results for Belleville.

I realize that car counts are down across the board in regards to midget racing, but it seems like Belleville is going to need to bring back USAC for the race to continue sucessfully. USAC whether you like them or not would bring out the guys running for points, and that would add some names and some cars. Just being objective...
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Darland was there, in the Wilke-Pak #11.

LocalYokel 8/6/11 3:32 AM

Originally Posted by Jerry Shaw:
Darland was there, in the Wilke-Pak #11.

Whoops didn't see his name buried in there...

Btw its cool to see Droud getting a good run in too!
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midgetmaniac 8/6/11 6:48 AM

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The "KID" is very good . They do not need USAC back in there ,they screwed it up. Lets put PowerI in there and you will have 40+ cars. You would have some USAC drivers and 30-35 powerI cars there. Every powerI show that I have been to this yr has had 30+ cars.

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Originally Posted by LocalYokel:
Where's the big names? I guess they're ride-less or have other prioritys, but is weird not seeing Darland, Hines, ect, not in the results for Belleville.

I realize that car counts are down across the board in regards to midget racing, but it seems like Belleville is going to need to bring back USAC for the race to continue sucessfully. USAC whether you like them or not would bring out the guys running for points, and that would add some names and some cars. Just being objective...

It is really cool though to see these young kids not being intimidated by a giant track like Belleville. A NTR for Clouser is very impressive, and the win by Larson his first time on the track is pretty amazing.
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Can you get any bigger names in midgets than Clauson & Kuhn?

Jonr 8/6/11 8:07 AM

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Disappointed with the car count. The solution is that the nationals needs both POWRi and USAC.

While many of the big names, made the trip not all of them did. With USAC sanctioning the two sprint car races in Iowa and having the sanction at Dodge City, the odds are good that the "summer midwest tour" will grow more next year. It is very possible the one night at Lincoln could turn into two nights. Or at the very least, USAC going to another track on Saturday night. This would make it even more difficult for the USAC drivers to cross over.

The last POWRi race that was held only had 22 cars (Sunday night at US36) The car count was helped by many cross over teams. (Clausen, Coons, Kuntz three cars) Of the top 10 POWRi cars in point only 3 of them are at Belleville.

The midget week of money has changed. It used to start the weekend before Belleville and would have several midweek shows with Belleville being the last event. This year it was four days straight last weekend. It started on Thursday and they raced straight through to Sunday night. Changing of the money week also is hurting the car count.

This is sort of like the Angell Park/Badger deal. They need each other to be great. It my opinion, Belleville need to have USAC and POWRi to be great.

racegal 8/6/11 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Shaw:
Darland was there, in the Wilke-Pak #11.

Blew motor lap 12 I think. :13:

Thyfault925 8/6/11 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonr:
Disappointed with the car count. The solution is that the nationals needs both POWRi and USAC.

While many of the big names, made the trip not all of them did. With USAC sanctioning the two sprint car races in Iowa and having the sanction at Dodge City, the odds are good that the "summer midwest tour" will grow more next year. It is very possible the one night at Lincoln could turn into two nights. Or at the very least, USAC going to another track on Saturday night. This would make it even more difficult for the USAC drivers to cross over.

The last POWRi race that was held only had 22 cars (Sunday night at US36) The car count was helped by many cross over teams. (Clausen, Coons, Kuntz three cars) Of the top 10 POWRi cars in point only 3 of them are at Belleville.

The midget week of money has changed. It used to start the weekend before Belleville and would have several midweek shows with Belleville being the last event. This year it was four days straight last weekend. It started on Thursday and they raced straight through to Sunday night. Changing of the money week also is hurting the car count.

This is sort of like the Angell Park/Badger deal. They need each other to be great. It my opinion, Belleville need to have USAC and POWRi to be great.

I completely agree with you. Belleville could definitely use one or the other. However, I don't think you will ever see Poweri take on Belleville because Belleville is a motor killer. There's a reason there are only 3 Poweri cars there. None of those guys want to burn through a motor in one weekend. It's too bad that Belleville is fading like this! Still good to see all the big names though.

LocalYokel 8/6/11 8:22 PM

Originally Posted by midgetmaniac:
Can you get any bigger names in midgets than Clauson & Kuhn?

As far as midget racing goes, I guess not. However, Belleville used to be the premier midget event in the country. It'd be great to see guys coming over from different divisions to run at the highbanks.
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racegal 8/6/11 8:37 PM

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Is there another race there tonight? Thanks!

midgetmaniac 8/6/11 9:34 PM

Re: belleville updates?
 

Originally Posted by LocalYokel:
As far as midget racing goes, I guess not. However, Belleville used to be the premier midget event in the country. It'd be great to see guys coming over from different divisions to run at the highbanks.
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I would agree with you that Belleville used to bring some big names that do not run midgets on a regular basis. Their are serveral reasons why it has tailed off. One is that their is SO many more places to run now . Secondly , some other organizations purposely schedule events against Belleville to keep their drivers from competing there. Third , some midget/drivers simply cannot afford to blow their motor on the highbanks knowing that they were going to need that motor to last all year.

Drtchsr 8/6/11 9:40 PM

East wins the dash over Clauson. Larson to start third. The finish was too exciting and I didn't see where the others finished.
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racegal 8/6/11 9:59 PM

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Updates are being done on Dave facebook page.
Does anyone happen to know if the format is passing points or what? Thanks!

Fred Zirzow 8/6/11 11:08 PM

Re: belleville updates?
 
Kyle Larson wins again

nailer 8/6/11 11:12 PM

Any other updates
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racefan20 8/6/11 11:40 PM

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Larson, Coons, Kuhn, East. Only ones left on lead lap. BC blows motor with 1 to go running 3rd

Fred Zirzow 8/7/11 12:03 AM

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“Larson scores brilliant Belleville victory”
Third Belleville win for Car Owner Keith Kunz



By Bryan Gapinski

Belleville, Kan., Aug. 5---Kyle Larson scored a dramatic victory winning the 34th annual RevHoney Belleville Midget Nationals Saturday Night at The Belleville High Banks.

Bryan Clauson trying to win a record third straight victory in the event jumped into the lead at the start, followed by Larson. The pair pulled away from the field, when the caution was displayed on Lap 6, when Mario Clouser stalled. Clauson pulled away from the field again on the restart and held a one second lead over Larson on Lap 10.

Clauson began lapping the tail of the field four laps later increasing his advantage over Larson. Clauson struggled with lapped traffic the next five circuits allowing Larson to pull within a car-length at the midway point.

The pair continued to lap cars, while Clauson maintained his one-car length advantage. On Lap 27 Larson pulled even with Clauson but was unable to make the pass for the lead. Two-time Champion Jerry Coons Jr. who started tenth worked his way through the field and was running third.

With ten laps, remaining the pair lapped up to fifth place. Larson finally made the pass work for the lead passing Clauson exiting Turn Four with six laps remaining. Larson pulled to a five-car advantage and appeared headed for the victory. Seventh place running C. J. Johnson hit the wall entering Turn One and flipped landing outside the track on the final lap. Johnson escaped injury.

The accident set up a one-lap shootout with Larson leading Clauson, Coons, Bobby East and Brad Kuhn. Clauson suffered engine problems coming down for the restart and retired. Larson driving the Keith Kunz Motorsports owned Bullet/Toyota No. 67. was flawless and finished three-car lengths ahead of Coons. East, Kuhn, and Clauson completed the top five. Brad Loyet, Caleb Armstrong, Josh Pelkey, Dalton Armstrong, and Danny Sheridan completed the top ten.

“This is just a fabulous victory, Keith and the crew had the car perfect, I never saw this place before coming here to race Friday” commented Larson, who collected $12,500 for the victory.



SUMMARY

8-lap Heat Race#1: 1. Dalton Armstrong (Kunz#71k); 2. C.J. Johnson (Johnson#45); 3. Levi Roberts (Nine Racing#9); 4. Jeff Stasa (Stasa#91); 5. Cody Brewer (Brewer#96); 6. Patrick Stasa (Stasa#19); 7. Todd Plemons (Minarik#98).



8-lap Heat Race#2: 1. Jerry Coons Jr. (Lendich#3nz); 2. Darren Hagen (RFMS#3); 3. Bryan Clauson (Tucker-BCI-Curb-Agajanian#39); 4. Dave Darland (Wilke-PAK#11); 5. Zach Daum (Daum#5d); 6. Terry Goodwin (Goodwin#2).



8-lap Heat Race#3: 1. Josh Pelkey (Allen#12jr); 2. Caleb Armstrong (Kunz#71); 3. Bobby East, (Klatt#4); 4. Danny Sheridan (Allen#12s); 5. Chet Gehrke (Mattson#11c); 6. Randy Boyer (Boyer#69); 7. Garrett Hood (Hood#11h).



6-lap Dash: 1. Bobby East; 2. Bryan Clauson; 3. Caleb Armstrong; 4. Kyle Larson (Kunz#67); 5. Brad Loyet (Loyet#05); 6. Brad Kuhn (RWB#17); 7. Mario Clouser (MCM#06); 8. C.J. Johnson.



40-lap Feature: 1. Kyle Larson; 2. Jerry Coons Jr.; 3. Bobby East; 4. Brad Kuhn; 5. Bryan Clauson; 6. Brad Loyet; 7. Caleb Armstrong; 8. Josh Pelkey; 9. Dalton Armstrong; 10. Danny Sheridan; 11. Jeff Stasa; 12. Zach Daum; 13. C.J. Johnson; 14. Darren Hagen; 15. Levi Roberts; 16. Terry Goodwin; 17. Dave Darland; 18. Cody Brewer; 19. Todd Plemons; 20. Mario Clouser; 21. Chet Gehrke; 22. Patrick Stasa; 23. Garrett Hood; 24. Ryan Boyer.



Feature Lap Leaders: Clauson 1-33, Larson 34-40.

*Johnson flipped on Lap 39 of feature landing outside of track, uninjured.

Jerry Shaw 8/7/11 12:16 AM

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Kyle Larson is the flat out the best talent to come along in the Midget Division since Bryan Clauson. For the first time, since BC's reign as the World's Best Midget Driver began, I think there is a challenger on the scene that has the potential to be a threat to that title. He'd better eat his Wheaties though, because Clauson's a legendary competitor and as amazing as some of the things are that we've seen him do, I have a feeling that even we haven't see what he's capable of. Either way, the rest of this season is going to be something else to watch. Between those two, the guy that BC replaced at the top Jerry Coons and resurgent drivers Brad Kuhn and Tracy Hines, this fall no doubt will be a historic one.

Jerry

midgetmaniac 8/7/11 1:25 AM

Re: belleville updates?
 

Originally Posted by Jerry Shaw:
Kyle Larson is the flat out the best talent to come along in the Midget Division since Bryan Clauson. For the first time, since BC's reign as the World's Best Midget Driver began, I think there is a challenger on the scene that has the potential to be a threat to that title. He'd better eat his Wheaties though, because Clauson's a legendary competitor and as amazing as some of the things are that we've seen him do, I have a feeling that even we haven't see what he's capable of. Either way, the rest of this season is going to be something else to watch. Between those two, the guy that BC replaced at the top Jerry Coons and resurgent drivers Brad Kuhn and Tracy Hines, this fall no doubt will be a historic one.

Jerry

I will go as far as calling the "KID" the next Jeff Gordon. I have been around racing along time and his talent is undeniable. I look at it as when a young driver is able to beat Clauson ,Kuhn , Coons like he has ,you just have to realize how good the young man is. I would like to take my hat off to KK . He puts together a great car and has an eye for spotting talent. :9::9: Great job Keith!!

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Originally Posted by LocalYokel:
As far as midget racing goes, I guess not. However, Belleville used to be the premier midget event in the country. It'd be great to see guys coming over from different divisions to run at the highbanks.
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Ok , maybe we should have realized that Kyle Larson was a big name too?


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