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And if this has been posted, I two searches with two different key words and nothing came up.



Normally I would post NASCRAP stuff, but this is great.

Loved the Ricky Bobby References. The great part is that his prayer got people talking about church and not in a bad way.

Some after thought articles.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/0...e-nascar-race/

Pastor Defends Calling Wife 'Smokin' Hot' in Prayer Before NASCAR Race
By Colby Hochmuth


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/0...e-nascar-race/

Carl Edwards thoughts about the prayer.

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Amen! :9:

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I thought it was shameful. "Be not deceived. God is not mocked." Prayer is serious business and this was a Saturday Night Live sketch gone bad, IMO.

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I have to agree. From his comments later he said he was just trying to give the fans a prayer to remember, but still. I thought it was not appropriate for a pre race prayer. It came across to me as mocking and not at all what you would expect a pastor to deliver. At no point did he ask for safety for the drivers, crews and fans. If he wanted to add "Boogity" at the end, then whatever, but I just thought he went too far. Other people have their opinion and that is fine, but I just think he concentrated too much on entertaining and not enough, if at all, at genuine prayer to God.

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Man I don:t see a thing wrong with that! He sure got the crowd in to it and the drivers liked it :6:

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IMO was very distasteful and disrespectful. I look at it as a small town, small church preacher who was probably in the national lime light for the first time of his life and took an advantage of it by mocking what he believes in, after all Judas was a follower of Christ. Of all the fans that thought it was cool and funny how many of them will/would actually go and sit in his church or any other on Sunday, very few, all he did was lower himself. It all right to have a little levity in the pulpit but when it comes to a prayer I think there should be a little respect shown just like the singing of the National Athem. As for his "Hot Mama" take a look, I guess it upon the eyes of the beholder. http://www.familybaptistchurchlebanon.org/default.htm

REH

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shameful, but then again considering how often NASCAR destroys the National Anthem during pre-race it doesn't surprise me. IMHO the "pastor" was playing to the fans and trying to make himself a "star"......

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BINGO!!!!!

This is what I think about it, :14::14::14:

:2:

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[QUOTE=REH24;244274]IMO was very distasteful and disrespectful. I look at it as a small town, small church preacher who was probably in the national lime light for the first time of his life and took an advantage of it by mocking what he believes in, after all Judas was a follower of Christ. Of all the fans that thought it was cool and funny how many of them will/would actually go and sit in his church or any other on Sunday, very few, all he did was lower himself. It all right to have a little levity in the pulpit but when it comes to a prayer I think there should be a little respect shown just like the singing of the National Athem. As for his "Hot Mama" take a look, I guess it upon the eyes of the beholder. http://www.familybaptistchurchlebanon.org/default.htm

REH[/QU
Thanks for the link, I checked it out. Maybe he was talking about his girl on the side.

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I think some of you may be taking these comments out of context. Religious circles nowadays encompass much larger demographic areas and are much more forgiving than the old fire and brimstone days.

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Nothing is taken out of context. If anyone would have been killed or maimed in this race everyone would be saying how important a pre-race invocation is, how seriously it should be taken and is not a time to be clowning around, which is what this guy was doing.

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If you think that what some random preacher from Lebanon, TN says to God before a racing event will have any bearing on where souls go should that event turn to tragedy, I would suggest a long, hard look at your own religious beliefs.

Right or wrong, he did it, and we're talking about it, which is precisely what the man intended.

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Not my Department but found this interesting!

Carl Edwards thoughts about the prayer.

Quote:
“I turned to Jack (Roush) after that. I said, ‘If anything happens, I want him to be at my funeral.’ That was one of the best invocations I have ever heard,” Edwards said.

As NASCAR says have at it boys! :44:

Danny 24

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I agree, it looks like his church is on the small side, which means they probably don't stream anything. I wouldn't mind "sitting in" on a service at home here in Indiana just to see what it is like. In any case, what really matters to me is not what he said. As if you are truely praying for the safety of the drivers and everyone, you are saying your own prayer and not just standing there listening to what the guy is saying. What stands out to me is that people are talking about it. If it gets one person to decide to check out Pastor Joe Nelms church or just a church in their area, it is a win.

I need to requote this from my original post.

Christian radio DJ and Author says it pretty good.

http://www.tim-sinclair.com/2011/07/...y-to-pray.html

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What if he used strippers at his church? Or maybe some freaks from a side show? As long as it brings people in and makes tax free money, that is all that matters. Clowns like this are the reason I don't go to church. This is what makes me cynical about religion. I truly wish it didn't, but when these are the people in the forefront, it makes it hard for the good ones to be seen.

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Everything nowadays is much more forgiving these days & I believe that is why the world is going down the toilet. I never had kids because I didn't want them growing up & have to struggle. What is it going to be like when I'm gone. Not going to have to worry about it.

That had to be the best part of the whole race broadcast!
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“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven" Luke 6:37

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I wouldn't let Clowns keep me from church because if there is a here after, which I believe there is, I doubt that will be a good reason for you to enter. I agree there are a bunch of Clowns in anything, churches, associations, work places etc, next race you attend look around and I am sure you will find one but you still enjoy the races. The people who are in position as this preacher is in should be concern about his actions and speech because they are watched like hawks in doing something wrong. I as you "USED" to believe as you and stayed away from church because of this. I found out I missed a lot.

REH

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I believe the easy answer regarding if it was right or wrong is the old saying, "To each their own." Or something like that. Believe what and how you desire.

Religious debtaes rarely end in a good way. I'm a believer, but have very close friends who aren't, and thats ok.

I don't post much anymore as I'm not around racing as much..... but I'd rather get back to debating racing stuff. My age old topic I have debated on here many times...... Lets quit this drawing crap and get back to qualifying!

Someone start that topic and lets argue over that!

Or, lets debate which Nascar driver has the hottest wife! That would stay on topic right? Ha

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I saw nothing wrong with it. Face it religion does not have to be boring or just fire and brimstone. The people that have a problem with this obviously have not been to the south. You Yankees mite want to stay north of the mason dixon line. (that was a joke before anyone gets up tight)

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I to found nothing wrong with it, I am not a JUDGE! Read all about it on WWW.THE BLAZE.com Bob!:)

They shouldn't have invocations before races anyway. If you'd like to pray fine. But religion shouldn't be forced down anyones throats at an auto racing event.
Uhhh... have at it?
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I'd like to think that God has a sense of humor. That's why I didn't mind it at all. If I heard this more than three weeks in a row I think I would grow tired of it in a hurry.

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I'd agree to that, it probably would get old, but then, who knows. I know God has a sense of humor, he has to read some of the comments that appear on here, and chuckle! Bob:5:

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When I was on a mission trip in New Orleans the first time, I went to the Wednesday service at a southern baptist church (also a primarily a black church also). It was awesome, never a slow moment and kept my attention throughout the whole service. Most churches (minus the one I goto at home) are slow and not very energetic.

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Asking you to participate is a lot different than sitting you in a room and rebuking you by force. You can choose too or not to participate.

Some people think the mention of GOD will kill them but when they are down and out, mad, whatever they use it like a zealot.
YMMV

I respect your right not to believe and participate. Why do you get to demand that THE MAJORITY cannot?

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I always looked at praying to a God before a race as being pretty silly.
I see it as just sending good vibes for a clean race. If there is a God I don't think watching over a Sprint Car race is high priority.

If you see a person talking to a God through a hair dryer and that person said the hair dryer is talking back or even listening to the them???? You would seek mental help for that person.

Take away the hair dryer and you now have praying, but nobody thinks you are loony.

People that really believe in religion most likely have never read a good science book. So as far as the "Majority" maybe in the Midwest but not the rest of the world.

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Somehow I had a feeling this wasn't going to have a happy ending! Bob!:):15::29::deadhorse:

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Why? They are entitled to their views.
Chuck

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Hello Moderators.....Off Track Forum???

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It's time to speak up for my Lord & Savior. Our prayers as Chaplains at the racetracks are not intended to be shoving religion down anyone's throat, but to me this is a reminder of how dangerous this sport really is. As a Chaplain for Racers for Christ, I have prayer at the end of the driver's meetings. The drivers are invited to stay if they so desire; and to my delight, almost all of them stay. They know the danger of their sport, and very few walk away from this time of prayer. To listen to prayers before races on the PA system is strictly voluntary on the part of the spectators. The night that Kody Swanson was hurt at Tri-State Speedway was my first night as Chaplain at a racing event. As the fans went home, we (I and another Chaplain) went to the hospital. Kody was very happy to have the prayers and support of family & friends, and we've seen answers to prayer. Believe it or not, it's a fact...prayer makes a difference.

Sincerely,
Phillip L. Hedrick, Chaplain

I believe that the majority of us being adults, we can have a conversation about controversial topics without it getting out of hand. We should respect one anothers view points.
However, if the mods feel the need to move or delete this thread, the I stand behind that decision and respect it.
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I agree with Carl Edwards, I want this guy at my funeral...lol
So the guy has a sense of humor....God gave it to him I suppose. So take it up with God.
(disclaimer: I respect everyone's opinion and do not think anyone here is an idiot, much love).
David.
:)

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I do not attend secular events such as races, ballgames, movies, etc. to be subjected to someone else's religious dogma. Religious belief or non-belief are personal matters best kept in the homes, churches, synagogues, or yes mosques. I will defend anyone's right to their beliefs, but the idea that any one religious philosophy covers all humanity is shortsighted. The real culprit here is NASCAR or the track for using religion as a marketing tool. Nuff said, now back to racin'.