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Gas City Notes
If the 47 car field at Gas City last night is indicative of what is in store for the rest of the year then USAC sprints will have a banner season. Kudos, too, to USAC and Jiggs for pushing back the 2nd modified B Main to get the sprint car feature on the track. Having the feature over at 10:25 after not starting the first heat until 8:05 showed great effort on the part of both USAC and Jiggs to keep the show moving. Two weeks in a row now we have seen a great charge from the back in the feature. Last week it was Steve Ott coming from 16th to 2nd. Last night Dave Darland came from 23rd to 5th. The non qualifiers race looked like a mini feature with Casey Shuman, Matt Westfall, Billy Puterbaugh, Brady Short, Matt Neely, Tracy Hines, Dakoda Armstrong, Brad Kuhn, Travis Welpott, and Critter Malone all missing the top 32 cut for the heats! Malone had a real rough night as he spun on both qualifying laps and couldn't transfer out of the NQ race to the heats. Another good showing for Joshua Clemons as he timed 24th quick and transferred to the Feature with his 3rd place finish in the 4th heat. No small feat making the main on this night. Forty-two modifieds on hand for the Wolfpack Challenge opener.
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Originally Posted by Dwight Clock: First off, I do like to watch sprints, but what USAC did to the mods is bullSH!T. I felt like we were at Terre Haute again. Why would you run 1 mod consi and not the other, oh yeah it's USAC! Everytime we run with USAC the mods get screwed! IF you don't what a support class don't have one. So USAC has just got my last dollar. I will not go to another USAC race. I know you guys on this board really don't care about mods but we are racers just like USAC drivers. I really hope the Wolfpack Series keeps this in consideration when they make there schedule next year, NOT to run with USAC (U SUCK AT CLASS)!!!! |
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I trust that you noticed the big crowd on hand last night. And I am sure also that you noticed about 3/4 of them get up and head to the concessions, restrooms, parking lot, and/or pits after the last sprint car heat. No offense against the modifieds but the vast majority of people were there to see USAC sprints. I know that you guys are racers just as much as the sprint car guys but pleasing the masses is what will keep Jiggs and all other promoters in business. You shouldn't take that personally. JMO.
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I am sure the decision the to move the second modified b-main might have been due to it took about 25 minutes to run the first one. I would say if you have a beef with anyone it should be Jiggs not USAC.
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Craig, we did the same thing at the Icebreaker with the Lucas Oil Series. We staggered our format around theirs. When you got the big shots in there, they tend to tell ya how things go. The promoter knew what was buttering their bread last night. Sucks it has to be that way.
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To the guy complaining about "USAC" moving the second B-Main, I am pretty sure you will need to talk to Jiggs on that one...USAC doesn't decide the order of the program of a multi-division show. They may confer on it with the promoter, but they don't arbitrarily dictate it to him. Furthermore, if the modifieds hadn't made such a complete mess of their first semi, maybe they wouldn't have had to wait for their second one to run. Third, they need to realize their place in the show. They are an undercard, and not the headliner, and it is far more important to get the bulk of the crowd headed home as soon as possible.
Finally, I seriously doubt that this guy ever gives USAC any of his money, and only frequents races in which his brother his running. Because if he were a devout (or even casual) follower of short track racing, he would already know the things we have just told him, and he wouldn't be raising such a stink...Sir, you will get no sympathy from anyone here. Go watch your mutant taxi cabs and quit whining about your perceived injustice on an open wheel message board, please. Thank you. DM |
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There should be time limits on heat races and semis. That would eliminate one division getting bumped because they can not figure out how to put green flag laps together
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Originally Posted by Millsvideo: |
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Originally Posted by 31bro: Jerry |
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we were there last night, and it seemed like the right decision after looking at our radar on our phone because it was coming
millsvideo, in a roundabout way you represent USAC. they may not pay you, but you are in charge of marketing their videos and DVD's what you said about other RACERS is BS at best. I am pretty sure if I called USAC and told them what their DVD salesman was saying about other people, Mr. Miller wouldnt be a happy camper Good Day James Barnett |
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Dean,
Your comment was funny to me. I guess others tend to worry about everything said and take everything to heart. Mr. Nunn is always up for an arguement about the Mud Cabs anyways... I hit rain right as I got to Kokomo, so I am glad Jiggs bumped it up. Back to the Race: I had a blast with great racing. A little to huggy ple for me, but it was still an exciting race!! Congrats to Cottle and his new team! Scotty Weir did a heck of a job also with eh Edison Crew. I didnt see Darland moving up, I thought he was getting lapped, but then someone next to me told me he made the charge, just as he always does at Gas City! Last thing: Was Sweet and Cottle stalling their motors or something in 3 and 4? They looked to come to a complete stop then take off several times in 3 and 4. |
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It was not up for argument.
And technically Modifieds are "Open Wheel" But thats totally besides the point. Dont bring me into this Mr. Solomon I was not at Gas City, I just found Deans use of words a bit out of line when it came to other race car drivers. Just like Craig might have been out of line blaming USAC I am now out of this discussion |
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Originally Posted by Chris Nunn: |
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Half Wheel? lol
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kil-kare every year has "Open Wheel Friday" with fidgets, winged sprints and mods.
I always thought they should change the title to "Mostly Open Wheel Friday" |
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Or the "Well we were 66% Right Wheel Friday"
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Originally Posted by flywheel: It always amazes me when people try to attribute a person's own opinion to the company they are "affiliated" with. These tragically misled types are the very people they have to write idiotic disclaimers for, such as, "the opinions of (so and so) do not necessarily reflect those of (fill in the blank)." It should be clear to anyone with a three digit IQ that I was not representing anyone but myself when I offered my opinion in this thread. I was just speaking as a racefan who is annoyed with some guy who is making ridiculous accusations about things he clearly knowns nothing about to a fraternity of people who migrate to this message board for information about their favorite form of motorsports, open wheel racing. Evidently this guy simply doesn't have the capacity to understand who this forum caters to. His opinion was foolish, and ill-conceived at best, not only with regard to the subject matter and details of his opinion, but also to whom he decided to complain to. I pointed that out. Sorry... Furthermore, my dad raced stock cars back in the 80's before he died, and while I left my fendered days behind long ago for a better form of racing, it should be understood that modifieds are not stock cars, nor are they open wheel cars. They are some mutated, almost transgendered amalgamation of a racecar, that doesn't really fit into any category (hence the name "modified"), which is why I made the quip about it being a "mutant". It was said in jest, but again, some of the audience here is of limited intelligence so I can expect much of what I say to fly over their heads. That's no surprise to me. Sorry if I offend some with logic and reason. That is not my intent. I simply try to counterbalance some of the foolish ramblings that invariably appear in this forum, which for some reason, isn't all that popular to do. Go figure...Apparently, some people would rather be blissfully unaware than to actually have insight to the very thing they are failing to understand. DM |
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I think Big Block Modifieds are funny looking
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Originally Posted by Millsvideo: And DM, this guy has been going to races for most of his life, watching his uncle race late models (almost 20 years and a track champion) and his great-uncle racing sprints. So the remarks about following his brother (who has 3 championships) and not a short track follower is untrue. And he doesn't just "follow" his brother, they are a TEAM. |
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Originally Posted by Chris Nunn: And technically Modifieds are "Open Wheel" But thats totally besides the point. Dont bring me into this Mr. Solomon I was not at Gas City, I just found Deans use of words a bit out of line when it came to other race car drivers. Just like Craig might have been out of line blaming USAC I am now out of this discussion" Not how I read it...:wink |
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Originally Posted by Chris Nunn: |
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The move to make sure the USAC show got in was probably for the spectators, not the racers. Obviously somebody is going to lose out but right now short track racing needs to build their fan base back up. I think they did right by the vast majority of fans. If the non-headlining class cannot understand this then that is unfortunate but so far I do not see many complaints.
The tendency for most is to be more vocal when there is a complaint to be made so I would venture to guess that 95%+ were happy(or at least not p!ssed off) about last night's decision. Just as a side note-With any argument you are far more effective and credible when you can make your point without mudslinging or insulting. |
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Originally Posted by Millsvideo: You know what? I'm tired of it. I've posted about Dean Mills before, and I will continue to do so until he or I am banished from this board, or I get pissed off enough that I confront him personally. His comments, though mostly accurate, are routinely out of line and nearly always haughty. It's a tired act, as I've said before. People don't come here to be insulted, Mills. Maybe that's how it's done on the West coast, but not here. It's clear from the grammar, vocabularly and structure of your posts that you are a fairly intelligent guy; why don't you put some of that intelligence to good use and try not to offend, put off, or flat out piss off, the people who frequent this board? |
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Originally Posted by dfish: |
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Originally Posted by somebodysmam: Did you enjoy yourself at Bloomington last night, I thought I saw you through the cloud of dust during hot laps. |
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it should be understood that modifieds are not stock cars...Dean Mills
I'm going to disagree, Dean! Simply trimming the sheet metal back to expose the front wheels is not enough in my book to reclassify it as anything other than a stock car. Now, If you don't care for stock cars, that's bad, because it's still a stock car. If you like stock cars, that's good, because it's still a stock car! Right????:thumb |
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Originally Posted by smbpreformance: |
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Originally Posted by big3131: |
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What a first post...
Someone get the hook |
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Originally Posted by dfish: As far as your assertion that you would like to confront me, feel free to. I will gladly oblige you. I can be easily spotted at any race track. By all means, come right on up and say hello and we will have a nice conversation about whatever is on your mind. I think if you actually took the time to meet me, you'd find a completely different person than the one you presume me to be, and you'd discover that there is a reason that I am, as you say "mostly accurate" in my opinions. It's called conviction. The bottom line is, I am just a race fan who chose capturing images of the sport with a video camera as a means to make a living. I excel at it, and that is why I am where I am. That's why I've been around 25 years. Regardless of sanction, I will be around for a long time to come, because it is what I have devoted my life to, and there is a lot for me left to accomplish. You may not like what I have to say at times because it can often hit too close to home, but nobody on this planet can ever question my desire or passion for this sport. That is really all that need be understood. Anyone wishing to contact me with an issue can reach me easily. My contact numbers and email are all on my website at www.millsvideoproductions.com. Thank you. Sincerely, Dean Mills |
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I know i have to have 358 to have a oppinion.
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Originally Posted by swaybar: |
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WOW havn't taken a health class yet huh?
Dean you work is amazing!!!!! |
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Originally Posted by Millsvideo: As for you, Mills: I'm going to respond to each of the things I've captured in the quote box, in order. Why would I, or anyone, feel threatened by someone using logic and reason? Yet again, the words you choose make you appear haughty and elitist ... Who's running away from facts and opinions? I don't doubt at all that it was the right move to run the sprinters ahead of the mods. That's how it should be. It's your choice of words (yet again) I am taking issue with ... I too am secure in my beliefs. And I believe I don't like your attitude ... I'm not sure I have the patience to meet you and not want to choke you to death. You're right, I could be all wrong, but all we have to form an opinion with on this board are words, and your words don't send a very promising message for you as a human being. Bottom line is, people are put off by you. If you are the nice person you claim to be, then just be that way on here. I don't care if you think you're the second coming of Hemingway and that the written word is your vehicle to get your points across; just be nice. Don't demean people, don't look down your nose, don't offend. Otherwise, get the hell back to where you came from. I'm sure most of us are comfortable with watching the races through D.O.'s lens and not yours. |
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Originally Posted by big3131: It's just like when USAC runs with IndyCar on pavement. USAC is going to get bumped (loss of laps) if the schedule was behind or needed changed for whatever reason because IndyCar is the headliner. That's the way racing cards work...and should work IMO. I was happy with how everything was run. Give the fans what they want. |
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Originally Posted by dfish: I am totally bummed about not getting to go back to Gas City tonight, and instead of sitting here and wasting my time bickering with some faceless guy on the Internet, I am getting my (backside) out of the house and going to North Vernon. It's the only track still left standing in the state, and I want to see some sprint car action tonight. So, feel free to pick me and my opinions apart all ya like, but I am going off to have a good time. If it gets rained out, so be it. At least I gave it my all. But, then you will probably find Sean Buckley and I down at "I'm Stuffed" pizza parlor just North of where the 7 and the 50 highways collide. Come in and have some Bosco Stix and Old Chicago Style deep dish pizza. You will surely love it... Well, see ya on the other side! DM - Living The Dream |
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The show was for the usac sprint cars not modifieds at all and I am glad to see where they put them to the back of the program.If it took that long for the first b-main what about the second one.I will comment on this tri-state speedway took care of this problem a couple years ago 8 laps 8 minute heats and 12 laps or 12 minutes for the consi and the feature who cares the sprints are run first and then I am gone.The best thing about this rule is has only been used twice since they put it into effect stopped the idiots from ruining the show and now they strap in and race.Would like to see the dirt modifieds in this area because they know how to race not spin out all night like the ump modifieds and has for them needing to qualify these cars no way do I want to pay to watch that happen.
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I think last nights show was USAC doing what it said it was going to do. Have the show over by 10:30PM.
If the mods had not been a crash fest and the USAC feature had not had more yellows that the rest of the program, they could have been done by 9:30PM. My question is, the promoters claim that a support series is to keep the fans entertained so there will be no down time. If this is true, why was some kind of entertainment not offered during the 45 minute delay while than reran in the track? If they wanted to keep the fans entertained they should have had a band, stand up comic or a girly show. I think the only reason they worked on the track is because everything went so smoothe in hot laps and qualifing. All that was done by 7:15 and the show should have started then.I did not think there was anything wrong with the track unless they figured the Mods would wear it out and they were preserving the track. |
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Originally Posted by openwheelKT: Very well put!!!!! |
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Originally Posted by Millsvideo: I LIKE DM...good person, all should be so fortunate to meet him and get to know him. Jealous, I am at work and your racin. LTD man.. Catch ya at where ever it may be!:greenflag: |
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