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Please Please dont shoot the messenger here. But we are adding the NeSmith Crate Late Models to our program on Saturday May 3rd.

Figured i would give everyone the heads up before you got to the track and said "where the hell did they come from"

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Would it be safe to say that the management either:
a) Doesnt think the hosting a USAC Sprint race will fill the place or...
b) They need the money from another class at the back gate to cover the sanction fee

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We picked up the NeSmith sanction due to Twin Cities dropping it...thats all I know. They need a full season of racing to have enough races in to make up their points schedule. So they are racing almost every weekend from here on out

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I was on the fence about coming or not. I think that just made up my mind for me.:thumbsdown:

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I was planning on going to THAT May 2 and then on to Brownstown May 3.

Now I will go to THAT and then home.

I have never been to Brownstown and thought this would be a great time to see the place and get 2 races in two days.

Not now.

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I feel the same about crate late models that you feel about IndyCar. You like what you like and you hate what you hate. IMO that's why the Little 500 is so fantastic - 2+ hours of non-wing sprints racing on a paved track. It's everything I like and nothing I don't.

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For most shows 1 support class is expected, beyond that the natives get a little restless. This show, on their website, was scheduled as USAC Sprints and UMRA TQ midgets. An all open wheel show! I am sure that some are dissapointed that the 3rd class has been added. It also makes it more difficult to get the feature in early as has been intended by USAC. Lastly one of the reasons that the crowd is getting older and older at open wheel events is that the kids never get to meet the drivers and see the cars close up anymore. Waiting through 1 extra feature before being let into the pits is a possibility, waiting through 2 probably isnt.

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:crying::crying: if one support class of fender cars is gonna keep you home from a usac race you must not be much of a fan. some people amaze me!

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Thats A Good Idea Don.im Tired Of Hearing You ***** About Suppot Classes.stay Home & Watch Tv

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AMEN. Agree 100%. Live down here in the south, where you have to set through 6 or 7 support classes just to see the headliner event, which is usually super late-models. You people have it so good up there and don't even realize it.

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Too many support classes = bad. Zero support classes = also bad. No time to run to the pits, B.S. with other IOW members. etc. Adding what is usually a half-way decent support class isn't going to stop me from going.

Jerry

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Jerry, I Agree,but Some People Want To ***** About Every Little Thing.they Would Rather Sit Between Races With Nothing At All On The Track.true Race Fans Don`t Mind A Support Class Or Two.no More Than That Won`t Hurt Anything

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"Mr. Don O'Neal" fan has spoken!:wink:D

Good point John.

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Well, I am going to Winchester Sunday, my favorite track. The sprints run first. I like that. I can then leave. Also, I don't have to put up with fendered stuff that helps to dry the track out so quickly. Why? It's paved. I like that too.

I'm glad I was able to amaze you.

Signed,

Designated by jjones as not much of a fan, AKA Seadog.

P.S. Please quote me as to where I "bitched" about it.

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I consider myself a true race fan. I enjoy watching all different types of racing. If it has wheels and goes fast I am hooked. I have seen some excellent racing in support classes. On the other hand I have also seen some very poor racing in support classes.

The ideal situation, in my opinion, is a maximum of two support classes with a time limit on each race or a feature only race for the support classes. It moves the program along while giving everyone the opportunity to get home at a decent hour. I don't need to see a marathon racing evening of 6 or 7 classes racing for 5 hours or more and still have to drive home 2 or 3 hours.

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Guys to be honest...yes he was a little worried about the fan count with us not being a Sprint Car track. And just to ease the pain a little. Dont expect but maybe 10 crates..so it might take about 2 minutes out of the program. So if that is keeping you from coming to the show...I dont know what to tell you

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I'm in the same boat as you are Stephen. I can't imagine staying home from a race I'd like to attend just because of ONE support division.

I was at L'burg a few years ago and overheard some crewmen for an unnamed sprint car racer complaining about the number of "taxi-cabs" (their term, not mine) in attendance. Fast forward to present and that driver is now racing, you guessed it, stock cars.

I hope the Brownstown race is a huge success.

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He seen where all the $$$$$$ was..lol

DISCLAIMER: Please note that my reply to PJ was a joke. Thank you :)

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A national series like USAC merits and deserves a good track surface, not one that is worn out by too many supports series.

As anyone check the THAT schedule for The MSCS show.

One class and there dose not to be room for too much down time.

Featrue to start at 8:45 PM. Anybody want to bet the USAC feature will start at 8:45PM at Brownstown.

As was stated before, one class, pit access. Three classes little or no pit access.

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I've been looking forward to this race since it was announced. Adding crate late models to the card isn't keeping me away.

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Dyno, if you were a promoter, you wouldnt make any money.

I repeat...the crates will have maybe 10 cars there, with Twin Cities also running Crates on the same evening. There WILL be a Time Limit on the Crates.

Now im regretting even posting this in the first place.

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That right there is the key....time limit. Don't make me sit through races I don't care about IF sprint cars are ready to go. If the sprint cars still need downtime, then fine. I hate when you go to a local track and have to sit through a support class that takes forever because of yellows. They have the right to race...they paid their money. Just don't keep them out there forever if it's a wreck-fest. I prefer one class...two at the most if you are going to have them. More than two and it's too much IMO. Whatever the headliner is should be up the moment they are ready to run. If there's a time limit, then I'm fine with it.

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Time limits are the key. Without those...makes for a looooooooong evening

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Sprint car people complaining about Cautions in OTHER classes, i've seen it all now!!!! Someone told me that SOME Sprint car fans were elitists, I didn't think that was true, but i'm beginning to believe them....I read in another thread where one of the sprint car folks was saying "let all the junk race on another night", I thought we were all RACING people, I can't stand watching the crates, but if they were the support for a class I wanted to see, I certainly wouldn't let them keep me from going...I'm not a big fan of 6-7 support classes, but 2 support classes w/time limites for the USAC show should NOT be a big deal and shouldn't add much time at all to the event. If you don't like the "stock" cars, use that time to head to the pi$$er or the concession stand!!!! Lord knows you need extra time to hit the pi$$er at B'town, it's a hike(no offense Chris)!!!!

Guys, go support Brownstown on this race, if you don't, guess what, they won't have them again and if sprint's are a class you like, it's always great to have another place to see them run isn't it??


the dirty one!!!

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they will only get about 15-18 feature only 15 laps

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Chris, is this the same series that was the Stormpay.com touring series last year? If David Earl Gentry was coming to run, even the most jaded sprint car fan would enjoy watching him race, that boy is exciting. They don't call him Lewisburg Lightning for nothing.

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dirtball, your post made me laugh. My buddy likes mods / lates, & he gives me hell every time a red flag is thrown because they have to push the field off again in a sprint car race, or when they "farm" the track, holding up the racing, he says they NEVER do that at just a stock car race, & you know what...HE'S RIGHT!!! I think most sprint car fans find it hard to accept that there are LOTS more fendered fans around than open wheel...myself included at times.
For those that aren't going based solely on Crates running...man I wish I had that option here in Missouri. Maybe USAC needs to become a truly NATIONAL series as they claim, & not run the bulk of their schedule in a 1 - 2 state area. I know many that would walk through fire to see non-wing racing here!!

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anyone that was at the twin cities sprint show couple of weeks ago knows there was only about 16-18 of them there so like chris says there shouldnt be too many of them there...i dont think there is alot of them around this area..me i cant wait for the usac show hope it leads to a sprintweek date next year....well actually i would like to see a sprintweek date this year...

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So I guess I wont be seeing you guys at Winchester.

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Yeah wait a minute, we are running three classes, one of which might have 10-14 cars, but yet people are complaining, and then the people complaining are going to Winchester...which is running FOUR classes...

Looks like people are just trying to FIND something to complain about.

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I'm not complaining, am I? I just am making a choice. I am allowed to do that.
Look at the Winchester schedule for the day.

http://winchesterspeedway.com/front_...erSchedule.pdf

Not much waiting for sprint cars. And the support cars at Winchester won't make the track dry slick now, will they?

The Winchester race in '07 - I left after the sprint feature and was on my way home well before 5:00 PM.

That's what is so great about living in this country - you have lots of choices.:thumb

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Yeah but its asphalt...:thumbsdown:

;););)

Ok the winky smilies arent what I thought they were

At Brownstown sprints will slick off the track faster than the crates

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The more cars on the track, the faster it gets dry slicky. Period.
Asphalt? I didn't know that!:kookoo Winchester is my all-time favorite track in the WORLD. I've been going there since 1955. It kicks Assphalt. Dirt is good. Nuthin' wrong with it. I just prefer my thunder on pavement.

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If they need a support class glad to see that it is crate late models instead of the ump modifieds good choice for support group.