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Johnjohnsonjr 2/26/11 1:25 AM

The best raceceiver
 
Looking for info. What is the best raceceiver for sprintcar's.
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Sandy Lowe 2/26/11 11:53 PM

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I believe the Raceceiver's are all the same. You need to make sure you get a good set of earpieces.
I've read where Fuze is supposed to be a really good earphone. http://www.earfuze.com/store.html

Any drivers out there want to chime in on what works best for them?

treecitytornado 2/27/11 11:10 AM

All the raceceivers are the same,but some are trying to make more off of them than others. Dawn Flinn at EarEverything has the best custom ear pieces on the market hands down! Don't wear a raceceiver without contacting her first. Go to www.Eareverything.com.
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apexonephoto 2/27/11 11:29 AM

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The basic $99 yellow raceceiver is what most racers would need. But like treecitytornado and Sandy pointed out, the earpiece can make a huge difference. I have the racing electronics ultra soft fitted earmolds. They are excellent. They are expensive and you need an audiologist to make the molds for your ears. They don't fall out, you hear what you need to and they are comfortable. I spent my childhood at racetracks, my teenage years at concerts and I have worked in automotive production facilites for 16 years. Now I usually hit 40-50 races a years and can't tolerate being around racecar anymore with hearing protection.

TQ29m 2/27/11 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Lowe:
I believe the Raceceiver's are all the same. You need to make sure you get a good set of earpieces.
I've read where Fuze is supposed to be a really good earphone. http://www.earfuze.com/store.html

Any drivers out there want to chime in on what works best for them?

I never was impressed with the Raceceiver's, looked like they coulda spent a bit more time testing them under actual conditions, maybe OK for sitting on your 14 inches of pine, and watching, but in actual use, I wasn't impressed. The old Bearcat Scanner we used, altho a lot of aggrivation, did produce good solid sound, and reception. I haven't tried any of the newer raceceiver's, maybe they've improved, battery life was short, and as a driver, they needed simplified as far as finding the frequency, the early one's the batteries were about done, by the time you scanned to the freq you wanted. Bob:29:

apexonephoto 2/27/11 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TQ29m:
I never was impressed with the Raceceiver's, looked like they coulda spent a bit more time testing them under actual conditions, maybe OK for sitting on your 14 inches of pine, and watching, but in actual use, I wasn't impressed. The old Bearcat Scanner we used, altho a lot of aggrivation, did produce good solid sound, and reception. I haven't tried any of the newer raceceiver's, maybe they've improved, battery life was short, and as a driver, they needed simplified as far as finding the frequency, the early one's the batteries were about done, by the time you scanned to the freq you wanted. Bob:29:

I use a bearcat for just listening. I do notice that racers always seem to be changing those triple A's in the raceceivers every time they get out of the car!

TQ29m 2/27/11 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by apexonephoto:
I use a bearcat for just listening. I do notice that racers always seem to be changing those triple A's in the raceceivers every time they get out of the car!

I don't remember the model, but it is a 25 channel, programmable, but you can put in the channel, and lock it, for the driver, he only needs one anyway, and turn it on. I use the stubby ant on mine, and if we don't forget, one set of blue top batteries will last all season, yes , you do have to mount it to the car, but it's cheap, and it works, a freq is a freq, I don't understand the reason to spec a damn receiver! Bob:15:

koolaid89 2/27/11 6:26 PM

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Racing Electronics makes a RaceCiever equivalent that I'm told is MUCH better. Quality ear buds are also a must. http://www.racingelectronics.net/ind...item=RE-SOLO-2

Quantrill 2/27/11 6:29 PM

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I have to buy something this coming season if someone can come up with different options or model numbers for these bearcat scanners I would like to do some research on them.


Thanks,

Isaac Chapple Racing 2/27/11 6:50 PM

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It seems like I'm changing the battery in my Raceceiver all the time. Also every time you change the battery you lose your channel, and it takes forever to scan back to the right channel. And I would not suggest using the ear buds that come with the Raceceiver.

TQ29m 2/27/11 7:17 PM

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Originally Posted by koolaid89:
Racing Electronics makes a RaceCiever equivalent that I'm told is MUCH better. Quality ear buds are also a must. http://www.racingelectronics.net/ind...item=RE-SOLO-2

While you're there, ck out the BC72, but you can find them on Ebay also. Bob
:)

koolaid89 2/27/11 7:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac Chapple Racing:
It seems like I'm changing the battery in my Raceceiver all the time. Also every time you change the battery you lose your channel, and it takes forever to scan back to the right channel. And I would not suggest using the ear buds that come with the Raceceiver.

A battery should last you a night... You may be able to to get two nights out of it if your sure to remove it from the scanner after the feature. Most tracks up here give you a AAA battery when you sign in for your pit pass...

Isaac Chapple Racing 2/27/11 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by koolaid89:
A battery should last you a night... You may be able to to get two nights out of it if your sure to remove it from the scanner after the feature. Most tracks up here give you a AAA battery when you sign in for your pit pass...

Yeah, I replace my battery once a night. I usually don't remove it after a feature.. It's no big deal to buy some AAA's though..

TQ29m 2/27/11 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac Chapple Racing:
Yeah, I replace my battery once a night. I usually don't remove it after a feature.. It's no big deal to buy some AAA's though..

The Bearcat we use is a BC60XLT, it is a 30 ch, 10 band, scans 30 channels, there is a new one on Ebay right now, for under 60.00. Bob:)

Longhaul Racer 3/1/11 2:22 PM

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So the majority of folks don't seem to be concerned over a particular problem or issue with any of the brands and I understand the ear pieces maybe the primary worry. Most of the short tracks in the midwest are going to these and several folks will be buying them if they don't have them already. Thanks everyone for the input. Any other comments from drivers would be great.

TQ29m 3/1/11 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhaul Racer:
So the majority of folks don't seem to be concerned over a particular problem or issue with any of the brands and I understand the ear pieces maybe the primary worry. Most of the short tracks in the midwest are going to these and several folks will be buying them if they don't have them already. Thanks everyone for the input. Any other comments from drivers would be great.

Oh Contraire, I think from what I've seen here, there is concern, but most folks just do as they're told, if it don't work, and you can't hear, just watch everyone else, when they throw up their hand, wait a second, and throw up your hand, hell, no one will know you CAN'T hear, you just spent money on something that may, or may not, be what you need, but by golly you bought what they told you to, and you got your free battery, so go thru the motions! I put the one I bought, back on Ebay, and got my money back, and went back to my Bearcat. They make a small speaker, that you can either hang over your ear, or pull out the thick padding in the ear pocket in your helmet, and double sticky a thinner piece to the speaker, and it's just like sitting at a drive-in theater, and yes, the're still around, one at Osgood if you wanna show the kids something that isn't electronic, and they can't control. My experience, not good, we did have some problems with the first Bearcats, they were refurbs, and some did, and some didn't, that's been 10 years or so ago, and my original still works. Bob:29:

Fontana180 3/1/11 5:25 PM

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I have a bearcat BC 60XLT-1 the batteries last and you also can put in recharge batts to recarge them when needed. I have used the same batteries for two years back east. I am trying to put a car together for Ventura and hope to be able to use it there rather than buying a raceciever. I have had both and like the bearcat better. I acually sold my raceciever a few years ago to someone else. All that is needed is the freuq.

TQ29m 3/1/11 7:52 PM

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And, for a mount to afix it to the chassis, you can take an old tennis shoe, or a shower thong, like I see lots of in church, and Gorrilla glue it to the cockpit or wherever, and slide it down in there, and lace it up! Some of us were lucky enough to find a little pouch, at a surplus store, that it slides into, like it was made for it, even has a strap, and a real live snap button, to keep it in the case. No velcro needed! Bob:6:

earsaver 6/6/11 10:01 AM

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Hello all! I know Ive been quiet here for a while, I was getting Indycar and ALMS guys going for the first part of the year.

I am a lic and certified audiologist, I have built my business around the needs of people involved in motorsports and music. I have found that a ton of folks out there are having a hard time with the race ceiver earbuds or finding a good option so that you can hear the radio communications.

Here is the secret...getting to the second bend of the ear canal to offer ISOLATION. With ISOLATION, you(r) (child) doesnt need to turn UP the earbuds OVER the outside noise leaking around the earphones. THEREFORE by creating this seal with their earcanal, they can listen comfortably at lower volume levels. Listening aat lower volumes will extend SAFER listening times.

Just because we tape ipod earbuds to the kids head, doesnt mean we are creating a seal with their ear canal seperating the sound on the outside from the sound on the inside. So we are still inclined to turn the volume of the race ceiver up to max. generic earphones can produce up to 110-115 dB IN YOUR (KIDS) EARS. We are going to make them hard of hearing faster! At 110-115dB you start doing damage to your ears within 40 minutes...track days are never 40 minutes only.

My service is EDUCATION as well. Most of the racers come from farming families, families in Industry, families that go hunting, families that work with power tools to work on their own cars...THESE ARE ALL NOISE SOURCES....we need to educate this generation of racers about the dangers of the high volume environments thats are spending time in.

We buy proper helmets, and proper fire suits, and proper gloves...THIS IS A PIECE OF RACING SAFETY EQUIPMENT. We need to treat it this way to change the culture and show these young racers hearing loss does NOT have to be a byproduct of enjoying this sport.

OK, (stepping down off the soap box) so that is what I do. I make a beautiful earset for drivers. It is made of soft silicone, it is REPAIRABLE, it is durable with extra strain relief, has a great speaker, and can be made with any length wires. I will help the earset grow as your child grows and NOT expect you to re purchase. there is a warranty on these earphones.

these earphones are worn by Brian Vickers, Kasey Kahne, Mark Martin, Scott Sharp, David Brabham, Scott Dixon, and so many more....

My website (building a better one currently) is www.earEVERYTHING.com

my email is dawn@earEVERYTHING.com
my phone is 317-514-9584

:6:

---------- Post added at 10:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:01 AM ----------

BTW, the help I need from you guys, if you like what I have to say, is some guidance about which tracks would like me to come there and take free ear impressions and show you guys this better earset.

US24 and Miami County speedway Mini Indy QMA, Columbus QMA have invited me to come around and walk the paddock speaking to the racers. I offer ear impressions at NO CHARGE NO OBLIGATION. I need to get the impression to potentially make the product. Any help is always appreciated!

j_vennard54 6/6/11 12:19 PM

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Here are what I use, have had them since 2000, still work great and hear everything just peachy.. without a lot of background noise from the engine etc, similar to wearing ear plugs.. which also help filter the noise and make the important stuff more clear -- cars around you, your engine/driveline, etc..

http://www.racingelectronics.net/ind...molds&item=RE3

kdmillerman 6/6/11 12:40 PM

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get the yellow one out of speedway motors with the holder. you can use a variety of earphones..even from a ipod etc!

earsaver 6/6/11 1:25 PM

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yes, racing radios, racing electronics, speed comm, race comm all make earphones that are similar to that. There is NOTHING wrong with them...but

they use only two length wires 19" or 36", custom lengths are not available. When a repair is needed they are NOT REPAIRABLE. They simply push in pre wired foamies into a custom mold. So to 'repair' them, you need to purchase another pair of foamies because they are connected by a plastic injection molded connector. Everyone has different ear chemistry and different levels of care for their items. This directly affects the length they stay working properly.

They require an ear impression, just like mine. My impression fee for other products is $50-75. So add that amount and the time to get an appointment, to your base price of $139.99 and Im right there is the ballpark price-wise and I think its a heartier product.

Dalton Dietrich 6/6/11 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TQ29m:
I never was impressed with the Raceceiver's, looked like they coulda spent a bit more time testing them under actual conditions, maybe OK for sitting on your 14 inches of pine, and watching, but in actual use, I wasn't impressed. The old Bearcat Scanner we used, altho a lot of aggrivation, did produce good solid sound, and reception. I haven't tried any of the newer raceceiver's, maybe they've improved, battery life was short, and as a driver, they needed simplified as far as finding the frequency, the early one's the batteries were about done, by the time you scanned to the freq you wanted. Bob:29:

My local track MAKES us wear one...not a bad thing...but you can't hear them, no matter how high quality your earbuds are.[COLOR="Black"]

TQ29m 6/6/11 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalton Dietrich:
My local track MAKES us wear one...not a bad thing...but you can't hear them, no matter how high quality your earbuds are.[COLOR="Black"]

I can understand them requiring you to use a "radio", but can they legally dictate the brand? There are a lot of choices on the market, that will do what they want, for the driver to be able to be in contact with the tower, which is good, we've used the Bearcat for at least 10yrs, maybe more, I still am using my first one, and it was a refurb, plus I do carry a spare, that I bought used, off ebay. Just wondering! Bob:)

Dave Rudisell 6/6/11 4:17 PM

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The raceceiver we use is the raceceiver brand, they are very simple, all you do is put the battery in and your ready to go. The AAA battery will last for the season if you take the battery out at the end of the night.
no need to program anything. Put it in your pocket and put your earpieces in and your ready to go, there is a volume adjustment also if its too loud. As far as ear pieces i have seen guys use all types, from the cheap ones that cost under $15 to the custom molded ones.
Dave

earsaver 8/1/11 11:31 AM

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PLEASE dont forget not all earpieces are created equal. You MUST get something that seals with your ear. You MUST protect your hearing and encourage the young racers to not suffer the hearing loss the older racers are finally starting to notice. You CANT USE ipod earbuds, they dont seal with your ear, you turn the volume straight up to full on and now everytiime someone talks you get 110-115dB in the ear canal and no protection from outside sound.

Yes I know I sell custom earpieces but Im also an audiologist and it is SO important to want to teach the younger racers who will have to deal with two way radio communication FOR EVER if they work in racing, to protect their hearing every chance they get.

The benefit of custom is simple, it FITS YOUR EAR!!, it goes in the same way every time, there is a constant seal, allowing the user to reduce the volume level. This happens because the canal portion of the earpiece goes deep enough into the ear to create a stable seal. it stays in place, volume levels are lower, less stress and disorientation from the abundance of noise that occurs at race tracks.

Im here to help. Purchase is NOT required....:6:


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