C.W. Promotions sweetens the deal for July 3-
 

June 29, 2010
Sun Prarie Wisconsin


C.W. Promotions has added a bonus purse to the first three cars that are outside the top 15 in USAC National Midget points fir this weekends racing events at Angell Park Speedway. The highest finishing car outside the top 15 in USAC National midget points will receive an added $500 bonus, second highest will receive $300 dollars and the third highest will walk away with $200. This bonus will be added ON TOP of the respective finishing position money! That's a guaranteed $750 to the top finisher outside the USAC points leaders, and could be much more based on finishing position! This bonus is in place for both nights of racing action on Saturday July 3rd and Sunday July 4th. Come enjoy a great holiday weekend in one of the most scenic vacations spots the midwest offers.




Please come out and support the sport of midget racing!


Thanks


Chris Wilke
C.W. Promotions

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Originally Posted by Angell Park Speedway:
June 29, 2010
Sun Prarie Wisconsin


C.W. Promotions has added a bonus purse to the first three cars that are outside the top 15 in USAC National Midget points fir this weekends racing events at Angell Park Speedway. The highest finishing car outside the top 15 in USAC National midget points will receive an added $500 bonus, second highest will receive $300 dollars and the third highest will walk away with $200. This bonus will be added ON TOP of the respective finishing position money! That's a guaranteed $750 to the top finisher outside the USAC points leaders, and could be much more based on finishing position! This bonus is in place for both nights of racing action on Saturday July 3rd and Sunday July 4th. Come enjoy a great holiday weekend in one of the most scenic vacations spots the midwest offers.




Please come out and support the sport of midget racing!


Thanks


Chris Wilke
C.W. Promotions

That sounds like a pretty smart idea to encourage more cars to show up. Good Job!

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Will the Don Moore midgets be in the house?

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Originally Posted by staggerman:
Will the Don Moore midgets be in the house?

no

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
no

So the Wilkies are reaching out to racers like you, offering a bonus for non-affiliated cars. Doing just what you have been asking for but you STILL wont show up. :17:

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Paging MEGA-BUCK MIDGET racer STEVIE BUCKWALTER:2:

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
So the Wilkies are reaching out to racers like you, offering a bonus for non-affiliated cars. Doing just what you have been asking for but you STILL wont show up. :17:

1. Here you are on IOW within six minutes of my post stalking me
again.

2. You apparently are suffering from diminishing reading skills and comprehension of the CW Promotions text. Where in the world do you see my cars or current pool of drivers listed outside the top 15 in USAC points and/or that I'm a member of the United States Auto Club?

3. And finally, go back and read the car counts for the two midget races held last Saturday night in Belleville, IL and Burlington, Iowa and that will answer the question of who wants to race where in the United States.

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I'm puzzled too, Don, as to why this offer doesn't interest you.
As to car counts last Saturday (36-38 at Belleville, and only 18 in Iowa), what does that have to do with Sun Prairie?
The first night of IMW there was over 60 Midgets competing at 2 tracks on a WEDNESDAY NIGHT for christ's sake. And by your choice (which I respect, by the way) you hauled past Gas City to run Brownstown, IL with the much-maligned POWRi series.
Now young Mr. Wilke is offering AMCT first place money just to be the top non top-fifteen USAC finisher.....for 2 nights....at the same track.:18:
You're confusing us Donald.

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
1. Here you are on IOW within six minutes of my post stalking me
again.

2. You apparently are suffering from diminishing reading skills and comprehension of the CW Promotions text. Where in the world do you see my cars or current pool of drivers listed outside the top 15 in USAC points and/or that I'm a member of the United States Auto Club?

3. And finally, go back and read the car counts for the two midget races held last Saturday night in Belleville, IL and Burlington, Iowa and that will answer the question of who wants to race where in the United States.

Dont flatter yourself Don you dont mean enough to me or have big enough boobs for me to be stalking you. Since your cars and drivers are not in the top 15 in points in USAC then even you would be eligible for the extra $. The car counts for the shows in Mo and Ia are irrelevant to this post we are talking about Angel park and the promoter is willing to pony up some $ to get a bigger car count. It was, I am sure aimed at some of the badger folks who used to run there but I dont see why you couldnt travel there and try to get some of those $ too. isnt this sort of thing what you have been looking for. Instead of trying to berate me why dont you rationally explain why you wouldnt go there this weekend.

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This will be interesting to see if this brings any Badger guys back to their old stomping grounds. It might help for Sunday's car count.

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Originally Posted by Tim Watson:
This will be interesting to see if this brings any Badger guys back to their old stomping grounds. It might help for Sunday's car count.

Do you have a feel for car count for these two shows? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by mortboyz:
I'm puzzled too, Don, as to why this offer doesn't interest you. You're confusing us Donald.

And I'm confused as to why you and Mr. Hoover want to divert the topic to my race team again... and again.... and again.

Here is my answer and please get back on topic and stop posting about my race operation. I made plans and reservations months ago to go camping over the 4th of July in West Virginia so there's no chance of my race team showing up anywhere in the US. I can only transport one race car to a track at a time unless someone else makes advanced plans to transport a second car which was the case at Montpelier with Geoff Kaiser. I very seldom run two race cars. It's way too expensive. Is that a surprise?

I live about 500 miles from Angell Park. I have to travel thru Chicago to get there and that's a nightmare plus $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in tolls, plus fuel $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The western portion of the Indiana Toll Road and the approach to the bridges in Chicago are some of the worst highways in the US. It beats my motorhome, trailer and contents to death.

I love watching the midgets at Angell Park as a spectator. As a car owner, the track is brutal on midgets. Ask anyone who races there regularly and they will tell you the same thing. It's a track that is almost round in configuration and drivers run it wide open most of the time. We blew an engine there several years ago and it cost a bundle to repair. If you have a new generation Esslinger or Fontana, you are racing at the right place. Otherwise, if you don't, you're wasting your money, IMO, against the USAC multimillionaires.

And I didn't drive by Gas City to race at Brownstown, IL. I was on the road for 4 races in Illinois and Indiana for a week prior to the Brownstown event. Three of them were rained out. Again 500 miles from my home. It was a costly adventure with very little return for expenses.... $125 was the take. That's a few thousand dollars lost there for being away from a business and paying expenses on the road, preparation and everything that goes with it.

And finally, both of you need to reread the CW press release. It specifically says for USAC cars/drivers out of the top 15. I'm not a member of that club and am not interested in competing against teams that, for example, have 22 race cars in their shop, own an engine company, and have millions of dollars at their disposal to outspend anyone in the country. Contrary to what some of you think, owners just can't show up at race tracks at the snap of a fan's fingers. It just doesn't work that way. Walk in the shoes of a car owner for a few weeks and you'll get the picture quickly.

I would appreciate it if you would not come on a public message board and start disciplining car owners such as myself as to where we choose to race. This is a very expensive sport. What may seem like a sweet deal to a fan in the stand is not necessarily a sweet deal to a car owner. There's a lot more to it than just showing up somewhere to race.

Don Moore
LaGrange, OH

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This bonus is open to ALL cars, NO USAC MEMBERSHIP IS REQUIRED!

Thanks!

I feel the car count to be 20-25 Saturday, and 25-30 Sunday, of course this is just an estimate. Come out to the track it will be a good time!

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Don, maybe it's the age thing, but I read, it like you read it, 4 times, now it says you don't have to be a USAC competitor, or did I just have a senior moment? Bob

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Originally Posted by TQ29m:
Don, maybe it's the age thing, but I read, it like you read it, 4 times, now it says you don't have to be a USAC competitor, or did I just have a senior moment? Bob

Naw... No senior moment. It reads that it's for USAC cars/drivers out of the top 15. Now a later post says it's for everyone.

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It reads top 3 cars out- side of 15th place in USAC NATIONAL POINTS:8:

If you didn't have an outside agenda or perceived notion it was pretty self explanatory:14:

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Actually the advertisement could be read either way, thus should have been more exact, but now we know.

I love any post that Don is involved with just to get another view, although I agree 50/50 usually. I for one agree that this would have been more effective if it was announced much earlier to allow teams not already going time to plan. That is what the extra purse is intended to do, bring out teams that weren't already planning to come, but on a holiday weekend most already have other plans.

For me though, part of the challenge is to compete with the deep pockets and beat them with much less, that is fun! That is part of this sport, has always been, and will always be.

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In fairness to CW Promotions this deal was just announced about a week or so back. In fairness to Don I want to say that as a fan I deeply appreciate it when ANY car owner decides to spend a bunch of their money for my entertainment.

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
And I'm confused as to why you and Mr. Hoover want to divert the topic to my race team again... and again.... and again.

Here is my answer and please get back on topic and stop posting about my race operation. I made plans and reservations months ago to go camping over the 4th of July in West Virginia so there's no chance of my race team showing up anywhere in the US. I can only transport one race car to a track at a time unless someone else makes advanced plans to transport a second car which was the case at Montpelier with Geoff Kaiser. I very seldom run two race cars. It's way too expensive. Is that a surprise?

I live about 500 miles from Angell Park. I have to travel thru Chicago to get there and that's a nightmare plus $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in tolls, plus fuel $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. The western portion of the Indiana Toll Road and the approach to the bridges in Chicago are some of the worst highways in the US. It beats my motorhome, trailer and contents to death.

I love watching the midgets at Angell Park as a spectator. As a car owner, the track is brutal on midgets. Ask anyone who races there regularly and they will tell you the same thing. It's a track that is almost round in configuration and drivers run it wide open most of the time. We blew an engine there several years ago and it cost a bundle to repair. If you have a new generation Esslinger or Fontana, you are racing at the right place. Otherwise, if you don't, you're wasting your money, IMO, against the USAC multimillionaires.

And I didn't drive by Gas City to race at Brownstown, IL. I was on the road for 4 races in Illinois and Indiana for a week prior to the Brownstown event. Three of them were rained out. Again 500 miles from my home. It was a costly adventure with very little return for expenses.... $125 was the take. That's a few thousand dollars lost there for being away from a business and paying expenses on the road, preparation and everything that goes with it.

And finally, both of you need to reread the CW press release. It specifically says for USAC cars/drivers out of the top 15. I'm not a member of that club and am not interested in competing against teams that, for example, have 22 race cars in their shop, own an engine company, and have millions of dollars at their disposal to outspend anyone in the country. Contrary to what some of you think, owners just can't show up at race tracks at the snap of a fan's fingers. It just doesn't work that way. Walk in the shoes of a car owner for a few weeks and you'll get the picture quickly.

I would appreciate it if you would not come on a public message board and start disciplining car owners such as myself as to where we choose to race. This is a very expensive sport. What may seem like a sweet deal to a fan in the stand is not necessarily a sweet deal to a car owner. There's a lot more to it than just showing up somewhere to race.

Don Moore
LaGrange, OH

Just responding to YOUR post......sigh.

Say hi to the puppies for me:6:

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I am posting the top 5 Don Moore IOW rules. Remember them and be able to say them in your sleep.

1. No off topic statements - ever - in any post you make. Not even a little. We are not here to have fun people.

2. No stalking. You know who you are. This is a punishable offense.

3. Do not ask him anything about his reasons for going racing or not going racing. That is too personal.

4. Do not respond in a positive manor about the purple tire company, USAC, engine builders, officials or any other serious professional racing enterprises/endeavors.

5. Don Moore is always correct and you have no idea about anything racing related, regardless of who you are or how much experience you have in this business.

:17::17::17:

P.S. - I forgot one - you must improve your reading comprehension skills or face stiff penalties.

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top 20 in points

1 Bryan Clauson 811
2 Tracy Hines 726
3 Brad Kuhn 710
4 Brad Sweet 660
5 Jerry Coons Jr. 635
6 Dave Darland 618
7 Bobby East 604
8 Darren Hagen 603
9 Zach Daum 493
10 Henry Clarke 464
11 Shane Hmiel 413
12 Brad Loyet 411
13 Caleb Armstrong 299
14 Chad Boat 263
15 Levi Roberts 247
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16 Levi Jones 235
17 Mario Clouser 211
18 Alex Bowman 180
19 Mike Hess 164
20 Cale Conley 141

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Originally Posted by Fred Zirzow:
top 20 in points

1 Bryan Clauson 811
2 Tracy Hines 726
3 Brad Kuhn 710
4 Brad Sweet 660
5 Jerry Coons Jr. 635
6 Dave Darland 618
7 Bobby East 604
8 Darren Hagen 603
9 Zach Daum 493
10 Henry Clarke 464
11 Shane Hmiel 413
12 Brad Loyet 411
13 Caleb Armstrong 299
14 Chad Boat 263
15 Levi Roberts 247
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16 Levi Jones 235
17 Mario Clouser 211
18 Alex Bowman 180
19 Mike Hess 164
20 Cale Conley 141

Hmmm I think if you look at the top of the standings you will find a team that hauls their car in a trailer behind a dually and doesnt have NEAR the budget that the "USAC multimillionaires" have. They dont
"have 22 race cars in their shop, own an engine company, and have millions of dollars at their disposal to outspend anyone in the country" No they are smart with their money and outwork everyone out there and then kick butt. Maybe there is a lesson you could learn there Don.

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Maybe there is a lesson you could learn there Don.

Actually the lesson is that you and the other stalker could teach a college course on how to hijack a thread. How many more times are you going to stalk and post the same stupid off topic nonsense on here.

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Every time I read Don post "Off topic! Off topic!" I get the mental imagery of Gomer chasing Barney hollering "Citizen's AhREST Citizen's AhREST !"
Yeah I know, that's some stupid off topic nonsense. Sorry.

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:29: Don, are you telling us Buckwalter and Cottle won midget week races with high buck teams? Give us a break. You can now grade my post but that might be stalking me. Please say hi to your puppies, I hope they are not as bitter as you are.

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
Actually the lesson is that you and the other stalker could teach a college course on how to hijack a thread. How many more times are you going to stalk and post the same stupid off topic nonsense on here.

How is this post of yours on-topic Don, or doesn't that count when you do it?:10:

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You guys have made me so popular that I've just signed on with LeBron James' personal agent.

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
You guys have made me so popular that I've just signed on with LeBron James' personal agent.

Sorry Don, off-topic yet again.

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Originally Posted by Seadog:
Sorry Don, off-topic yet again.

:8:

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
no

Don,

Sorry for all the trouble I caused. I was just curious if your cars were going to be there!

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No problem. I've summoned Dr. Phil to help these guys out......

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
No problem. I've summoned Dr. Phil to help these guys out......

See Don; We just can't compete with you. It's just not fair. Most of us would have to go to the county Mental Health Clinic or write to Dear Abby.
You must have BIG BUCKS to have Dr. Phil on retainer.:2:

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Originally Posted by PJ Wright:
See Don; We just can't compete with you. It's just not fair. Most of us would have to go to the county Mental Health Clinic or write to Dear Abby.
You must have BIG BUCKS to have Dr. Phil on retainer.:2:

Nice. I wished I had thought of that. Nice comeback.:6:

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
No problem. I've summoned Dr. Phil to help these guys out......

let me guess, right after you got done crying on Oprah's couch......

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Originally Posted by Seadog:
Do you have a feel for car count for these two shows? Just curious.

I don't mean to sound negative so i'm just making a guess that i hope is wrong but if the Badger guys decide not to race it will hurt. POWRI could add some cars so if you really want me to make a wild guess you got to promise me not to rip on me to hard. If i end up being wrong i can take the feedback. Well.......

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Tim, I am sure not going to rip on you but I really doubt there will be any Badger teams there Saturday. Maybe a few on Sunday but this is the time of the season when budgets are getting pretty stretched, plus some of them will no doubt run up at the Sue Thiel Classic on Friday. I think its absurd how folks get on here and abuse a team owner who spends more money than he will ever make racing midgets just because he loves the sport. Just because an owner doesn't run every race I'd like them to is no excuse for me to criticize them. Maybe some of those folks should try running a midget operation for a year, and run at every event I demand they run. I just don't get it.

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Originally Posted by badgerfan:
Tim, I am sure not going to rip on you but I really doubt there will be any Badger teams there Saturday. Maybe a few on Sunday but this is the time of the season when budgets are getting pretty stretched, plus some of them will no doubt run up at the Sue Thiel Classic on Friday. I think its absurd how folks get on here and abuse a team owner who spends more money than he will ever make racing midgets just because he loves the sport. Just because an owner doesn't run every race I'd like them to is no excuse for me to criticize them. Maybe some of those folks should try running a midget operation for a year, and run at every event I demand they run. I just don't get it.

I agree with you 100%. I know Badger guys won't come on Saturday and i'm thinking Sunday you might only get Davey Ray. So my guess on car count for Saturday will be 15 maybe 20 and Sunday 16 maybe 21. I hope i'm wrong but time will tell. Most likely i will miss these shows cause of other family stuff going on. Saturday is out for me for sure, Sunday doesn't look good either?

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Robbie Ray has been a good APS supporter and I could see him being there on Saturday and Sunday. I could also see Mike Hess there on Sunday as he has run some USAC shows already this year. After racing on Friday and Saturday I wouldn't blame the BADGER racers if they took Sunday off.

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Are you referring to TEAM HINES?I support Tracy and Christa fully in thier efforts which far exceed most!!!They work thier tail-ends off!!Am and always will be a Hines fan...

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Hmmm I think if you look at the top of the standings you will find a team that hauls their car in a trailer behind a dually and doesnt have NEAR the budget that the "USAC multimillionaires" have. They dont
"have 22 race cars in their shop, own an engine company, and have millions of dollars at their disposal to outspend anyone in the country" No they are smart with their money and outwork everyone out there and then kick butt. Maybe there is a lesson you could learn there Don.

Are you referring to Hines? I posted but did it wrong it fell to the bottom...

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Originally Posted by DREW= Hines #1 fan!!!:
Are you referring to TEAM HINES?I support Tracy and Christa fully in thier efforts which far exceed most!!!They work thier tail-ends off!!Am and always will be a Hines fan...

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Are you referring to Hines? I posted but did it wrong it fell to the bottom...

Nope last time I looked Clauson was at the top of the standings.