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I actually went and asked the guys on the camera tonight. No obviously for Bloomington. "Gametime" decision tomorrow at the burg and yes for Kokomo. OK?

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For someone who's so intune with the fans, why has Dave Rudisell never allowed live, full webcasts from L-Burg?

Several of us have asked and he;'s refused to answer.

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Webcasting from every race track USAC travels to would certainly make those of us unable to travel to Indiana as often as we would like happy.

Patti

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Question: What would be an acceptable rate to pay to see that happen? $1.99 a race? $4.99??

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Originally Posted by Klepper:
Question: What would be an acceptable rate to pay to see that happen? $1.99 a race? $4.99??

This would b a good idea that way someone who is to far away to travel to the track could still watch. What would happen if you showed all USAC races live on the web for free? IMO no one locally would go why pay to see it at the track when you can sit at home and watch for free. What would happen to the tracks when no one is in the stands, and promotors feel it is not worth running bigger races cause no one shows up anyway. IMO a fair price would be the cost of a gen. admision ticket, but the track needs to get a part of this money and then we open a whole new can of worms. How about next day tape delayed or something. I dont know the best answer but people staying home because of live vidios, or updates does not help grow the sport.

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I can attest for Brownstown, a live broadcast may keep a fan from coming saying "whatever, ill just sit at home and watch it" costing the promoter some money. Especially today, 98 degree weather with a heat index of over 100?

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Originally Posted by USAC Fan:
For someone who's so intune with the fans, why has Dave Rudisell never allowed live, full webcasts from L-Burg?

Several of us have asked and he;'s refused to answer.

FYI Rudy let them broadcast features at the Usac Opener at the track.

Its a business and if you don't have butts in the seats you don't stay in business very long.

Personally I think the Web-cast highlight both the facilities and racing at a track and can make more people want to visit. The down side, Folks might opt for the web-cast over traveling although I can never see broadcast event being nearly as good as in person.

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Originally Posted by Klepper:
Question: What would be an acceptable rate to pay to see that happen? $1.99 a race? $4.99??

Does the promoter get some?
Also it would depend on how many tune in. How many actually watch the webcast????? Only the shadow knows AKA Millsy. Im sure that varies greatly

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Solve your technical problems USAC. PPV would then be very viable.

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FWIW, I will be paying $10 tonight to watch Knoxville weekly racing live. I do this on weeks where I know I have nothing else going on. So far 2 times this year. $10 seems a little steep but everything considered it's probably a fair price. I have a few friends racing there and just like to watch when I can.

Through the course of the season, my guess is that I'll spend $100 on this. Knoxville's live timing and scoring is great, and I have listened to live audio for free from there, but I'm still paying $10 to watch when I can. I don't know how many others are doing so or whether it's working out financially for them. It's too far for me to drive so they are generating revenue from someone who they otherwise wouldn't get a dime from.

At the same time, I'll be watching the USAC show if it's broadcast for free, and listening to the TNT race through racinboys.com. I'd hate for everything to go PPV like Knoxville but I honestly think there's some revenue this sport needs going untapped in PPV internet broadcasts. I just hope it ends up in the right pockets when it catches on.

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I personally would rather see the races live, even if I have to drive an hour and a half to get there,but I am unable to attend this weekend due to illness and on meds that I am not supposed to be in the sun or heat,so I appreciate the webcast very much.

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Originally Posted by Klepper:
Question: What would be an acceptable rate to pay to see that happen? $1.99 a race? $4.99??

Hey Dude!!....don't matter to me....just comes outa da 'Race Travel'n Fund'...bring it on!!.........
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Brucer':32:

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As for what to charge for Pay-Per-View.

I think a target total $ gross would be what the promoter would charge a title sponsor for the evening. For example $4000 cost to sponsor a local show.

Divide that $4000 by the number of projected viewers to get your cost to view.

In this case an estimated 500 buyers would be $8 cost to view.(It will take promotion to reach that number )

How many have viewed the free (Unannounced) live shows so far ?
I think USAC knows that figure.

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I've been saying this since the live web cast began....USAC could have an initiation fee for USAC Live....pick a number 50 bucks...That's USAC's money....then on race night, the Promoter and USAC go 80-20 or 70-30, with the Promoter getting the majority of the race night money. I think the Promoter should charge general admission price's for the web cast....How else can you watch USAC's best go wheel to wheel from the comfort of your own couch...20 bucks isn't to much to ask.....I'M IN....:32:

P.S.....Free is nice thouigh...:2:

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Originally Posted by Pine:
I've been saying this since the live web cast began....USAC could have an initiation fee for USAC Live....pick a number 50 bucks...That's USAC's money....then on race night, the Promoter and USAC go 80-20 or 70-30, with the Promoter getting the majority of the race night money. I think the Promoter should charge general admission price's for the web cast....How else can you watch USAC's best go wheel to wheel from the comfort of your own couch...20 bucks isn't to much to ask.....I'M IN....:32:

P.S.....Free is nice thouigh...:2:

I'll watch when I'm home as long as it is free. I wouldn't pay anything for it though.

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Originally Posted by SprintManDave:
I personally would rather see the races live, even if I have to drive an hour and a half to get there,but I am unable to attend this weekend due to illness and on meds that I am not supposed to be in the sun or heat,so I appreciate the webcast very much.

Dave, I hope you're okay!!!:(

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Originally Posted by Russ:
I'll watch when I'm home as long as it is free. I wouldn't pay anything for it though.

Thats the problem....most people want something...........FOR NOTHING...

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I would say like a 19.99 start up fee to get a user name and password.....that money would go to USAC.....then per event that you would like to watch..somewhere around 2.99 to 4.99 that would go to the Race Track....

Just throwing out an idea...

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Originally Posted by USAC Fan:
For someone who's so intune with the fans, why has Dave Rudisell never allowed live, full webcasts from L-Burg?

Several of us have asked and he;'s refused to answer.

I am against the free broadcasting of any short track racing be it on TV or Webcast. For many years short track racing has been sold a questionable idea that such things will put more people in the seats. Whether it be ABC's early days with the Hulman Classic, the Knoxville Nationals or Thursday Night Thunder; in the long run they generated very little new interest or new fan loyalty. Since this thread is specific to USAC I would respectfully make this suggestion. Many years ago Steve Sabol started a 30 minute TV highlight show called This Week in the NFL which in reality probably generated more new fan interest than the then televised Sunday games. Such a show with a compilation of exciting highlights from the three USAC divisions vying for the new National championship, participant profiles, track overviews, etc. would do much more to attract new fans. The webcasts, in particular, focus on an already established fan base.

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Originally Posted by captrat:
I am against the free broadcasting of any short track racing be it on TV or Webcast. For many years short track racing has been sold a questionable idea that such things will put more people in the seats. Whether it be ABC's early days with the Hulman Classic, the Knoxville Nationals or Thursday Night Thunder; in the long run they generated very little new interest or new fan loyalty. Since this thread is specific to USAC I would respectfully make this suggestion. Many years ago Steve Sabol started a 30 minute TV highlight show called This Week in the NFL which in reality probably generated more new fan interest than the then televised Sunday games. Such a show with a compilation of exciting highlights from the three USAC divisions vying for the new National championship, participant profiles, track overviews, etc. would do much more to attract new fans. The webcasts, in particular, focus on an already established fan base.

Great post and IDEA!

PS I'm against all live broadcasts.GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND GO TO YOUR LOCAL TRACK:16

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Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA:
Great post and IDEA!

PS I'm against all live broadcasts.GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND GO TO YOUR LOCAL TRACK:16

so your arse never stays at home an listens?? Will you be going to Burlington this coming weekend?

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
so your arse never stays at home an listens?? Will you be going to Burlington this coming weekend?

No never.

If the weather looks good I'll be there,If not I'll be at what ever track I think will get a race in;)

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I get to Indiana a few times a year ussually try to catch Gas City and a few others. We get traditional sprint cars 1 to 2 times a year here in Western Mo at the most. I travel to any within 300 miles or so plus the full TNT tour.

The web cast are great. But not worth full admission price, you miss too much you would see there. I don't always watch the front. Often I am watching a particular driver or just looking through the field for the best racing. With a webcast or TV show you are limited to what they want you to see.

If it came between web cast and going live being there wins hands down and I think about anyone else who would go would be the same way.

Look at baseball, football, basketball. It can be 100 degrees ot 0 outside and the game be on TV and the place will still sell out

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Originally Posted by Klepper:
Question: What would be an acceptable rate to pay to see that happen? $1.99 a race? $4.99??

If you can get consistent quality, I'd certainly pay $5-10. As someone who lives far enough away that I only get to a few shows a year, I'd rather pay a season subscription. I currently pay about $30/month to DirecTV to get the English and European soccer games, for which I get 15-20 games per week. (No, I don't watch them all.)

Now that I've read the other comments, I think the weekly show is a great idea.

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Dave has let them broadcast several USAC races from The Burg. I have personally seen them from my phone from the parking lot while at the track. Most smart promoters, Dave included, (although I'm not calling him smart. LOL) won't announce in advance that the race will be on the net. It would give fans an incentive to stay home if they KNEW it was going to be on the net for free. He has however several times allowed the races to be on. Maybe it was a last minute decision so that people wouldn't know in advance.

I can tell you this. I love the races on live, but If I was a promoter and knew it would definately cost me admission $$$ there is no way in hell I would tell people in advance that the race was going to be on for free. I might allow it occasionally to be done at the last minute as several tracks have done this year, but no way in hell am I going to let people know in advance.

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AERO410SCJA, and what would your suggestion be for those of us that had our local track (Manzy) closed down last year? Sometimes it isn't as simple as getting in your car and traveling to a new venue. Many people frequent this site and Usac's site from outside the Indiana area and can not travel to the races on a regular basis but are still USAC fans. In my opinion USAC still has too many bugs in their live broadcast for PPV. They have been providing the video for free from certain tracks, find sponsorship money to continue providing the video for free.

The midget week races they had video for sure didn't seem to effect the crowd from what I saw. I think if any of us had a choice we would rather be at
the races in person but many times cann't be. USAC provides a great service to those of us that wish we could be there and cann't when they live stream the races. Many of those viewers are family members or fans of the competitors who live to far away to attend the races on a weekly basis. I know my retirement income doesn't allow me to attend nearly as many races as I use to and USAC's live streaming is greatly appreciated.

Patti

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Amen Patti! I couldn't have said it better!!
Thank you so much to USAC, Dean and everyone involved in getting updates to all of us!:9::9:
I am very glad people who can, do go and support the tracks but like Patti said, some of us can't.

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I too greatly enjoy the broadcasts when I CAN'T make it to a track. For instance there are some tracks (like Gas City) that do not allow children in the pits. And since we do this sport as a family, and it is too difficult for me to occupy a one year old in the grandstands for an entire evening when all he wants to do is see the race cars up close, I simply don't go. If I can watch it at home AWESOME, if not (which is the case with this example) I understand. I WOULD pay a fee to watch races from home. I would NEVER simply not go to see a race live because of the reason "well I can watch it on my computer". There's no comparison, but for those of us that can't make it, or live across the country, it's an amazing option. You never know, you might have some people watch some sprint week races, from say, Arizona, and say man did you see those races at Kokomo and Putnamville and etc? We HAVE to go out for Sprint week next year! You never know, you may be able to pick up a few fans from this deal. The only thing I can't stand about the Live Broadcasts is the complaining. I have seen those guys bust their ass to try to give people a good broadcast. But they DON'T charge, and use what equipment and internet connections are available, and when it doesn't work, people get on here and complain like it is just OWED to them to get to see the best drivers in the country race for FREE. If you want the best quality and no glitches, go to the races, if you can't get there I am sorry, but at least you're not sitting around for your speed sport to come to even find out who WON. Those guys have taken a lot of grief, but yet continue to try to do what they can for you fans to see these races.

This is just my opinion.

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nothing like being there for sure. I will travel up to 200 miles usually on weekends...taking this weekend off and staying home though. I hope the Iowa double header with usac is on live. we spin the monitor to the window in the back yard, fire up the bon-fire, get the lawn chairs out and go racin! had a heck of a party when usac ran the big pavement track in Iowa. Really a great thing to have these days.
I thank USAC and Dean for their efforts.

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Due to health reason my dad can not make it to the track like he used to, the live feed lets him keep an eye on Josh from the comfort of his chair. Dad was a car owner and drove a push truck for years, if he had a choice he would rather be at the track instead of sitting in front of a monitor. Thank you very much for providing the webcasts for people like my dad that do not get around like they used too. :22:

Jerry #66j
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Originally Posted by IndyBound:
AERO410SCJA, and what would your suggestion be for those of us that had our local track (Manzy) closed down last year? Sometimes it isn't as simple as getting in your car and traveling to a new venue. Many people frequent this site and Usac's site from outside the Indiana area and can not travel to the races on a regular basis but are still USAC fans. In my opinion USAC still has too many bugs in their live broadcast for PPV. They have been providing the video for free from certain tracks, find sponsorship money to continue providing the video for free.

The midget week races they had video for sure didn't seem to effect the crowd from what I saw. I think if any of us had a choice we would rather be at
the races in person but many times cann't be. USAC provides a great service to those of us that wish we could be there and cann't when they live stream the races. Many of those viewers are family members or fans of the competitors who live to far away to attend the races on a weekly basis. I know my retirement income doesn't allow me to attend nearly as many races as I use to and USAC's live streaming is greatly appreciated.

Patti

MY suggestion would to be show them a day or two later, that way out of staters could watch but people that live with in driving distance would have to go to see it live.People look for reasons to stay home,that's why cable and satilite TV are so popular.

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I still vote for live streaming rather than tape delayed coverage.

Patti