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It has come to my attention that someone has been posing as me under the name of outsider. Once this issue was brought to my attention I tried to resolve the isue with the onwer of this site. He instead has continued to attach the actions of outsider to me. Those who do know me know I am not someone to act like that. I have found the posts the poser known as outsider has made and am absolutely appaulled by those actions. While I can get into heated arguments, I don't resort to tactics like that.

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Hmmmm.... I normally would not get involved in this but after this ****** day... I've had enough!

Your DirtyWhiteBoy account is in moderated status, it has been this way since late December 2009.... what this means is that all of your posts must be approved by myself or a moderator. The reason this was done is because I felt to many of your posts were intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site. As the owner of IOW, I have that right.

A couple days after I made this decision back in December you messaged me telling me you were done coming to IOW... then just a few days after receiving your message on January 2, 2010, an account was registered using the username "outsider", this account was registered using the same ip address as your Dirtywhiteboy account. This is fact!

During the registration of outsiders account, dirtywhiteboy was listed as the referrering member. This is fact!

Since January 2, 2010, outsider made posts from 21 different IP addresses.... 19 of those IP addresses show posts from both dirtywhiteboy's account and outsider's account. Many of the posts were intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site, and during that same time we never saw one single post from dirtywhiteboy.

On May 30, 2010... I had finally seen enough of outsider's posts that were again what I observed to be intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site... On that day I banned outsider for those actions. Shortly after banning him I received message after message from outsider telling me that I was running this site like communist ****** or ***** and that I had no right to ban him from this site. I am the owner of IOW... I do whatever I feel is in the best interest of this site, it's members, it's guests and future members.

And now on to June 3, 2010... just 4 days after outsider has been banned, dirtywhiteboy reappears after 6 months of being gone wanting to know why his posts are being moderated. Now am I the only one here that find this just a bit ironic.

This is just a tiny bit of information about why I think outsider and dirtywhiteboy are the same person and I haven't even mentioned the multiple registrant report or the multiple login report. These reports are automated and built in to my administrative side of IOW... they are very accurate. Members here that are husband and wife appear on this report almost daily. This is something I don't pay very close attention too... mainly because I have more important things to do with my time.

Now, since I've been accused of publicly and privately flaming(as he put it in his most recent email to me), I will let all of you be the judge of how I handled this situation along with making your own decision about whether or not these usernames are the same person. I've made up my mind. He is free to post but they will have to be approved by myself or another moderator. Once he shows he can post respectfully without being intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site, I will reconsider the status.

You know, I could get angry about this and say things I might regret later... but I am very comfortable saying that I think I handle a majority of the sensitive situations here appropriately.

I hope everyone enjoys Midget Week!!!:6:

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I think you handled it perfectly Bill.

If only handling Hayden was that easy! LOL j/k.

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
Hmmmm.... I normally would not get involved in this but after this ****** day... I've had enough!

Your DirtyWhiteBoy account is in moderated status, it has been this way since late December 2009.... what this means is that all of your posts must be approved by myself or a moderator. The reason this was done is because I felt to many of your posts were intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site. As the owner of IOW, I have that right.

A couple days after I made this decision back in December you messaged me telling me you were done coming to IOW... then just a few days after receiving your message on January 2, 2010, an account was registered using the username "outsider", this account was registered using the same ip address as your Dirtywhiteboy account. This is fact!

During the registration of outsiders account, dirtywhiteboy was listed as the referrering member. This is fact!

Since January 2, 2010, outsider made posts from 21 different IP addresses.... 19 of those IP addresses show posts from both dirtywhiteboy's account and outsider's account. Many of the posts were intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site, and during that same time we never saw one single post from dirtywhiteboy.

On May 30, 2010... I had finally seen enough of outsider's posts that were again what I observed to be intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site... On that day I banned outsider for those actions. Shortly after banning him I received message after message from outsider telling me that I was running this site like communist Russia or China and that I had no right to ban him from this site. I am the owner of IOW... I do whatever I feel is in the best interest of this site, it's members, it's guests and future members.

And now on to June 3, 2010... just 4 days after outsider has been banned, dirtywhiteboy reappears after 6 months of being gone wanting to know why his posts are being moderated. Now am I the only one here that find this just a bit ironic.

This is just a tiny bit of information about why I think outsider and dirtywhiteboy are the same person and I haven't even mentioned the multiple registrant report or the multiple login report. These reports are automated and built in to my administrative side of IOW... they are very accurate. Members here that are husband and wife appear on this report almost daily. This is something I don't pay very close attention too... mainly because I have more important things to do with my time.

Now, since I've been accused of publicly and privately flaming(as he put it in his most recent email to me), I will let all of you be the judge of how I handled this situation along with making your own decision about whether or not these usernames are the same person. I've made up my mind. He is free to post but they will have to be approved by myself or another moderator. Once he shows he can post respectfully without being intentionally unpleasant or disruptive to this site, I will reconsider the status.

You know, I could get angry about this and say things I might regret later... but I am very comfortable saying that I think I handle a majority of the sensitive situations here appropriately... Heck, I just gave up $3600/year in Google ads because they were potentially infecting member computers with malware.

I hope everyone enjoys Midget Week!!!:6:

So based off of the same IP address you assume I have done this? Because of being out of work and in an attempt to save my house I took in a roommate to help share expenses where I live back in November of 2009. Sadly that turned out to be a huge mistake on my part. I thought I could trust a close friend to help me out during a time I needed help but it seems I was very wrong.

Again I will publicly state that those who do know me know I don't resort to actions like that. You sir can do as you please, but until you really know the complete facts of situation, doing the assume thing; well you know what you get when you assume.

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I have enough problems of my own to worry about...

My decision has been made.

This will be the LAST POST ABOUT THIS! I will not address this again.

It is very simple.... You have 2 options.
#1 Accept the moderated status of your account and show that you will post in a respectful manner, then after several months I might reconsider the status.

#2 Never return to this site again.

Again, I will not go over this again... Your emails or PM's about this will not be answered.

If you post again about this, it will be removed.

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One word.........BUSTED

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Dirtywhiteoutsider.....looks like both hands are in the cookie jar.

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If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.......

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Your board, Bill....your rules......nuff said!

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Great job bill!!!!! This guy has always been a big negative. Finally got busted!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That's awesome. :5:
David.

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Bill OWNS the IOW site......its his call on what goes and what doesn't.

I'd be lost without IOW...I can't imagine spending all of the time and putting in all of the effort on this board that he does......He makes the rules just like when you work for someone.

Tim Wolffrum aka Cowboy

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Originally Posted by dirtywhiteboy:
It has come to my attention that someone has been posing as me under the name of outsider. Once this issue was brought to my attention I tried to resolve the isue with the onwer of this site. He instead has continued to attach the actions of outsider to me. Those who do know me know I am not someone to act like that. I have found the posts the poser known as outsider has made and am absolutely appaulled by those actions. While I can get into heated arguments, I don't resort to tactics like that.

Bud, you are truly "barking up the wrong tree"! And as far as him "assuming" things, heres what you could "assume" 1. IF your friend really did screw your account up, im sure you had enough messages and pm's to know what was going on.. Thus making you liable for him supposedly using your name.. 2 and if that is the truth, why TIME AFTER TIME did you continue to post, or "let HIM post" purely negative comments.. and lastly, If you still have access to this site, and can still have the option of posting things even being monitored you should have 0 complaints.. NONE! sounds like to me you want to go back to your "invisible friends" idea and basically try to trash the site.. If it were me, Id block you from the site for good.. and yes, Your pc can be blocked.. So try this, before jumping to your accusations.. PUMP THE BRAKES, and quit letting your mouth run wild!!! :22:

This is a good example of why I use my real name. It gets real easy to post irresponsibly if you hide behind a fake name.
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Originally Posted by 9racing:
Bud, you are truly "barking up the wrong tree"! And as far as him "assuming" things, heres what you could "assume" 1. IF your friend really did screw your account up, im sure you had enough messages and pm's to know what was going on.. Thus making you liable for him supposedly using your name.. 2 and if that is the truth, why TIME AFTER TIME did you continue to post, or "let HIM post" purely negative comments.. and lastly, If you still have access to this site, and can still have the option of posting things even being monitored you should have 0 complaints.. NONE! sounds like to me you want to go back to your "invisible friends" idea and basically try to trash the site.. If it were me, Id block you from the site for good.. and yes, Your pc can be blocked.. So try this, before jumping to your accusations.. PUMP THE BRAKES, and quit letting your mouth run wild!!! :22:

Damn!

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Ya don't mess with the Mighty Oz. Maybe "stupidwhiteboy" would have been a better screen name.:5:

Jerry

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I was thinking something else, but stupid probably sounds alot nicer. Go back to Midget Madness with your garbage. :42::

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Originally Posted by bullring:
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck.......

it might be an outsider? :3::3: :3: :3:

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Good job Bill! He's one of the worst troublemakers on this site.

Now about Superduke....:5::10::8:

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ooops and forgot to say. Hey Thanks for the kick a$$ site you continue to provide even when dealing with outside issues..

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This is an email I got today from you know who.

"I thank you for showing me just who I am: a much better person that doesn't need the drama or the treatment that IOW and most of it's members care to give out unchecked. It's sad that IOW couldn't admit they are wrong with the actions taken against me for no justifiable reason. Good day and may some you be able to admit IOW's actions are wrong and apologize for the damage you have done to me."

I don't need to apologize! I gave you a chance... now GOODBYE!!

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Damages? I'm an attorney. If I knew which name to chase you down with..........:5:

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No, I don't know Bill. Which one was it? Somehow or another, I doubt the drama is over.:2: We will hear from one of them again someday.

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He'll probably reach deep in his bag of tricks and come back as "insider" the next time.:10:

Jerry

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"I thank you for showing me just who I am: a much better person that doesn't need the drama or the treatment that IOW and most of it's members care to give out unchecked. It's sad that IOW couldn't admit they are wrong with the actions taken against me for no justifiable reason. Good day and may some you be able to admit IOW's actions are wrong and apologize for the damage you have done to me."

oh the HUMANITYYYYYYYYYYYYYY...lol maybe he could go pray to Burnt Butter Jesus! I'm not perfect, I admit I can be an a-hole sometimes but this guy and his alter ego deserve all the rotten things that happen to them/him.... and I add my thanks to you Mr. Gardner for this site and your efforts to keep it going, even if we a-holes tend to get carried away sometimes with our passions for our sport.

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Thanks Mr. Gardner

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Amen, and good night folks! just keep the 543976240398 different IP addresses and names/ alter egos and Email addys handy for one liner jokes and in case he gives this madness one more shot! lol

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Bill, thanks for all your time and effort providing us with such a great place to go to stay informed on open wheel racing. An thank you, thank you, thank you for keeping Mr. Negativity off the board. No matter what fictitious name he comes up with to try to sign in I have faith you will catch him and prevent him from spreading his negativity.

Patti

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Bottom line is your a pain in the ass so your gone!

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I'm behind you 100% in whatever you decide to do. All things considered... Life is too short for people like that being bone heads. :11;

I just wish I had his energy and time available.:3:

Don't let it twist you up and hit the cushion too hard. Stay focused on your important tasks at hand. :6:

George Wilkins

Here's to...
:35: and his new nose!

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Hey, Bill. Just a quick note of support of how you handled this. You know the old saying --

"Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty & only the pig really enjoys it."


Like countless others, I've always loved IOW. It's always been a great place to honestly interact w/great people w/a lot of knowledge & experience.

Thank you & keep on, keepin' on!!