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Anyone have any updates from the asct race at montpelier?

Still working the track.....12 or 13 sprint cars
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Does anyone know how many midgets are there and who is there in both divisions? Thanks in advance!

Patti

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anything yet?:2:

Well done gurley....taken ur money and running....30 min delay and still nothing on track with weather in the area
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Sitting out in the parking lot and they called the sprints for 30 mins now
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Just got a call they cut the purse too.
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Gurley is probally waiting for the rain to show up......... and if he cut the purse then i wonder what his loyal followers are going to say to defend that decision......

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Tmez won the sprint feature. It was stopped early due to rain. That's all the updates I received.

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What about the midgets? How many and did they get their feature in? Might be interesting to hear what a certain defender of gurley says.....

8 lap sprint feature...pushed out midgets that's about it
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And I need a new door and fender:15:I really need to drink more

what has gurley done wrong for so many of you to sour his attempt to improve sprintcar and midget racing ?
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The crew at Montpelier did a great job preparing the track surface and facility for the series. It was tacky and smooth. I wish the track would look at scheduling some sprint car races on selective dates.

They had 20ish midgets including a few 1000CC Mini sprints that race on the track with another series. Matt Westfall was the only double duty driver. Other notables I remember off hand were Brett Beachamp and John Heydenreich

In sprints, some of the Gas City drivers were Westfall, Welpott, Ott, Frederickson, and Meseraull in the Hazen 57. It started raining pretty good during the feature and they checkered flagged it.

I have no idea with Gurley and payments etc... It didn't seem like they were trying to take an intermission before the sprint feature. They were frantically calling the sprints to the chutes for 20-30 minutes until finally someone came to get started.

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I know T Mez reads this board.... I would like to hear what the racers at the track tonight have to say.....I was not there so I make no judgement....


CONGRATS T MEZ......x2

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*SPRINT RESULTS*

1st Heat:
1. 57 Thomas Meseraull
2. 10a Aric Gentry
3. wee3 J.T. Stapp
4. 82 Mike Miller
5. 41 Steve Ott
6. 48 Greg Wheeler

2nd Heat:
1. 58 Jamie Fredrickson
2. 28 Wil Nedderman
3. 18 Travis Welpott
4. 54 Matt Westfall
5. 14 Aaron Fry
6. 57r Danny Williams, Jr.
7. 1 Dave Gross

Feature:
1. 57 Thomas Meseraull
2. 58 Jamie Fredrickson
3. 41 Steve Ott
4. 28 Wil Nedderman
5. 54 Matt Westfall
6. 10a Aric Gentry
7. wee3 J.T. Stapp
8. 1 Dave Gross

25-lap feature was cut to 15 laps and then was cut to 8. Race was run in a monsoon. Several cars pulled off and most of the crowd left for their cars. Disappointing car count, but track was in very good condition until the rains came in the feature.

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*MIDGET RESULTS*

1st Heat:
1. 10 Brent Beauchamp
2. 57r John Heydenreich
3. 1x Scott Bradley
4. 74 Lynsey Tilton
5. 51 J.D. Parker
6. 25 Colin Parker
7. 4k Kevin Roberts, Sr.
8. 3 Rich Drangmeister

2nd Heat:
1. 21k Kurt Mayhew
2. 36 Collin Ambrose
3. 33a Steve Arnold
4. 47 Gary Loney
5. 4p Gary Bradley
6. 4j Greg Miller
7. 43 Bobby Jackson

3rd Heat:
1. 14 Matt Westfall
2. 39 Levi Roberts
3. 86 Andy Bradley
4. 1 Lynn Ambrose
5. 22r Kevin Roberts, Jr.
6. 10k Geoff Kaiser
7. 31 Buddy Lowther
8. 4r Nick Roberts

Feature:
Rained Out

They tried rushing the feature out after the sprint feature concluded, but several drivers pulled off and gave the thumbs down to the flagman that the track was not raceable. About 10 seconds after they threw the red, all hell broke loose and it was a mad scramble to the car for the fans. The weather was kind of frightening for about 20 minutes. Very high winds, heavy rain, and lightning everywhere.

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Observations:
The track was in good shape, but they should have started working it in sooner. The first Heat pushed off at 8:15, 45 minutes after the scheduled 7:30 start time.

Even after the track was ready and the opening ceremonies concluded, there was nothing lined up and no urgency, even with bad weather looming. This happened again following the Heats - nothing was ready and 15-20 minutes of down time occurred.

Seems that every race (except the Mods) took several laps to line up and finally get the 1 to go signal. Even the Sprint Feature, with lightning in the background and sprinkles starting to fall, took several laps before the flagman gave them 1 to go.

Anaylisis:
IF the show started on time and IF the races were lined up and ready to go in a timely manner, this entire program would have been completed before the rain came, barring an unforeseen incident of course.
Not sure who to blame for this, but it's disappointing to everyone involved.

JC

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Nimme where were you tonight and the rest of you, could of used you guys. This really hurt man. Jeff

High five to 58 Fredrickson on his finish, that was a steel block heat race win and a strong second in feature. Great job, Jamie!!!!!!!!!

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I will give my observations of tonight....

The track was really good and was fast. It took awhile to get it into shape to race. I think hot laps started around 7:30pm.

There were about 10 midgets and around 14 mini sprints for a total of 24 midgets. I give props to Gurly for allowing everyone to run the feature.

Before features it was announced that the midgets purse would be cut to 600 to win, 150 to start, reasoning was not enough people in the stands.

I never got a super good look, but it seemed like there was a decent group in the stands for a friday night and weather in the area.

The Midget feature was pushed off in the rain, and soon called. All midget drivers got a check for $200 and that was the night. Ended with a bunch of rain and everyone was super wet.

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Jeff your right one.....

YES a true waste of a half a tank of gas and $30....I will say, the track was in excellent shape, once it was ready, and the 8 lap A Main was awesome seeing T-Mez and Ott run those things in totally sideways... No one knew what was going on...They ran the sprints in the rain 8 laps, why not the 15 or 25? If your already running in rain? It let up as the checkered fell, then pushed, then rained more after they messed around deciding where to bring cars out pf what....An 8 lap A Main, for real....As fast as the laps was passing, the cut back to 15 would have been done in the amount of time they talked about bringin more cars out for another A. How can it be good enough for another A but, short change the 1st one???No chalk board, an official in the infield that carried 2 flags around, just to look important and do nothing. An a main lined up, they couldnt get right on the track, by the flagman, or the so called infield official. I have been to many many shows, and give people benefits of the doubt many times, but this group has alot and i mean a lot of improving to do. Also love the announcer saying how people have tried shutting them down already and they dont need big teams, big haulers, new tires for heats , and so on and was bragging how its for the lower teams like the 10 sprint car, and here comes the 10 car with a brand new sticker tire on for his heat, priceless!!! Why air differences over the PA? Dont worry, no one will shut you down, your doing an excellent job of it yourself after tonight and other events that have been posted on here....

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I'm glad I made the right decision :3: and went to the Sheldon Kinser Memorial :8: and not this show :15: congrats to T-Mez a wins a win :22:

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The normal Montpelier crew took care of their regular cars (the UMP Mods) using their weekly announcer, flagman, infield crew, pit crew, etc... It was the only class that were ready to roll as soon as the previous heat finished. The Montpelier crew has drastically changed the track and quality of the show over the past two years. It's to bad they allowed ASCT to rent the track from them for this debacle. Hopefully, most fans can seperate the two. The ASCT ran their portion of the show themselves (ASCT flagman, announcer, pit crew, etc...) and it showed.

Thanks to all the drivers and fans who ventured to the track last night. It had been since 2003 when Montpelier last had sprint cars on the track (and the winner of the majority of those races? Paul Hazen with Jon Stanbrough aboard)

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Sounds like there was more action in the parking lot.:14:

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Sorry, but I have to ask. What has been improved by a show like this? I know you can't control weather, but I just don't see any improvements to the sport yet. I do feel feel for Mr. Gurley as I am sure this adventure has probably not been cheap for him.

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I was there, and lets get one thing straight. IF hot laps would have started on time we wouldnt be arguing about anything. The races would have been over with some time to spare. Please dont blame Gurley for over watering the track and then not getting it run in until practice time was to start.

This is not a slam on Montpelier, as they tried to have a tacky track for the sprints and midgets. They just got a little carried away with it and that happens. It just so happened on a night with bad weather in the area. I hope Montpelier has more sprint and midget shows in the near future.

G

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G,
True on the watering the track BUT he had control of cutting the purse, not having any organization of the program at all, the lines-ups, getting the cars lined-up, cutting the A Main laps twice, officials having no clue, and an announcer thats boast how everyones out to get them and let them try because we are so great and blah blah blah......It wouldnt be so bad if they didnt have the we against the world attitude and then shoot themself in the foot over and over again and blame everyone else.......

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agreed

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G,
This dang rain sucks, was hoping to come over to the field tonight and watch you guys.....

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OK... Here we go again with a bunch of people that apparently have agendas that they want to air on IOW. I was at Montpelier last night with two midget entries. When I arrived mid afternoon the Monpelier officials (not ASCT/AMCT people) were working the track. The ASCT people arrived around 5:30 PM and had nothing to do with the track prep period. So let's get that out of the way first. The Monpelier officials over watered the track. Plain and simple. That happens. Therefore the program was delayed until the track was presentable. Again, this had nothing to do with ASCT.

Based on the last time I was at Montpelier, the present promoter has done a nice job with improvements: It looked like they had newer grandstands, buildings look dressed up, decent entrance way for the fans and most of all, the track surface seemed to be much improved. My cars didn't look like they had been in a civil war with rocks so that's a big plus as opposed to another well known track not too far away to the west (not Gas City). Once the track was run in, it was very smooth, another plus and a big improvement since I was there last.

To the person on IOW that commented about a sticker tire on my car: Maybe you've been living a remote cave somewhere, IDK, but race cars need tires occasionally, like just about everytime we race... DUH. It's really none of your business, but just to keep this person happy, the tire we ran at a previous AMCT race had some excessive wear, so we had to buy a new tire. Furthermore, the cost of the American Racer RR was LESS than the famous purple tires that dominant the racing scene. So again, we SAVED MONEY at this race meet. Do you have a problem with that? Maybe you'd like us to run on the rims for future races, IDK, but to come on and make a public comment on this message board about something that you know nothing about smacks of an agenda.

As far as the program/racing that took place: I arrived in the stands just before the first midget race and listened to the announcer and I didn't hear anything out of the ordinary. In fact, I thought he was doing a pretty good job. If he made comments that had something to do with saving money for racers, HURRAY!! Thank you. Isn't that refreshing to hear. Now I didn't watch all the races of the evening, but I did watch two of the three midget heats and as far as I'm concerned there was nothing usual that I observed. They were run off in rapid order just like most other races I've seen.

Once the racing got started, there certainly wasn't much down time. In fact we had to scramble to get ready for the feature. Unfortunately, the rains came big time and that ended the program.

Now, I did not hear about the midget purse being cut nor did I hear about $200 going to every midget team for the aborted program. If I have $200 coming for each of my cars, again, I say HURRAY! Thank you. That's a lot better than traveling to two other well know midget org races, not making the show, and leaving with $50. AND it's a lot better than the $30 payout, yes, you are reading that correctly, at the Tri-City Speedway/Kevin Gundaker midget promotion that offered $15,000 to win. ***.

In conclusion, I would like to say this and I've said it before on this site. Here we have a group that is trying to promote/revive midget racing in this area. Which is better.... no midget racing except against the ziillion dollar midget teams that are out of control or a series that is thinking out of the box. 21+ midget cars showed up at Montpelier. That's a milestone considering that midget racing (except for midget week) has been dead in Indiana for 10 years.

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First Don, once again you show why people dont get along with you. Was you the only 10 car there? NO, it was the 10 sprint car!!!! Glad to know more than 1 person bought a tire though since we heard all night how that group dont do that....You must of been on the pit end and couldnt hear the PA then.......Of course I forgot, you our the expert of ALL racing and music and we peons dont know jack, you know best. Sorry your royal king, may i be forgiven for not saying the 10 sprint car? You can support this group all you want too, I know as a fan, my $30 and gas money will go to watch another group. Of course maybe this new group dont need fans either since they dont need anything else but Don.

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Duane, the grandstands were $30?

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Ummm..... uh..... the grammar.....:13:

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After reading his post, he may want to spend that $30 on a Language Arts book instead of at a race track.......

I heard all the same kinds of stuff about 30 years ago when John Stiles was losing his shirt over the USAC Regional series.

Imagine. If Stiles had listened to all the 'experts' who criticized his operation Tony Stewart might still be begging TQ rides. The Kenyon Midget Series would never have produced the Chris Windoms, Bryan Clausons, Dakoda Armstrongs... and Ford Focus would still be only a compact car... the 16th Street Speedway would never have had all those cars to destroy... Thursday Night Thunder would've covering Australian Rules Football ...

This series has taken it on the chin from the first green flag. They've had to deal with bad weather and tough circumstances... We can only hope their pockets are deep enough to stick it out.
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Why do people argue with Mr. Moore, he knows all and he's so smart the rest of us pale by comparision.... So far Mr. Moore you've done little to advance this group and more to hurt it with the way you treat us "little people" (better known elsewhere as FANS) on this board, but what do we count, we're just fans...The same fans who are pretty much going to avoid this dog and pony show. Put down the other club all you want but them seem to be doing a heck of alot better job putting on races for us fans to enjoy. Let's compare what USAC has done this year to what this new club has done to promote and improve racing.... One more thing, Bloomington drew far more than 30 cars last night, this new group, in the heart of Indiana, with Gas City silent, drew 13. Makes me think the racers aren't believing or supporting it either, wonder why? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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You guys always make my day with the comps, bad grammar and all, and being off topic. Appreciate it!!

Thanks!

Don Moore

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Donald, you seriously didn't know/hear about a purse cut while you were at the track? And I'm having a hard time thinking that you left the facility last night without knowing/receiving your $200 per car???
Hard to pay for those tires/fuel/pitpass like that, eh? Just wondering....
Say hi to the puppies for me :2:

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As always you insult and don't address the fans and their concerns, again you're proving to be the PERFECT public mouthpiece for this racing group...lol. Enjoy your little group while we the FANS go watch USAC, KISS, MSCS and all the great weekly open wheel racing here in Indiana, seriously who needs this new group except someone who has wore out his welcome everywhere else.... sorry my grammer or whatever isn't perfect for you Mr. Jethro Bodine, errrr, Mr. Moore, sorry I get you certified geniuses confused sometimes! Keep up the good work of making the fans feel welcome at your races!!!!! lol

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I don't care what rules you have, what color your tire choice is, or how many classes you combine to prop up a division, when you advertise a purse you don't cut it halfway through the event. If the purse is going to be determined by the amount of fans in the stands that is fine just advertise it that way.

On the bright side it was a nice gesture for the teams to receive the $200.00 after the rains came.

Tim Clauson

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Let me first of all go on record by saying I do not know Mr Gurley, have never met the man. Nor have I talked to any of my friends that were there in competion since last nights race so my thoughts and comments are my own words.

First, when we ran another racing division in the Northeast usually the contract signed before the race would have to guarantee X number of race cars would show up if you did not show up with at least that number the purse would be cut. So maybe just maybe Mr. Gurley doesn't deserve the ranting of those in this thread who seem to be against what he is trying to do. Maybe if the purse was in fact cut it had nothing to do with attendance and what ever the contract stated.

Secondly, was I the only one that watched USAC's coverage of Wed. nights Speedrome race? There has been no one on IOW complaining about the fact that USAC ran a 7 car Ford Focus feature, a 4 car .25 feature, an 8 car midget feature or a 5 car young gun feature; or that they choose to cover the Speedrome rather than the Pa. race Wed. night. I wonder why no one is talking about that, anyone know why that is?

Thirdly, I wonder if the people that have been on IOW running Mr. Gurley down after every race he has tried to run this year even know the man? It wouldn't be the first time a mans reputation has been run down on this forum by people that have never even met the man.

Forthly, all of the negative comments about racing in the midwest, Eldora, THAT and Mr. Gurley's promotions this season have made me see red. Guess that is because I lost my home track last year, many of you know it as Manzy. Keep complaining, posting your negative thoughts until you have no one willing to own a race car or a race track.

Fifth, I guess like Mr. Rice I would like to hear what the racers have to say. Don Moore stepped up and told us his feelings anymore racers there last night have anything to say?

That's my two cents worth.

Patti

P. S. Mr Clauson, my comments about purse had nothing to due with your above post, I hadn't seen your post when I made that statement.

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Very well said Patti.

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