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I get why the teams who have cars and motors are upset. This should have been done in the off season and I thought one of the only good rules they had was the set back rule.

That said......This is where this series should have been from the start.(I know Keith will disagree with me on this).

As far as being worried about cheating....there already is/has been cheating in the series since it started. (Yes I mean the motors.)

I don't agree that it is a promotors job to get cars. It is the Sanctioning bodies job to supply enough cars so a promotor can have that tool available to bring in paying customers. It is their job to bring in the people to cover the purse.

I'd say it's probably too little too late, but it is in my opinion the right move.

What is the rule change?
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Ever see how a chicken flops around for awhile after its head has been cut off? The bird is dead, only there are some parts of it that just aren't aware of that fact just yet.

Now I would maintain that I was not the guy with the axe, and that if I had my choice we would have kept the old bird laying eggs. But, I know a dead chicken when I see one.:6:

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What happened to the original post, or was I just imagining things, like "open" motor parts, salvage yard motors, built by whomever, kinda like a "stock appearing"? Guess it was wishfull thinking! Bob

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Sounds to me like the ol Chicken is choking on some sour grapes.


I don't even know what the new rules are but I am confident they are a step in the right direction. Lord knows I tried to get things changed back in the day.

And I agree with Scott, there has been cheating, and cheating from day one. I can recall the day a handful of West Coast cars unloaded at Lincoln Park Speedway, and one car who shall remain nameless only had one freggin seal on it. I was told to let him run since he had traveled so far. :10:

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Eric,

Let me get this straight... You don't even know what the new rules are, yet you are confident that they are an improvement. Is this the same Eric P I knew? For that matter, are we talking about the same sanctioning body?

Far as sour grapes go... maybe 2-3 years ago but not these days. Sour grapes happen when you think things aren't going the right way, and you believe you could have done something about it. That was the case 2-3 years ago.

And as far as the cheating thing - you are absolutely correct. The only reason any of those guys from the west coast are any good at all is that they cheat like crazy. Carolina guys too. Also the Washngton, Utah, Pennsylvania and Oklahoma guys. In fact, the only racers I know of that never cheat, or do ANYTHING wrong, are the Indiana boys. I agree Eric. Under the supreme leadership of your sanctioning body and the flawlwss integrity of your competitors, Midget racing has flourished like never before. Thank god for Indiana
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Don't sour grapes turn onto wine? Or was it Olive Oil?

As far as your veiled jab at my Supreme Leadership you must have been referring to the other Eric. I bailed when I wasn't allowed to right the wrongs, beit rules or caught rules infractions. And yes that would be Indiana rules infractions too.

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Now THATS the EP I knew...

PS... www.thrillerphoto.com

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Good race.....Can get them sideways(A little....alot of pushing due to under hp and getting in too hard....looks like they have to overdrive the corner because straight line speed is down and with no torque)

Farmers should like them because they sound like tractors.(Actually alot like a four cycle bike. Need to get that fixed because that sounds like poo.)

Not a bad show, about like a sportsman car....Not a midget though.(I know...it's not suppossed to be....but then it's advertised as the future of Midget Racing. I'm confused)

Kidding aside....looked good, a little better than the Focus cars.

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'Edge, coming from you I will take that as a compliment, and I appreciate it. I will admit they have a different sound - twin cams with 50 degrees each of variable cam timing will do that. I agree that what you hear off of the camcorder is not great but after all its a camcorder. One statement that you made was just incorrect - these cars possess a respectable torqe curve (variable cam timing). This is what allows those guys to run the top, and when they get a bite its what affords them the blue sky view out the cockpit.

You are correct in stating that our specific goal was not to create a Midget killer. These days, that title seems to only serve to ratchet up the engine war another notch, and anyway, it only seems to last about five minutes until the NEXT "Midget Killer" comes on line.

We are happy with where we are on the ASCS Midget. If you look at the photos you will see several examples of the cars able to hoist the front wheels off the corner, and we have already recorded several top ten and a few top five finishes among Midget groups that must be regarded as a clear step above "sportsman" such as BCRA and USAC/SMRS. This weekend we will have Richard Kriesel entering his ECOtec in what I would consider to be a true "sportsman" event with the OMMS. Richard ran middle-of-the-pack at the all ECOtec ASCS event at Creek County last Friday. Lets just see how he does with this sportsman group...

I hope I can get one out your way at some point this season so you can see it go in person. Take care.

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Did I miss the rule, or something?

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UPDATE: For Mr 'Edge and ayone else interested in the RRE Chevy ECOtec program. Last night Richard Kriesel took his ASCS legal RRE ECOtec to the OMMS Sportsman Midget race and ran SECOND with it.

In addition, out on the west coast Dillon Silverman piloted his ASCS Legal RRE ECOtec to a 4th place finish in BCRA Midget Action. Finally, last week young rookie Cory Mallo brought his ASCS legal ECOtec Midget home 5th in RMMRA competition. Again - we never meant for this product to run head to head with Midgets featuring almost 40 more cubic inches (and another twenty grand or more) under the hood, but its pretty darn cool to see that they can dance with the big girls.

Congratulations to all - more details to follow.

Keith Iaia
RRE
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