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What Great Racers are going to be at North Vernon. They are paying pretty good this weekend. Come check it out.

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At a glance. Her is quick list.

Sprints: Mitch Wissmiller,Jt Stapp,Al Thomas,Craig Budde,Korey Weyant,Kent Christian,Aric Gentry,Landon Simon,Danny Williams,Jesse Cramer,Rick Vaughn,Tyler Hewitt,Jamie Fredrickson,Blake Nimee,Josh Webb,Ray Kenens,Zach Cougille,Shawn Krockenberger,Eric Krockenberger,Darrin Krockenberger,Jack Shipman,Dickie Gains,Jr Douglas,Kyle Krockenberger.

Midgets: Lynsey Tilton, Brent Beauchamp,Seth Metzinger,Joe Ligouri,Kurt Mayhew,

I have several more to post in each class and will try to do so today with an official entry list. If you havn't contacted me then please do so so i can get the entire list posted.

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I would like to invite all of you to our season opener this Saturday night at the Twin Cities Raceway Park in North Vernon In. We would love to have you and your team join us for this inaugural event to help us kick off the 2010 season. Our American Racer MC3 Spec tire has been reduced to $155.00 to help curb the cost for the racers that plan on joining us. We will also be reducing the cost of our VP fuel along with our American Racer Midget tires. I hope to see you at the ASCT season opener.
Thank You. John Gurley
SPRINTS:
$2000,1000,725,625,525,450,425,400,375,350,325,300 ,275,(14-20) 250.
MIDGETS:
$1500,625,500,450,400,350,325,300,275,250,225,(12-20)200.
AND AS ALWAYS THERE IS A $100 GUARANTEDD TOW FOR BOTH CLASSES!!!!
www.americansprintcartour.com
(812) 420-1973

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I hope its cash on the barrell head..

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Nerf I thought you were paying everyone; what the Heck man HA! HA! Jeff just bsing man its covered ok don't worry we wont borror from UUUUUUU... Jeff

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Originally Posted by NERFBAR:
I hope its cash on the barrell head..

Are you racing with us? If so let me know so I can put you on our list.

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it's a legit question, are you paying cash to the racers night of event? will you have the cash in hand before the event begins? You've made so many statements in public on this forum then you should be more than willing to answer legit questions on here.....

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I am interested in seeing the midget list. Are those you currently have listed full midgets or wingless mini-sprints? Also, it might be a good idea to spell their names right - Lynsey Tilton, Joe Ligouri. Is that Seth Metzinger? Frederickson, Cougill, Krockenberger. Just to help you.

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Man, tough crowd in here...

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Originally Posted by Geoff Kaiser:
Man, tough crowd in here...

Always....

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Originally Posted by racerdog45:
it's a legit question, are you paying cash to the racers night of event? Will you have the cash in hand before the event begins? You've made so many statements in public on this forum then you should be more than willing to answer legit questions on here.....

thank you im glad someone is understanding...will you pay by cash or check..or take it and run .at the end of the night:20:

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Do you guys think the Tri state race might take some of the midgets away from this event? or are they just non-winged mini sprints?

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Originally Posted by john3g:
Always....

Geees, I think you need to at least give the guy a chance, some of you sound like you hope he doesn't make it, damn, I don't see anyone else stepping out of the box, or maybe I should call it a ring! C'ome on now, give the guy some air, he doesn't need all this heat on his mellon, and at least so far, I don't think he deserves it, there are a lot of guys, hoping this is a go, especially with both Midgets and Sprints, maybe even DD, and I don't mean Dave Darland, could even appreciate a night of open wheel racing! JMHO! Bob:2:

I guess it makes it complicated to have an open mind when they dance around the question about paying CASH or CHECK or IOWEU. I hope these guys do well. However, it would be a good idea to get the answer in writing by the series leader in case you ended up with a Kemper Arena situation. I hope that this is not going to be the case, but anytime something is new people are skiddish. Ease everyone's mind Mr. Gurley, how are you paying the purse?
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Originally Posted by MEAT:
I guess it makes it complicated to have an open mind when they dance around the question about paying CASH or CHECK or IOWEU. I hope these guys do well. However, it would be a good idea to get the answer in writing by the series leader in case you ended up with a Kemper Arena situation. I hope that this is not going to be the case, but anytime something is new people are skiddish. Ease everyone's mind Mr. Gurley, how are you paying the purse?
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Call him up and ask him if it's that big of a deal, his phone number is all over IOW and the ASCT website. He's rented the track, so he's paid that money. Last year when he took over SCORA, we still were paid cash and I can attest , was never shorted one dime!

Trust me....I know for a fact the money is there.....so if you choose to attend, then go win some of it. And it is CASH!

Originally Posted by mscs20:
Call him up and ask him if it's that big of a deal, his phone number is all over IOW and the ASCT website. He's rented the track, so he's paid that money. Last year when he took over SCORA, we still were paid cash and I can attest , was never shorted one dime!

Trust me....I know for a fact the money is there.....so if you choose to attend, then go win some of it. And it is CASH!

Their website is not Blackberry friendly and it will be a while before I get around a computer to get it. Besides I would like to see it in writing from his username. I am not trying to be an *******, I just want an honest answer in writing from the man himself. I give them the credit for going outside of the box, and I hope this deal is a success for the budget racers out there. I just want an answer to a question. Not an explanation from someone unaffiliated with the series. No offense to you MSCS 20, and no offense to the series or the people involved. Just looking for a simple answer.
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Originally Posted by MEAT:
Their website is not Blackberry friendly and it will be a while before I get around a computer to get it. Besides I would like to see it in writing from his username. I am not trying to be an *******, I just want an honest answer in writing from the man himself. I give them the credit for going outside of the box, and I hope this deal is a success for the budget racers out there. I just want an answer to a question. Not an explanation from someone unaffiliated with the series. No offense to you MSCS 20, and no offense to the series or the people involved. Just looking for a simple answer.
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Affiliated???????? I am a member, owner/driver AND a sponsor. I called John personally to be sure nothing had changed and it is still cash. And he said he PM'd those who had asked before he logged off. Why is there any doubt? Any question the Eldora, Gas City, Waynesfield series that isn't a series about how they pay? Or Hammer on the IL Sprint Series next month?

Excuse me, I had no idea you were a sponsor/owner/driver. I am not here to argue, as you can read by me saying no offense. The only people I knew of affiliated with the series were Gurley and Stapp. I just wanted an answer not a pi$$ing match. I don't know about those other series, I assumed they were organized by the promotion groups behind each facility. I am not worried about those series because the team I help runs southern Indiana. I respect your confidence in the ASCT and I hope it is a success.
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I was serious about my midget question. Not trying to be a smartass. How many full midgets are we looking at, and how many mini-sprints will fill out the field?

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To all the racers that are interested in running with us the purse will be paid in cash.Now whats next?? All are welcome to call me. I still think that with most of the nay say'ers there isn't anything that will change their displeasure with our deal and thats why I chose NOT to reply. No one has called me about this but thats typical of some on here. Some are trying there hardest to pick anything they can to bash us. They can't bash the purse so they start to hunt for something else but thats the way it is. Next it will be the guys that run with us. Whats sad is that most of bashers wouldn't consider us regardless.I want to thank all the racers and all the fans that understand whats going on and why we're doing this and thank god theres been more positive then negative although some of you have done your best to put the negative spin on our series.Like I've been told,with every negative post that is put on here it just shoves this thread right to the top.So anyway if any of you have any question feel free to call. (812) 420-1973. I have tried to respond through the PM method but that doesn't seem to work because then I'm accused of hiding out and if I post,well, then I'm told I either post to much or I'm unprofessional.Welcome to racing in Indiana I guess.

Up to 24 confirmed sprints now with 4 that will let me know Weds and we have 16 full midgets plus 4 VW cars, plus 3 focus cars and 7 1000cc mini's. Not bad for a nothing,meaningless and I believe the word was insignificant series.Did I miss one? We offer a choice,thats it,no more no less,just a choice.It's up to you the racer and whats best for you. All I ask is that you take a look at our purse structure and make a comparison and then call your play.

SPRINT CARS:
1.)MAY 8TH. TWIN CITIES IN. 25 LPS
$2000,1000,725,625,525,450,425,400,375,350,325,300 ,275,(14-20) 250

Midgets MAY 8TH TWIN CITIES RCWY
$1500,625,500,450,400,350,325,300,275,250,225,(12-20)200.

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mscs20(Steve), Get your story straight. John Gurley did not take over SCORA in 2009. All purses and expenses were paid by me and I closed SCORA because of lack of help and interest. ASCT is a complete new group and I have nothing to do with it. Sam Stockon Sr.

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Originally Posted by john3g:
To all the racers that are interested in running with us the purse will be paid in cash.Now whats next?? All are welcome to call me. I still think that with most of the nay say'ers there isn't anything that will change their displeasure with our deal and thats why I chose NOT to reply. No one has called me about this but thats typical of some on here. Some are trying there hardest to pick anything they can to bash us. They can't bash the purse so they start to hunt for something else but thats the way it is. Next it will be the guys that run with us. Whats sad is that most of bashers wouldn't consider us regardless.I want to thank all the racers and all the fans that understand whats going on and why we're doing this and thank god theres been more positive then negative although some of you have done your best to put the negative spin on our series.Like I've been told,with every negative post that is put on here it just shoves this thread right to the top.So anyway if any of you have any question feel free to call. (812) 420-1973. I have tried to respond through the PM method but that doesn't seem to work because then I'm accused of hiding out and if I post,well, then I'm told I either post to much or I'm unprofessional.Welcome to racing in Indiana I guess.

Up to 22 confirmed sprints now with 6 that will let me kow Weds and we have 16 full midgets plus 4 VW cars, plus 3 focus cars and 7 1000cc mini's. Not bad for a nothing,meaningless and I believe the word was insignificant series.Did I miss one? We offer a choice,thats it,no more no less,just a choice.It's up to you the racer and whats best for you. All I ask is that you take a look at our purse structure and make a comparison and then call your play.

SPRINT CARS:
1.)MAY 8TH. TWIN CITIES IN. 25 LPS
$2000,1000,725,625,525,450,425,400,375,350,325,300 ,275,(14-20) 250

Midgets MAY 8TH TWIN CITIES RCWY
$1500,625,500,450,400,350,325,300,275,250,225,(12-20)200.

Just keep up the good work John. Forget the na-sayers. If this works out like I think it will this should give you somthing to shove in their pie-hole. Some people will b!t#$ at anything to get their way.
:22::33: Cheers:32:

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I see that out of all the people who enjoy coming on a public message board and ambusing a series that hasn't even begun yet, only one posted their identity. Don't give these people the time of day.

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Originally Posted by MEAT:
Excuse me, I had no idea you were a sponsor/owner/driver. I am not here to argue, as you can read by me saying no offense. The only people I knew of affiliated with the series were Gurley and Stapp. I just wanted an answer not a pi$$ing match. I don't know about those other series, I assumed they were organized by the promotion groups behind each facility. I am not worried about those series because the team I help runs southern Indiana. I respect your confidence in the ASCT and I hope it is a success.
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Now I'm curious. Is the team you help planning to support the new series by attending the ASCT opening night at Twin Cities Raceway this Saturday night? If so, I understand your question and concern. If not? I don't get it.


I have been involved in racing for over thirty years and hear the same complaints week after week. "The racers who take all the risks and put on the show aren't being paid enough." This new series is stepping up to the plate and addressing that complaint by paying deeper into the field than almost any other midwestern weekly track or regional series. I would rather see the money spread throughout the field instead of being piled into the winners share. I see some great racing throughout the field and those guys have the same expenses as the winner.

The only way this deal will survive is if the racers who have been doing the complaining about the purse being piled on top and not being spread deeper through the field support it. I for one am willing to give it a chance before making judgement.

I will be there to support this series for their opening night because I believe the racers aren't getting paid enough for the entertainment they provide and the risks they take. I want this series to survive for that reason and for the fact this is the only place in the area the steel block cars can race against the aluminum block cars where the aluminum cars have a minimum weight rule.

I decide where I go each week and this Saturday I will be at Twin Cities Raceway in North Vernon along with the majority of the push truck crew who pushes at Bloomington Speedway every Friday night. (And I don't mind signing my name to my posts.)

Joe Chambers
Official Push Trucks

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Originally Posted by SamSr1:
mscs20(Steve), Get your story straight. John Gurley did not take over SCORA in 2009. All purses and expenses were paid by me and I closed SCORA because of lack of help and interest. ASCT is a complete new group and I have nothing to do with it. Sam Stockon Sr.

As a side note, I would like so say Sam started this series as a completely totally steel block effort. As a LAST DITCH COMPLETELY FINAL effort... he changed to open engines to make sure he could finish his year and pay the racers purse.

So Sam, kudo's....however this whole Strictly Steel to begin with and all of the change "to anyone come one please come" before the season even starts just seems like another squirrel trying to find his nut. That's all.

Either way there will be racing, but in the end... you stated it was a Steel Block series... in the end.. it isn't and it is that idea people still have. A Statement is just that.

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I thought the original post was asking who would be there to race.

I will be there to spectate.

If you have a question about how the purse is to be paid, why don't you start your own thread, instead of hijacking one that was started in good faith?

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Originally Posted by Eagle14:
As a side note, I would like so say Sam started this series as a completely totally steel block effort. As a LAST DITCH COMPLETELY FINAL effort... he changed to open engines to make sure he could finish his year and pay the racers purse.

So Sam, kudo's....however this whole Strictly Steel to begin with and all of the change "to anyone come one please come" before the season even starts just seems like another squirrel trying to find his nut. That's all.

Either way there will be racing, but in the end... you stated it was a Steel Block series... in the end.. it isn't and it is that idea people still have. A Statement is just that.

This is the first time I've been called "a squirrel trying to find his nut." The thing is you have been against our deal regardless if it was a steelblock or not. You may want scroll down and see the growing list of names.But again like I said right to the top...

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My only thought is that John had better pay the posted purse, in full, or he'll be lit up like a Christmas tree. And while I wish him well, I've been around too long and heard/seen too many stories where promoters/organizers cheated the racers' and the fans.... in one way or another.

Oh, and I agree that the original "steel block" portion of the series will quickly go away....the aluminum block guys will probably dominate.....

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Originally Posted by sprinter25:
My only thought is that John had better pay the posted purse, in full, or he'll be lit up like a Christmas tree. And while I wish him well, I've been around too long and heard/seen too many stories where promoters/organizers cheated the racers' and the fans.... in one way or another.

Oh, and I agree that the original "steel block" portion of the series will quickly go away....the aluminum block guys will probably dominate.....

Does this mean you'll be there?? Can I put you on the list?

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I can tell you that John is working hard to create special awards for the Steel Block participants who show their support to the series....

Now....Hopefully we can get back to what this thread was started for....Let the racers SHOUT OUT and let their fans know they will be not only supporting the ASCT, but also Twin Cities and the fans who love sprint car and midget racing in that area.....

Originally Posted by sprinter25:
My only thought is that John had better pay the posted purse, in full, or he'll be lit up like a Christmas tree. And while I wish him well, I've been around too long and heard/seen too many stories where promoters/organizers cheated the racers' and the fans.... in one way or another.

Oh, and I agree that the original "steel block" portion of the series will quickly go away....the aluminum block guys will probably dominate.....

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My only question ,is why are they running 4 other classes, and are the sprints and midgets going to be first or last.

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Originally Posted by john3g:
Up to 24 confirmed sprints now with 4 that will let me know Weds and we have 16 full midgets plus 4 VW cars, plus 3 focus cars and 7 1000cc mini's. Not bad for a nothing,meaningless and I believe the word was insignificant series.Did I miss one? We offer a choice,thats it,no more no less,just a choice.It's up to you the racer and whats best for you. All I ask is that you take a look at our purse structure and make a comparison and then call your play.

Thank you! That's all I wanted to know. Not sure why anyone else would have a problem with that question...for those of us who remember Mike Fulper over the years, it's a legitimate question!

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Originally Posted by SprintManDave:
My only question ,is why are they running 4 other classes, and are the sprints and midgets going to be first or last.

That was the deal we made to get the track.Hope to see you there..

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Good luck this weekend to all!

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This group is doing something that has been needed for a long time by spreading the pay deeper into the field.

They are also addressing the complaint I have heard voiced by many track owners and promoters about the Midgets. I have heard many times in the past commonts to NOT do programs with Midgets because you will loose money. The ASCT is offering several events that are running both classes. This is good for the Midgets, the Sprints, and the fans. I believe this will grow into quite a series.

I am supporting ASCT in as many events as my work schedule will allow. I will be there on Saturday to help this series every way I can. I will be very visible as as proactive as I can helping this new series accomplish their dream of putting races the drivers will want to race in and the fans will want to see.

See you at the races and give a toot on your horn when you see me on the road.

Tim Chambers aka PUSHEN

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Originally Posted by GOFOBROKE:
I can tell you that John is working hard to create special awards for the Steel Block participants who show their support to the series....
Now....Hopefully we can get back to what this thread was started for....Let the racers SHOUT OUT and let their fans know they will be not only supporting the ASCT, but also Twin Cities and the fans who love sprint car and midget racing in that area.....

OK - Now we're talking. This is exactly what is needed to "earn" the support of the steel block folks. Sprint Bandits is paying an additional $500 to the highest finishing 360, at least for this Texas/Arkansas swing. We missed it by one position Saturday night (I knew I should have made that gear change, dammit).

Additional recognition/rewards will help sway our decision as to where we race week-to-week. The additional should, however, be awarded at each race rather than only a season ending award.

Tim Simmons

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Originally Posted by quicktime3:
I am interested in seeing the midget list. Are those you currently have listed full midgets or wingless mini-sprints? Also, it might be a good idea to spell their names right - Lynsey Tilton, Joe Ligouri. Is that Seth Metzinger? Frederickson, Cougill, Krockenberger. Just to help you.

Agree.

Also, it's Dickie Gaines not Gains. Just sayin'.

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My betting dollars would be on one of the DM stable of midget cars to clean house at this event.

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Lets say he's not waiting until Wednesday to send you a check in the mail man. Got it Get it GOOOOOOOD.

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Originally Posted by sprinter25:
My only thought is that John had better pay the posted purse, in full, or he'll be lit up like a Christmas tree. And while I wish him well, I've been around too long and heard/seen too many stories where promoters/organizers cheated the racers' and the fans.... in one way or another.

Oh, and I agree that the original "steel block" portion of the series will quickly go away....the aluminum block guys will probably dominate.....

JOHN promissed if the alum guys run off with the show that additional changes would be made. So just hang on for the ride guys, we are. Jeff Sweat
This isn't a bash at you either John I'm just waiting to see how things go..And hoping foe the best.

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Tough crowd here. This use to be an enjoyable forum, but apparently some people on here need som Prozac.

This guy is sticking his neck out to promote a series in one of the worst economic times in history. Hats off to him for even including the midgets, which have all but gone away in recent years. Let him get in a few shows and see what he has to offer.

Do some of you naysayers forget that potential sponsors may read this site? After reading some of these posts, why would any business owner want to spend money on sprint car racing? I would make a wild guess and say that those complaining either do not even own a racecar, or if they do it has not a single sponsor decal on it. Lets be positive about this! Sounds like a great option to me, and the pay is very strong!

The steel block option is great for a modified racer to move up without breaking the bank. Looks to me like John has quite the recipe for affordable racing that someone could actually make some decent money, even if he ran mid pack. And some of the venues are really neat race tracks too.

Give this series a chance!

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Originally Posted by michiganmadman:
Tough crowd here. This use to be an enjoyable forum, but apparently some people on here need som Prozac.

This guy is sticking his neck out to promote a series in one of the worst economic times in history. Hats off to him for even including the midgets, which have all but gone away in recent years. Let him get in a few shows and see what he has to offer.

Do some of you naysayers forget that potential sponsors may read this site? After reading some of these posts, why would any business owner want to spend money on sprint car racing? I would make a wild guess and say that those complaining either do not even own a racecar, or if they do it has not a single sponsor decal on it. Lets be positive about this! Sounds like a great option to me, and the pay is very strong!

The steel block option is great for a modified racer to move up without breaking the bank. Looks to me like John has quite the recipe for affordable racing that someone could actually make some decent money, even if he ran mid pack. And some of the venues are really neat race tracks too.

Give this series a chance!

I would say most of the naysayers don't even own or drive a sprint or midget. :22: