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dirtshirt 12/14/09 5:10 PM

Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
Looks like hard racing.You can deside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS9WJ_db_H8

quicktime3 12/14/09 5:17 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
Looked like he chopped his front end out to me.

slide22 12/14/09 5:26 PM

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Swindell did a dirty slide job, making Ricky lift so he didn't run him over, then it looks like he chopped at his front end..jmo

BrentTFunk 12/14/09 5:32 PM

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Couldn't believe that was the ditch. When I was there it didn't begin to slick off like that. Slicked off from top to bottom, yuk.

Geoff Kaiser 12/14/09 5:40 PM

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Looked ok to me. He easily cleared him on the slide job, and just came off the wall a little bit coming down the straightaway when the car started to wing over. Try driving one sometime, they really like to go left!

Pat O'Connor Fan 12/14/09 5:51 PM

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betcha he wouldn't have done that $hit to Jack Hewitt :26:

Panama 12/14/09 5:57 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
The nickname "Slammin Sammy" ring a bell?
He earned that name, and not by "accidents"!

john3g 12/14/09 6:09 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
Looked like elbows up, hard racing to me. Good or bad slide jobs are part of the game. I've seen several done by both drivers. Thanks for posting it. Good stuff.
I was suprised that there was passing at all at a wing show. You don't see that to often anymore.

darnall 12/14/09 6:19 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
The slider was clean but....

You move off the wall like that NOT because the car was pulling hard left, but because you know the car you just slid is crossing over and coming under you.

Sammy came down the front straight the previous 2 laps and stayed right on the fence..he moved left to block that time.

Stenhouse was visible beside him early in the straight, then just when Sammys momentum carried him a little ahead he chopped him, plain and simple.

i doubt if he "Intentionally" knocked Rickys front end out but he "Intentionally" chopped down on him.

And yes, they are hard to drive...I know because I have done it about 35 times (a few of which were successful, haha)...but they don't tend to jerk left in the middle of the straightaway...when they wing over they drive off the left rear which makes the car want to pull to the right.

Russ 12/14/09 8:16 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
Good hard racing. The faster and better driver won.

Rex W. 12/14/09 10:35 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 

Originally Posted by Pat O'Connor Fan:
betcha he wouldn't have done that $hit to Jack Hewitt :26:

LOL Yeah he would hell he's done it a few times.

Whos the guy that seems to hit the wing & then high tail it out of there & then runs over to help his buddy thats looks to be getting his face punched in LOL

Choco 12/14/09 11:44 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
Ricky Jr. hits the wing and then runs over to help Ricky SR. who is being punched on the ground.

never lift 12/16/09 2:22 AM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
that is just another typical sammy racing deal and this is another reason why he is not very well liked in racing

RGardner 12/16/09 5:20 AM

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that was a racing deal for sure! you watch any race during the year and you can realize that! You guys are just a bunch of swindell haters...Looks like little Ricky needs a attitude adjustment to me...

6565 12/16/09 7:52 AM

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Originally Posted by slide22:
Swindell did a dirty slide job, making Ricky lift so he didn't run him over, then it looks like he chopped at his front end..jmo

That was a textbook slidejob! Nowhere has it ever been said that if you make the guy getting slid lift that it's a dirty move. While I don't like to make it a habit of sliding people and have it end up quite that close, I'll do it in a heartbeat if necessary. And I don't ***** when it happens to me. Just do like Stenhouse did- lift and/or jab the brakes and turn back under him. It was a perfect move/countermove in my opinion. I'm just talking about the turn 3 & 4 part. And on the frontstretch, Sammy did nothing wrong in my opinion-he did come down a little to squeeze Stenhouse some (to block a slider), but didn't appear to be intended to take him out. ***** happens, move on to the next race.

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Seems ironic that most of the drivers on here thought it was ok, but non-drivers didn't. Just an observation.

Shawn 12/16/09 9:44 AM

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Personally, I don't think it was a bad move, but poorly executed. Stenhouse was far enough beside him, plus it looked a little sudden, or jerky. There's no way Ricky has enough time to move. The slide job isn't the issue, since Sammy gave Ricky plenty of room.

Ricky was mad and that's to be expected. Should he have punched Sammy's wing as he drove by? No. However, good ol' Sammy running his mouth in the Victory Lane interview was uncalled for. If he wants to tell Ricky what he thinks, do it to his face. That's pretty much what caused the whole mess.

These type of things don't just "find" the Swindell's, you know...

c47 12/16/09 11:52 AM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
stenhouse was crowding swindell up at the wall.
1) did he think that swindell was gonna roll over for him...highly unlikely
2) where did he think swindell was gonna go....he couldnt turn right
3) if nothing broke on stenhouse's car, we wouldnt be having this discussion. ;)

never lift 12/16/09 2:51 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
sammy's slide job in 3 & 4 was clean and stenhouse made a good counter move on the slider. to me it looks like sammy knew stenhouse had a run on him getting into 1 so he just decided the only way he could beat him getting in was to turn down on stenhouse.

slide22 12/16/09 3:29 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 

Originally Posted by 6565:
That was a textbook slidejob! Nowhere has it ever been said that if you make the guy getting slid lift that it's a dirty move. While I don't like to make it a habit of sliding people and have it end up quite that close, I'll do it in a heartbeat if necessary. And I don't ***** when it happens to me. Just do like Stenhouse did- lift and/or jab the brakes and turn back under him. It was a perfect move/countermove in my opinion. I'm just talking about the turn 3 & 4 part. And on the frontstretch, Sammy did nothing wrong in my opinion-he did come down a little to squeeze Stenhouse some (to block a slider), but didn't appear to be intended to take him out. ***** happens, move on to the next race.

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Seems ironic that most of the drivers on here thought it was ok, but non-drivers didn't. Just an observation.

I am a driver, and don't appreciate moves like that. I wouldn't have felt bad for Sammy at all if Ricky would have stayed wide-open and ran over top of him. Probably was a racing deal what happened on the front stretch, but by Sammy's track record, it makes me think not.

Russ 12/16/09 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by slide22:
I am a driver, and don't appreciate moves like that. I wouldn't have felt bad for Sammy at all if Ricky would have stayed wide-open and ran over top of him. Probably was a racing deal what happened on the front stretch, but by Sammy's track record, it makes me think not.

So what is Swindell's track record? Winning a 100 times more more races than you could ever dream of winning.

sprinterfan 12/16/09 5:53 PM

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My question is ,,,,..... whats Mr. Jack Roush think of his driver now?.. The way that kid acted, you woulda thought sammy right reared him during the slide job. If so, then I could see that kind of reaction, BUT to act like that when it was probably more Ricky's fault than anything is just rediculous. Ive seen drivers lose deals/contracts other drivers would die for over a lot smaller issues.

quicktime3 12/16/09 6:12 PM

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No doubt the antics were ridiculous. Stenhouse should be ashamed.
I'm still unsure how the crash was Stenhouse's fault? He backed off to let Swindell slide in front of him, and then crossed over. He allowed room on the outside for Swindell, who visibly came down off the wall to make contact with him. Watching the few laps before leads me to believe that Swindell had no problem controlling his car. It was a calculated move on his part, obviously, to attempt to "block" the upcoming slider going into turn one. Unfortunately, Stenhouse was there and the contact resulted in damage to Stenhouse's car. That all is pretty obvious to me.

sprinterfan 12/16/09 7:03 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
I agree with that. Swindell has been around a long time, he knew he lost momentum on that slider, which would obviously put Ricky beside him. Sammy knew he was going to be there before he threw the slider more than likely. Any real racer, (that knows how to throw a slider) knows that the other guy will have more momentum coming off the corner and more than likely will try to throw one back the next corner. Looked like to me Sammy stayed off the wall slightly to make it difficult for Ricky to set him back up. But the contact wasn't all sammy's fault. Racing deal, Ricky over exagerated afterwards.

john byrd 12/16/09 10:11 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 
i was there that night it was a hell of arace all over the track
wo what a night sammy and rickey ;jeff and terry and also
hood and other's give me that every sat night. just like old day's
great raceing.. to me it was raceing at it best. the most stupied
part was when rickey hit sammy wing // he could of lost a arm or ahand on that deal . bobby voss lost a arm over a wing one time
and then sammy had to make a bad statement in victory lane.
a great race but a sad ending.

MissouriSprinter 12/16/09 10:56 PM

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I can't stand Sammy, but, it was a racing deal. Ricky hitting Sammy's wing after the interveiw and then running like a coward is stupid. After things were getting broke up Ricky came back to take a shot or two. I'm glad he got a Roush deal. Maybe after this he will keep running taxicabs and not "grace" another short track with his presence.

midgetmaniac 12/16/09 11:39 PM

Re: Video of Stenhouse and Swindell at Riverside
 

Originally Posted by Pat O'Connor Fan:
betcha he wouldn't have done that $hit to Jack Hewitt :26:

Yeah, Sammy would not have done that to Jack or the King :34:We know exactly what they would have done in the pits arterwards.

Brady Martin 12/17/09 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by midgetmaniac:
Yeah, Sammy would not have done that to Jack or the King :34:We know exactly what they would have done in the pits arterwards.

This is the funnest thing I have ever read. Have you ever seen Steve and Sammy race together? I was at Kokomo the night they gave each other about ten slide jobs each and Sammy won the race, guess who the first one was to congradulate him. Yep it was Steve. This was when they didnt run wings at the small tracks. And I have seen Jack do the same. The difference is these guys get it. They do it and have had it happen to them, like it or not it is part of racing. Do you people Really think Sammy would take a chance at taking himself out when it was obvious that he had the faster car? If there is one thing we can agree on is that he LOVES to win races. Still cracking up!!!!!!!!!!!Wouldnt do it to the King


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