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Heromaker 1/8/08 4:38 PM
Kevin Swindell
 
Looks as though he is starting the year off right. Out of 250 cars him and one other already got upside down.

GPracing6 1/8/08 4:41 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Was this in the open practice session?

OpenwheelRob 1/8/08 4:46 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
He was probably just driving it off the trailer, but it's ok because his daddy was beating up everyone that was laughing at him.

GGG 1/8/08 4:51 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OpenwheelRob (Post 23916)
He was probably just driving it off the trailer, but it's ok because his daddy was beating up everyone that was laughing at him.
why was he even on the track (tuesday) I thought that we ran latter in the week ???:doh:

Stagger 1/8/08 5:12 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Kevin at his finest.....That cracks me up but does not surprise me. What a mess that had to be, pushing every midget there off for a quick practice seesion.

Good Luck Matt and the Bordner Racing Crew.

Of course the Fly,n Shu is a sentimental fav.

Gary Taylor will shock all with a qualifying night A main win.

Heromaker 1/8/08 5:15 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Yeah it was an open practice in the building.

Crankin 1/8/08 6:39 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OpenwheelRob (Post 23916)
He was probably just driving it off the trailer, but it's ok because his daddy was beating up everyone that was laughing at him.
:rolling: :emote20: :rolling:

racechic66 1/8/08 7:25 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
:rolling:


It's called KARMA baby!!!!!!!!!


:applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud:

AERO410SCJA 1/8/08 8:09 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
I can not believe you guys are picking on that well mannered,hard working young man!:D

kinser 1/8/08 8:11 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Any side bets on what his total number of flips will be this year ? He led USAC last year with 8 counting the one at Salem that USAC didn`t count ! LOL

Charles Nungester 1/8/08 8:18 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kinser (Post 23952)
Any side bets on what his total number of flips will be this year ? He led USAC last year with 8 counting the one at Salem that USAC didn`t count ! LOL
Might set some Record in ARCA???

Joey Woods 1/8/08 8:26 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kinser (Post 23952)
Any side bets on what his total number of flips will be this year ? He led USAC last year with 8 counting the one at Salem that USAC didn`t count ! LOL
How many others on that list did he cause? For those folks that say he gets a bad wrap because of his fathers fame, people the numbers don't lie.:headbang:

kinser 1/8/08 8:35 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joey Woods (Post 23954)
How many others on that list did he cause? For those folks that say he gets a bad wrap because of his fathers fame, people the numbers don't lie.:headbang:
What he said ! I was just thinking the same thing ! It would be interesting to know how many of those he caused ! Someone call Donald Davidson quick ! LOL

Hawker 1/9/08 1:36 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Once again, I see the bias posting in here. Did you see it? I did. Did you see the other 9 flips today? What are your comments about those? How about the 83 car that flipped in every race he was in, what are your comments on that?

FYI - Technically, I really wouldn't call Kevin's deal a flip. The inside berm is the tallest I have seen it in the 17 years I've been going to the Chili Bowl. It is roughly 20" to 24" high and VERY uneven. 5 of the 9 cars that flipped today/night were from just touching the berm. Once the LF touches it, it sucks the car right in. Kevin just touched it with the LF, it sucked the car in and tripped over the LF and he caught in by making a hard right turn and the car basically did a pirouette. There will be a lot of cars destroyed by the larger berm this year, mark my words.

If you guys are going to bash drivers, why not bash all of them that wreck. Why not bash Dave Darland? He spun today during practice all by himself infront of a group of cars stacking everyone up. No, can't do that, he's one of "our own"... :rolleyes:

Let's not have a double standard, one standard will do just fine. :headbang:

Rex W. 1/9/08 1:38 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawker (Post 24010)
Once again, I see the bias posting in here. Did you see it? I did. Did you see the other 9 flips today? What are your comments about those? How about the 83 car that flipped in every race he was in, what are your comments on that?

FYI - Technically, I really wouldn't call Kevin's deal a flip. The inside berm is the tallest I have seen it in the 17 years I've been going to the Chili Bowl. It is roughly 20" to 24" high and VERY uneven. 5 of the 9 cars that flipped today/night were from just touching the berm. Once the LF touches it, it suck the car right in. Kevin just touched it with the LF, it sucked the car in and tripped over the LF and he caught in by making a hard right turn and the car basically did a pirouette. There will be a lot of cars destroyed by the larger berm this year, mark my words.

If you guys are going to bash drivers, why not bash all of them that wreck. Why not bash Dave Darland? He spun today during practice all by himself infront of a group of cars stacking everyone up. No, can't do that, he's one of "our own"... :rolleyes:

Let's not have a double standard, one standard will do just fine. :headbang:
:thumb::thumb::thumb:

LocalYokel 1/9/08 2:39 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawker (Post 24010)
Once again, I see the bias posting in here. Did you see it? I did. Did you see the other 9 flips today? What are your comments about those? How about the 83 car that flipped in every race he was in, what are your comments on that?

FYI - Technically, I really wouldn't call Kevin's deal a flip. The inside berm is the tallest I have seen it in the 17 years I've been going to the Chili Bowl. It is roughly 20" to 24" high and VERY uneven. 5 of the 9 cars that flipped today/night were from just touching the berm. Once the LF touches it, it sucks the car right in. Kevin just touched it with the LF, it sucked the car in and tripped over the LF and he caught in by making a hard right turn and the car basically did a pirouette. There will be a lot of cars destroyed by the larger berm this year, mark my words.

If you guys are going to bash drivers, why not bash all of them that wreck. Why not bash Dave Darland? He spun today during practice all by himself infront of a group of cars stacking everyone up. No, can't do that, he's one of "our own"... :rolleyes:

Let's not have a double standard, one standard will do just fine. :headbang:
Go back to Missouri!! :moon:

Heromaker 1/9/08 8:24 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Are you saying we are giving him a bad rap... He made his bed now he shall lie in it.

PJ Wright 1/9/08 9:00 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawker (Post 24010)

If you guys are going to bash drivers, why not bash all of them that wreck. Why not bash Dave Darland? He spun today during practice all by himself infront of a group of cars stacking everyone up. No, can't do that, he's one of "our own"... :rolleyes:

Let's not have a double standard, one standard will do just fine. :headbang:
There is no double standard. The ridicule that Kevin receives isn't based on who spins or flips the most during any one event. It's because of a pattern of behavior on and off the track. Interesting that you chose Dave Darland for your comparison. When I think of Dave, some things that come to mind are; class, good attitude, smart decisions, etc.. Those aren't things I normally associate with Kevin, at least not yet.
To me the bottom line is this: If a person is going to behave like a jerk, there should be no suprise when they're treated like one.

ossuks 1/9/08 9:19 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawker (Post 24010)
Once again, I see the bias posting in here. Did you see it? I did. Did you see the other 9 flips today? What are your comments about those? How about the 83 car that flipped in every race he was in, what are your comments on that?

FYI - Technically, I really wouldn't call Kevin's deal a flip. The inside berm is the tallest I have seen it in the 17 years I've been going to the Chili Bowl. It is roughly 20" to 24" high and VERY uneven. 5 of the 9 cars that flipped today/night were from just touching the berm. Once the LF touches it, it sucks the car right in. Kevin just touched it with the LF, it sucked the car in and tripped over the LF and he caught in by making a hard right turn and the car basically did a pirouette. There will be a lot of cars destroyed by the larger berm this year, mark my words.

If you guys are going to bash drivers, why not bash all of them that wreck. Why not bash Dave Darland? He spun today during practice all by himself infront of a group of cars stacking everyone up. No, can't do that, he's one of "our own"... :rolleyes:

Let's not have a double standard, one standard will do just fine. :headbang:

Let me try to awnser that question:
1- Alot of people feel like he did not pay his dues, they also feel that way about any young driver that comes racing on Daddys money.
2-He gives one the impression that he is a step above everyone. Some say that he is not that way, that he is backwards like Sam?
3-Some feel he has a total disregard for those he races with and their equipment.
4- Some do not like his Daddy!

08 Prediction- Young Kevin will win 2 Woo races of the 45 or so that he runs after the 4th of July!

tailtank 1/9/08 10:55 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
dues? So Brady Bacon and all of the other kids have paid theirs? B.S.

Do you believe a person can learn from his mistakes? How do you know Kevin hasn't? Because you don't like his lastname.

Keep cryin' boys..........:loser:

Hawker 1/9/08 11:25 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
LocalYokel - I'll head back to Missouri as soon as the Chili Bowl is over. P.S. keep listening to the internet webcast...:emote20:

Heromaker - I'm still waiting for you to bash the other 7 drivers who flipped last night (one of them twice).

PJ - Dave Darland is one of my favorite drivers of all time. The point I am trying to make is that if people are going to bash one driver, bash them all, be consistant.

ossuks - Kevin's father did not grow up rich, he earned every dime he has made by winning races and is the best example out there on how to RETIRE from racing openwheel dirt. Then he takes SOME of that money and takes his kid racing? GOD FORBID!!!

tailtank nailed it. There's 200 rich kids racing here in Tulsa and half of those probably have a lot more $$$ than the Swindell family. Where's the jealousy towards them?

Seadog 1/9/08 11:32 AM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawker (Post 24044)
The point I am trying to make is that if people are going to bash one driver, bash them all, be consistant.
Why should we bash a driver that doesn't deserve to be bashed? Come on, get real.

Hawker 1/9/08 12:06 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seadog (Post 24045)
Why should we bash a driver that doesn't deserve to be bashed? Come on, get real.
And please explain which drivers deserve to be bashed?

IMO - If you bash drivers, your no fan...

Glad Brad 1/9/08 12:13 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seadog (Post 24045)
Why should we bash a driver that doesn't deserve to be bashed? Come on, get real.
I'm waiting to hear you explain this comment. The IOW.com message board posters are clinging to a sliver of credibility.

Straight up - Kevin outperformed Brady Bacon in 2007. If, running the same equipment is your yardstick - that may be a stretch to assume the use of logic on a message board.

Glad Brad 1/9/08 12:14 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PJ Wright (Post 24031)
There is no double standard. The ridicule that Kevin receives isn't based on who spins or flips the most during any one event. It's because of a pattern of behavior on and off the track. Interesting that you chose Dave Darland for your comparison. When I think of Dave, some things that come to mind are; class, good attitude, smart decisions, etc.. Those aren't things I normally associate with Kevin, at least not yet.
To me the bottom line is this: If a person is going to behave like a jerk, there should be no suprise when they're treated like one.
:sleep:

Glad Brad 1/9/08 12:18 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heromaker (Post 23913)
Looks as though he is starting the year off right. Out of 250 cars him and one other already got upside down.
250 cars were on the track Tuesday night? Did you come to the same conclusion after Smoke dumped his midget on his qualifying night?

wbr 1/9/08 12:21 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ossuks (Post 24033)
Let me try to awnser that question:
1- Alot of people feel like he did not pay his dues, they also feel that way about any young driver that comes racing on Daddys money.
2-He gives one the impression that he is a step above everyone. Some say that he is not that way, that he is backwards like Sam?
3-Some feel he has a total disregard for those he races with and their equipment.
Kevin Eckerts OpenWheelTimes.com November 30th column partially explains some of these, here is an exerpt:

"One such episode was the 1988 Florida State Fair when Sammy knocked Terry McCarl into next week. Terry walked the length of Tampa

Glad Brad 1/9/08 12:22 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawker (Post 24010)
Once again, I see the bias posting in here. Did you see it? I did. Did you see the other 9 flips today? What are your comments about those? How about the 83 car that flipped in every race he was in, what are your comments on that?

FYI - Technically, I really wouldn't call Kevin's deal a flip. The inside berm is the tallest I have seen it in the 17 years I've been going to the Chili Bowl. It is roughly 20" to 24" high and VERY uneven. 5 of the 9 cars that flipped today/night were from just touching the berm. Once the LF touches it, it sucks the car right in. Kevin just touched it with the LF, it sucked the car in and tripped over the LF and he caught in by making a hard right turn and the car basically did a pirouette. There will be a lot of cars destroyed by the larger berm this year, mark my words.

If you guys are going to bash drivers, why not bash all of them that wreck. Why not bash Dave Darland? He spun today during practice all by himself infront of a group of cars stacking everyone up. No, can't do that, he's one of "our own"... :rolleyes:

Let's not have a double standard, one standard will do just fine. :headbang:
Oh... don't go there with Dave Darland and especially Daron Clayton. Geez Louise man. USAC has high standards!

Technically speaking, Dave Darland was practicing for "Dancing At The Bars" - it was one of the standard Tango steps.

PJ Wright 1/9/08 12:25 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawker (Post 24047)
And please explain which drivers deserve to be bashed?

IMO - If you bash drivers, your no fan...

If you mean of that particular driver, then you're right. If you mean of racing in general, I don't buy it. How many other drivers has Kevin "bashed" (figuratively and literally)? Does that mean he's not a fan, that he doesn't like the sport? What about all the people who literally hate Jeff Gordon. Does having a negative opinion of someone mean you're not a true fan? I love racing but that doesn't mean I like everyone associated with the sport.
By the way, I really hope Kevin matures and eventually makes fans of his detractors, but until then.......

Charles Nungester 1/9/08 12:26 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Someone needs to step back a minute and look at what they are saying if you ask me. NOT LIKING Someone for some of the reasons given isn't BASHING.

I root for everyone. Even Kevin if he's clean and fast but the events of last season left me and quite a few others with a bad taste not just from his actions on the track, *Which some were amazingly good* as well as those that resulted in himself or others being taking out of the race.

Everyone has a bad night. IMHO he had way more than average. Even for a rookie and the statement he made after the MSCS Burg race was 1 UNFOUNDED as Ballou had passed him about 30 laps earlier and 2. Totally Baseless as Ballou races him clean and 3. Totally lacking in class or respect.

As for you guys saying We're bashing, YOU CAN'T change my mind about him. ONLY KEVIN CAN! Theres no doubt hes got the talent and is fast and if he can make his moves without taking people out and still winning then he will be deserving of all the praise I could lay on him.


Chuck, who's had a couple other drivers in The least favorites list over the years but never hated anyone. Not even Kevin. I wish all drivers success and safety.

Glad Brad 1/9/08 12:26 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
[QUOTE=wbr;24052]Kevin Eckerts OpenWheelTimes.com November 30th column partially explains some of these, here is an exerpt:

"One such episode was the 1988 Florida State Fair when Sammy knocked Terry McCarl into next week. Terry walked the length of Tampa

OpenwheelRob 1/9/08 12:38 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
He is the Turd in the punchbowl of sprintcar racing.

Seadog 1/9/08 12:44 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glad Brad (Post 24048)
I'm waiting to hear you explain this comment. The IOW.com message board posters are clinging to a sliver of credibility.

Straight up - Kevin outperformed Brady Bacon in 2007. If, running the same equipment is your yardstick - that may be a stretch to assume the use of logic on a message board.
OK, show me where I mentioned Swindell specifically..I'm waiting...I'm still waiting...Show me where I bashed anybody...I'm waiting...I'm still waiting...

samtheone 1/9/08 12:44 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:

"Kevin's father did not grow up rich, he earned every dime he has made by winning races and is the best example out there on how to RETIRE from racing openwheel dirt. Then he takes SOME of that money and takes his kid racing? GOD FORBID!!! "

Great quote...ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

GO SAMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rachasin 1/9/08 1:03 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
well said chuck!!!

Onlydirt 1/9/08 1:27 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
You people that dont want to hold people accountable for their actions made the world the way it is today.....

Glad Brad 1/9/08 1:56 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OpenwheelRob (Post 24058)
He is the Turd in the punchbowl of sprintcar racing.
You are the missing lugnut of the loose wheel of the bomber division. Way up there on the totum pole.

Glad Brad 1/9/08 1:58 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seadog (Post 24060)
OK, show me where I mentioned Swindell specifically..I'm waiting...I'm still waiting...Show me where I bashed anybody...I'm waiting...I'm still waiting...
Show me where I said you mentioned Swindell? I did ask you to explain your comment specifically... We're waiting... We're still waiting... We're not expecting an intelligent reply... still not expecting...

Glad Brad 1/9/08 2:01 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Onlydirt (Post 24065)
You people that dont want to hold people accountable for their actions made the world the way it is today.....
You're incorrect. What is wrong with the world today is selective accountability that is steeped in biased ignorance.

Pine 1/9/08 2:45 PM
Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Keep up the good work Hawker and Brad. You defended Sammy for 30 years. Now you only have about 29 1/2 years left to defend K. Swindell. Mentioning the Swindell's and Dave Darland in the same sentence is almost worth a :icon_smile_blackeye......:rolling:

P.S..All you have to do is look where these guys' are from. If I was a SPRINT CAR FAN and lived in BUM F***** EGYPT I'd be pissed too:doh:.


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