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On october 11 at Paragon speedway Dri-Bar held a test with Hunter Schuerenberg,Damion Gardner,and Jerry Coons Jr. All ran with out the bar to dial their car in to the track.Then ran with the Dri-Bar Hooked up.As the track changed cars were run with and with out the bar.Stop watch does not lie!They ran faster with the Dri-Bar. But the main idea of the bar is to keep cars handling in a feature from the green flag with a full fuel load to the checkered and just a few gallons of fuel.

The adjustable unit mounted on lower left rail.
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The cockpit adjuster.
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Left rear birdcage connection/
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Complete left side Dri-Bar.
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At Speed
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Video coming soon !

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Very cool!

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I was at the test shooting video and stills. I think it adds to the driver's selection of tools from adjusting the shocks, try a different line and throttle control. It is easy to adjust, just push the button and move the cockpit lever to change the weight transfer and roll.
Does it make a winning difference?
You have to ask D.G. about that and if it helped him at Perris. Is it needed? Is any cockpit adjusters needed?
From what I saw at Paragon it does help the car and did pick up the teams some time. 3 tenths covers a lot of cars at a USAC race. Would it of helped Jud Larson? Don Branson or Sam Sessons?
Doubt it, they were true race drivers running cars by the seat of their pants. Todays drivers like adjustments.

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Well the 3 race cars running the Dri-Bar :Bryan Clauson,Damion Gardner,and Henry clarke Finished 1,4,6 respectfully

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3 of the top 10 had a Dri-Bar Damion Gardner 1 , Bryan Clauson 4 , and Henry Clarke 6 CONGRATULRTIONS WAY TO GO !!!!!

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HA! The one sure thing I've noticed, in 40 years of doing this stuff, is that, at least, half of the "drivers" who buy all of these, manually operated, adjustable anti-rollbar gizmos end up jacking themselves out of business..... Now, if this guy's gadget was capable of sensing track condition and was able to adjust itself in the correct direction, he might have something new.

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Originally Posted by v8j:
3 of the top 10 had a Dri-Bar Damion Gardner 1 , Bryan Clauson 4 , and Henry Clarke 6 CONGRATULRTIONS WAY TO GO !!!!!

I'm not saying it doesn't work. I'm just saying the they probably would've finished 1,4 & 6th without it.

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So how soon will it be before USAC bans this device ? Any Bets ?

Seems like Drinan should know better. So much for recovering R&D expense.

Tom

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There were 7 cars with the bar on board by Saturday night at Perris; but nah - don't try it out. The damned thing doesn't work don't waste your money. ;)

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thanks to all teams and drivers that are using the Dri-Bar and those that have orderd system for next week From DRINAN RACING PRODUCT THE DRI-DAR PEOPLE

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Originally Posted by Hclarke:
There were 7 cars with the bar on board by Saturday night at Perris; but nah - don't try it out. The damned thing doesn't work don't waste your money. ;)

Apparently some folks didn't quite understand my comments. Apologies to any that missed the point.

Okay -let's clear this up. 3 cars on Wednesday - 7 by Saturday and from what I got from conversation more would have been in use if they could have built and shipped them. I'd say that's a high quality problem. The "wink" character usually means someone is pulling your leg.

I watched Henry drive harder and faster than I've ever seen him drive Perris. Put it on your car and find out why...it works.

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Originally Posted by Hclarke:
There were 7 cars with the bar on board by Saturday night at Perris; but nah - don't try it out. The damned thing doesn't work don't waste your money. ;)

Here's my take:
1. This is supposed to be a forum and this thread is basically a commercial for a product. It belongs somewhere else

2. How much does it cost??? because if it indeed works, then everybody will have to have one to be competitive. That being the case, whatever it costs is how much more it is going to cost everybody to go racing. These kinds of devices are unnecessary. They simply add to the cost of racing without improving the sport in any way.

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This system has been around for 3-4 years now and is a version of the blade system that Danny has run for basically 10-15 years.

To me it's like alot of things......it works well for guys who are already fast, but will not take a newbie and make them Rich Vogler. It does make the car faster, but I believe that it helps guys maximize themselves who are already fast or who are getting to the point to where they know how to hustle the car.

If you listen to the audio closely, you will hear Hunter say that the available adjustments weren't as important as just having it hooked up.

I could be wrong, but I would say that often a guy who runs this system will probably not run the front anti-roll system so that offsets some of the money.

I think it's a pretty cool deal.

In an effort to provide full disclosure I have to say that in the past we have manufactured some of the aluminum items seen in the photos. Drinan Racing had the design and contracted us to build it. I'm not pushing the product as much as I am just discussing it.

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This is supposed to be a forum and this thread is basically a commercial for a product. It belongs somewhere else. Quoted.


I agree with that but I also see this a something that a lot of people don't know about or how it works.

But I also see posters doing the same thing from race tracks to swap meets or videos or rides for rent posted here. Is there a difference?

I like the Dri-Bar deal cause I saw it make a difference at the test, I think it's something drivers and teams need to see and look at cause most don't know or many probally haven't seen one. It's all about information.

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Originally Posted by Hclarke:
There were 7 cars with the bar on board by Saturday night at Perris; but nah - don't try it out. The damned thing doesn't work don't waste your money. ;)

I took this post strictly as "tongue-in-cheek", refering to Henry's fine run on Saturday night...:6: And funny as hell!

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Will this "Dri-Bar system" be anything like the Twister chassis of a few years ago? I'm sure those guys made some money cuz JJ Yeley whooped some ass in those cars, but where are they today?

Me thinks the Fox Bros., Keith Kunz, and the like will have no problem winning without one.....

If H. Clarke had one on, obviously Kunz tried it, but I remember they built a Twister "copy" for Jay Drake years back; what happened to that?

P.S.- the best thing for sprint car racing is to live by the motto, "Keep it simple, stupid.". If you're wondering what the heck that means, just look at the state of affairs in the midget scene right now. Those high-tech, over-priced machines are brought to you by people like Dan Drinan, Bob East, and Kelly Drake. Don't get me wrong, those guys are great names in our sport, no disrepect.

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If Mr. 75% Fast has one and it gets him next to Mr. 90% Fast, then Mr. 90% Fast is going to get one, forcing Mr. 100% Fast to get one just to stay ahead.

I am a fan of Drinans work, but hmmmmmm...............

I would get one before my local yokels get one! Of course if I had a running sprint car built in this century!lol

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Chrismattlin this is what makes the Dri-Bar so great,after you under stand how it works,how easy it is to use

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I run a dri-bar on a 1000cc Mini Sprint. Last year I ran with it then took it off to see the difference. I had good runs with the dri-bar and I had ok runs without the dri-bar. I like how the car feels with the dri-bar and the fact that you have adjustment throughout a race especially when the track slicks off. At North Vernon last year it was a one grove race on the bottom, and I was able to use the dri-bar to help get the car to run the middle and I came from 13th to 3rd in 7 laps just because I could run something other than the bottom. As an engineer I understand what Drinan is doing and it makes complete sense. I would highly recommend the dri-bar to anyone. It is well worth the money it cost.

Lynsey Tilton

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After looking at the pics of the cockpit adjuster, make sure someone tightens up the jam nut on the heim!

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Good eye HoosierDaddy

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Originally Posted by cecil98:
Here's my take:
1. This is supposed to be a forum and this thread is basically a commercial for a product. It belongs somewhere else

2. How much does it cost??? because if it indeed works, then everybody will have to have one to be competitive. That being the case, whatever it costs is how much more it is going to cost everybody to go racing. These kinds of devices are unnecessary. They simply add to the cost of racing without improving the sport in any way.

If you don't like the thread then don't read it! Very simple. You know I don't like that there is a modified section on this site because they are half open wheel. But it gives those guys a place to talk and network. So you know what I don't read it. Enough said.

Bob

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good eye Hoosierdaddy, I think that pic.was taken when they were installing the system fiting the cable to length

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Originally Posted by Racer12:
If you don't like the thread then don't read it! Very simple. You know I don't like that there is a modified section on this site because they are half open wheel. But it gives those guys a place to talk and network. So you know what I don't read it. Enough said.

Bob

Had the title of the thread indicated that it was a commercial I wouldn't have. I had no clue what DRI-BAR meant so I read it. If you don't like my comments don't read them. Enough said.

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OK Cecil98,the Dri-Bar changes the spring split so you can tighten or loosen up the car.unlike a weightjacker that only works one part of the turn,the Dri-Bar works all the way through the turn.the main thing is to keep the car in a feature race stable,and concistent from the start of the race with a full fuel load to the end with just a few gallons. I hope this info helps

Originally Posted by v8j:
OK Cecil98,the Dri-Bar changes the spring split so you can tighten or loosen up the car.unlike a weightjacker that only works one part of the turn,the Dri-Bar works all the way through the turn.the main thing is to keep the car in a feature race stable,and concistent from the start of the race with a full fuel load to the end with just a few gallons. I hope this info helps

everybody keeps side stepping the question what does it cost? Or does it mean if we have to ask we can't afford it. Just another toy for the rich guys.
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I think $900 for the dirt system,and less for the recon pavement system

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Originally Posted by v8j:
OK Cecil98,the Dri-Bar changes the spring split so you can tighten or loosen up the car.unlike a weightjacker that only works one part of the turn,the Dri-Bar works all the way through the turn.the main thing is to keep the car in a feature race stable,and concistent from the start of the race with a full fuel load to the end with just a few gallons. I hope this info helps

v8j, thanks for the explanation. However, how, why or whether, it works is not my concern here. My concern is, that if it indeed creates an advantage, then I'm going to have to spend an extra $900 this year just to maintain the staus quo. How has that helped the sport (and the poor racer, like us) in any way? I'm to the point where I believe you should be allowed one bar, one arm, one stop and one shock per corner of the car and "nothing" cockpit adjustable.

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Ok, they said you run .25 less bar than normal with this thing and 30# less rebound on the LR.

When they tested this they started with it hooked up and the changes made. Then they unhooked it and were slower. When they unhooked it did they put the heavier bar and shock rebound back in? If not then heck yeah they would be slower cause the car is too soft for what the driver is used to. The test was ran backwards in my opinion.

I am sure this thing works once you get used to it. If it didn't we wouldn't be talking about it.

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Originally Posted by cecil98:
v8j, thanks for the explanation. However, how, why or whether, it works is not my concern here. My concern is, that if it indeed creates an advantage, then I'm going to have to spend an extra $900 this year just to maintain the staus quo. How has that helped the sport (and the poor racer, like us) in any way? I'm to the point where I believe you should be allowed one bar, one arm, one stop and one shock per corner of the car and "nothing" cockpit adjustable.

Originally Posted by cecil98:
Had the title of the thread indicated that it was a commercial I wouldn't have. I had no clue what DRI-BAR meant so I read it. If you don't like my comments don't read them. Enough said.

This is funny! You are still reading this, I thought that you said it didn't belong here and you don't like it. But here you are still reading it. This post being here is all about free enterprise the American way.

If you are racing to win on every race night then a $900 part to give you a 4 tenths of a sec. gain should be well worth it. I to think that there should not be any cockpit adjustments. But they are here, embrace tham or eat some dust! Conform while you can if not then you fall behind the learning curve. I had a limited amount of races in 2006-2008, this year I raced with relative newcomers to Sprint cars. In my mind I learned from them as much as they learned from me. There is so much changing n our sport with the suspensions from year to year. So you must stay on the cutting edge of technology or you will fall behind.

Bob

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[QUOTE=brian26;144861]If Mr. 75% Fast has one and it gets him next to Mr. 90% Fast, then Mr. 90% Fast is going to get one, forcing Mr. 100% Fast to get one just to stay ahead.

I am a fan of Drinans work, but hmmmmmm...............

Originally Posted by cecil98:
v8j, thanks for the explanation. However, how, why or whether, it works is not my concern here. My concern is, that if it indeed creates an advantage, then I'm going to have to spend an extra $900 this year just to maintain the staus quo. How has that helped the sport (and the poor racer, like us) in any way? I'm to the point where I believe you should be allowed one bar, one arm, one stop and one shock per corner of the car and "nothing" cockpit adjustable.

P.S.- the best thing for sprint car racing is to live by the motto, "Keep it simple, stupid.".


I think the idea of KISS ("Keep it simple, stupid.") is dead on on here. One bar, one shock, no cockpit adjustments is the way sprintcars should be. Look at what technology has done to other forms of autoracing. It's a sprintcar, let's keep it what it is and quit adding costs to run one. Set it up and drive the damn thing. You get what you get when you leave the pits.:6:

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Clauson at Tulare set a new track record with the Dri-Bar by 3 tenth!!CONGRADS

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Originally Posted by v8j:
I think $900 for the dirt system,and less for the recon pavement system

Thot I heard from Drinan himself,at shop,it was $900./$500. for ea. end of car!!....for dirt!!.........
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Clauson must've taken it off for the heat race. :15:

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Originally Posted by v8j:
Clauson at Tulare set a new track record with the Dri-Bar by 3 tenth!!CONGRADS

I thought that this product helped with the setup as the race progressed, I did not know that it helped a car that much during a two lap qualifying run. Very impressive tool. ;)