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I feel so sorry for Dave Rudisell
For the browbeating he is taking for the DTWC. He puts his ass on the line and pays $50,000 to win, $5,000 to win, and $3,000 and the cars don't support him, the fans were there but for some reason the cars were not there. 71 LM is very disappointing but that has to be attributed to the UMP tire rule. Looking at who was there, the tire rule could have been left open and nothing would have been hurt. The Sprint count for 5K to win is the most baffling of all. After implementing the DT3 tire rule, to help out the racers that already have those in stock and only 19?? 57 modifieds in the middle of UMP/AMRA country? I can't begin to wonder where they were. And to top it off, the armchair track preppers on brand X board just raking him over the coals. From my standpoint, the feature was a damn good one, and the sprint feature finish was very exciting with Ballou and Short inches from each other at the line. Dave I feel like I owe you $50 in return for all the unneccessary beatings you're taking.
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I have no idea why anyone in their right mind would want to be a promoter. But i'm sure glad some do any way! Thanks Dave, Jiggs, Mike, Tom, Keith, Joe, Tim, the O'Conners and others.
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Originally Posted by PJ Wright: David. |
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My thoughts on the sprint car count is as follows -
1) Cold crappy weather with not the best forcast. Can't say anyone has fun spending two days sitting in that weather. 2) Face it, many guys are done racing. They have spent their wad for the season and already got the cars apart getting ready for swap meets. 3) Top teams, getting ready to head out west for two weeks of racing. 4) Two days of pit pass (dollar wise) for one pay out. Plus have to buy a hotel room, food, etc on top of that. Yes, paid 5k to win but only one driver walks out with that. $300 to start is nice but after the costs listed that $300 does not go far. 5) The weather forced teams to either sit two days at L-burg or one day at Kokomo. Seems to me most picked Kokomo. I guess my question is, I thought the DTWC was promoted by another guy and not Dave. Why is Dave taking the beating? I guess like everything, live and learn. If the sprint cars are not on the DTWC weekend next year I guess we will know why and there shouldn't be any complaining from the teams that did not support it this year. I made my first visit to the new L-burg this year and plan to be back next year. Dave - How about calling ASCS and booking an ASCS National Tour race in 2010. That would rock! |
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In my opinion the internet, although occasionally a positive, is ruining the sport.
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2 weeks of rain on and off, with vertually no sun shine and cold temps. The burg did not miss a race weekend. They busted but and got fun fest in. They worked hard all this week and got the DTWC in. Thats pretty impressive. Most places would have said the heck with it and canceled. I also know people are complaining about how they spent good money to go to that show. Guess what weather they spent $1 or $100 they are still going to complain. Keep working hard. Don't forget, happy people normally don't commient.
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I agree, i think it's just a big weather issue...
It was horrible all week within about 300 mile radius |
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I am pretty sure that Lawrenceburg rented the track to another promoter. That promoter has had it at KC Raceway.
I was there in 2006, and the weather was cold...the parking lots were a swamp...many, many stuck vehicles... I could not believe how many campers, fans, and cars were there in those conditions. Here is the website of the promoter of the DTWC. http://www.dirttrackworldchampionship.net Tony Barhorst rumbleseries.com |
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Originally Posted by Chris Nunn: |
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Originally Posted by Chris Nunn: There were plenty of cars. Only 26 made the LM feature. I got my moneys' worth, the late model show was great in IMO with at least 3 guys challeging Mars for the win and he beat them back each time (several times). One of the best 100 lappers I have ever seen during a day show or nite. I'm always up for the sprints and with that many mods it was fun.:8: Besides, it will be 6 months before alot of us will see another dirt race. Good Job Carl promoting and good job to Dave and crew. The track was great on Sunday.:6: |
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[QUOTE in part=staggerman;142106]My thoughts on the sprint car count is as follows -
1) Cold crappy weather with not the best forcast. Can't say anyone has fun spending two days sitting in that weather. 2) Face it, many guys are done racing. They have spent their wad for the season and already got the cars apart getting ready for swap meets. 3) Top teams, getting ready to head out west for two weeks of racing. 4) Two days of pit pass (dollar wise) for one pay out. Plus have to buy a hotel room, food, etc on top of that. Yes, paid 5k to win but only one driver walks out with that. $300 to start is nice but after the costs listed that $300 does not go far. 5) The weather forced teams to either sit two days at L-burg or one day at Kokomo. Seems to me most picked Kokomo. [/QUOTE] I'd agree with all that, except had the weather not forced the whole thing into a two day program, the sprint teams would have had to spend THREE days at L'burg, or go home and come back Saturday. so maybe the die was cast before the weather change. Could the revised L'burg schedule had the whole sprint car program on Saturday, allowing the sprint teams so inclined to either go home or go to Kokomo on Sunday? Maybe the DTWC didn't really need the sprint car program, or was there some concern that the LMs couldn't support necessary attendance? I know this thread is about cars..not fans, but with the original schedule, I planned to go to L'burg for the Thursday and Saturday programs and make the trip to Kokomo on Friday. Then came the discussion over one day tickets then the weather problems and I decided to forgo the whole L'burg deal and go to Kokomo. I'm glad I did!!! |
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you know I feel sorry for Dave alot of you people have nothing nice to say about him he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet he is a great promotor. and we should be thankful to have him as the promotor of one of the nicest tracks around. so in my opion I think you people need to lay off:42:::34;
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Originally Posted by modlady: |
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i've never met dave or been to the burg but I've heard nothing but good things about him and his crew, I mean anyone who tells a marine anytime he can make it to the burg its on me is good in my book, he seems to have a heart for people and loves his racin... keep your head up dave
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[QUOTE=Al Pierce;142280][QUOTE in part=staggerman;142106]My thoughts on the sprint car count is as follows -
Maybe the DTWC didn't really need the sprint car program, or was there some concern that the LMs couldn't support necessary attendance? The main grandstand about emptied out after the LM feature, just before the sprints. The sprints were added as a bonus to the fans, that's all. No more cost to get in, it is what it is.:22: |
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Just my opinion, but I believe that Dave Rudisell is cutting a fat cow. He is a business man and he would not promote The 'Burg if there was not more than a buck or two in the job. Also, why when the lease comes up for bid is there several bidders wanting to run the track?
I think track promoters are kind of like farmers. They all say they are broke, but have a wad of money in their overalls and their land is not up for sale. If race track pomoting was a big money losing project, why would there be so many race tracks? I do think that some of the greedy promoters have hurt their self by their own self greed and are not as profitable as they could be. |
Originally Posted by Dyno Don: Posted via Mobile Device |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: Purchased tons of new equiptment. The green water truck was 30g and he purchased another bigger one this year plus sheeps foot. Might have even bought Mel's Tractor, IDK. Has ten time the lighting and electric than the old track. He runs about 15 more employees than the old track took and charges a meer three dollars more. Oh yeah he upped the purse to highest paying in state for a weekly. I know there down there at least four or five days a week when other promotors put two or three into it. I HOPE HE MAKES A BILLION! Nobodys gonna do it any better IMHO. Chuck |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: The more you post on here about these types of things, the more I tend to believe you are a direct descendant of old man Potter, you know that warped decrepit old man from the movie "Its A Wonderful Life". Once again you are wrong! Have a nice day! |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: How ironic that you use a picture from Manzy as your avatar. I guess the promoter got tired of counting all of his easy money. Apparently that land WAS "up for sale". |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: |
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Originally Posted by Mud Packer: |
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I am not looking for any pity. I wish we only worked 4 or 5 days a week. I do what i do because of the love of the sport. I am not getting rich, I have less now than i did when i started this deal, i live in the same ole 1000 square foot house, the only thing i have bought for myself since taking over the track is a new pace truck which the lease is up next month. I am paying my bills and getting by, thats all i ask for in life. As long as i can continue to keep doing what i love to do i will continue to do so. I sure hope that someday i'll pad my pockets full of money then i won't have to make snow all winter long working 90 hours a week in the cold. Dyno Don this is for you...:26:
Thanks, Dave Rudisell |
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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell: |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: |
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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell: |
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For one you people need to leave Dave the hell alone and I put money after is five year contract is up that he is going to the track for five more years. he is one of the best promotors I have ever seen when anything happens on the track he is right there I have never seen the last promotor off of his quad at least Dave is not afraid to get off the quad. and for you people who are supporting Dave thank you if you people think that you can do any better at promoting the track then why dont you go down there and help him work on it. Dave you keep up the great work and for the people who dont know what a good promotor is then they can kiss :26::26: see ya next year Dave and cant wait to see the new schdule
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one thing people are quick to forget, the burg is new, and after 2 seasons of racing, it still looks new. That takes alot of work. I bet if Dave got on here and listed everything he has had to fix since last year, well no one would beleive him. kids and fans are constantly tearing stuff up. i like what i see at the burg, hope idiots like Don don't run Dave out of town. :34:
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Originally Posted by PJ Wright: They closed because a construction company made them an offer they could not refuse. The land was more valuable to a construction company than it was as a race track. I was there in Feb. and there was not one rumor about closing. And you know how rumors fly at tracks. A month later the deal was announced and another month they ran their last race. |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: |
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Of Years of going to LBurg. I've never seen a promotor so dedicated to putting on a show.
Not only is he there more often than not and DOING SOMETHING. He experiments and trys stuff both for the fans and the racers, The Gaines classic format??????????? Prizes. Pace truck rides. Give aways. Promotions with buisnesses ect. ect. ect. This isn't a knock on other promotors but it is one hell of a :6: to Dave and his staff to date! Thanks! |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: |
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Originally Posted by PJ Wright: Say it takes $1,000,000 to run an operate a race track for a year. Maintainance, equipment,leases,taxes, insurance,security(and they have an over abundance or that at The'Burg),and hourly labor. Now if you had a $1,000,000 and invested it in a mutual fund that pays 7% (I do have a fund that pays that amount,but I do not have $1,000,000) that means you are making $70,000 per year. Why would you invest in a race track to make less money? You can say I love the sport, but you did not make a $1,000,000 by going with your heart. You made it with your head. There are a ton of revenue out that that does not include tickets or the back gate. My only point is that promoters are not hurting, if they were they would be no race tracks. These guys are no fools, there in it for the money and you can not blame them for that. |
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Originally Posted by dyno don: |
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New list from Forbes
1 Bill Gates 2 Warren Buffet 3 Dave Rudisell Congrats Dave on being one of the Richest people in America.:32: |
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Dyno Don's predictable posts notwithstanding.....and with all due respect to Chris Nunn, I've got a tough time feeling sorry for Dave Rudisell. Folks working in a pie factory are envious of His Royal Bozoness.
He's got his loyal but unheralded right hand men, Tim Johnson and fishnman doing most of the heavy lifting. They get the grief when the track sucks (mighta happened once this season) and Dave steps to the front for :8: and bows when the racing surface is the normal topnotch. You think he thought of all those great innovations and improvements by himself? :19: All the good :16 are right out of Section "A". He stops by often to pick up tips (free ones I might add) from us. Most of the less than successful stuff was recommended by Chuck Nungester. Someone mentioned security. He gets free site surveilance security, usually from Sat. mornings thru Sun. mornings, from Mr. and Mrs. mowerman and their vicious watchdog, Jade. Just watch where you step after dark. He doesn't have to stand in line for a cheeseburger. He slips in the side door of the concession building, an entrance off limits to the rest of us. Danny Burton has a serious problem with that. He's got the BIGBUDMAN serving him BIGBUDS on the backstretch at a few events each season. He gets free breakfast a couple of times a year at the local Bob Evans eatery. O.K., he picks up the tab more times than not, so I grudgingly give him a pass there. Damn, I think it's my turn and I'm sure he'll go for steak and eggs if he reads this. :14: Lastly (for now), I met Mrs. Rudisell late in this just recently completed season. She's a 10...oh yes.....and Dave, what's he? A two? A three maybe if you don't deduct for girth. Yep, my heart bleeds for the poor guy. :17: Given time, I'm sure I could think of more reasons NOT to feel sorry for Bozo (one being that he has good friends like me :6: ). But, I won't.........because of all the scores of tracks I have attended in my 45+ years of chasing sprint cars from coast to coast, the Lawrenceburg Speedway is the finest facility where I have ever bought a ticket and losing 50/50 chances. I would assume Mr. Rudisell has had something to do with that. Maybe he had a lot to do with it. Well done Dave....:6: Keep up the outstanding work. :8: Now pass me the chapstick, and bring on the 2010 season. :22: |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: |
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don: I agree with you totally, the promoters are probably making 60% to 70% return on their investment every week. I would suggest that you pull all your money out of all of your current investments, mortgage your house and sell your oldest daughter and start promoting a race track. That way you can run one class, and the feature will be over before 8pm every night.:32: Go for it Buddy, I am sure everyone will support you totally on this. ACT NOW!!!!!! won't be too long and the secret will be out on how to get rich and there will be a race track in every community. |
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Wow, There is some good stuff in this thread!!! I'll be putting it all in the novel i'm writing in all my free time at the track. Fishnman knows the life i live and the trillions i make, I treat him to gourmet meals at a 5 star restaurant just north of the speedway daily(not really, we take turns buying lunch) and i'm only 1 meal away from getting boardwalk and making another million. Once in a great while we splurge and even get one of those 2 apple pies for a dollar.
I also make so much money that instead of paying someone to clean the restrooms in the fairgrounds i do it myself, Just 2 weeks ago i found 37 cents in the showerhouse, and a cubic zercomia(sp) earring that will be a nice x-mas gift for the Mrs......which Fishburger says shes a 10, as it goes, i went to bed at 2 with a 10, and woke up at 10 with a 2. :5: And once again this is for Dyno doo doo...:26::26::26::26: I gotta go and fill another mattress with hundreds!! Love Bozo |
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