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D.O. 10/5/09 3:11 PM

WoO signs Goodyear as tire
 
The World Racing Group announced today it has entered into a multiyear agreement with The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company to be the Official Tire supplier to the World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series.
Joey Saldana drives his #9 Kasey Kahne Racing World of Outlaws Sprint Car during a test session on Sunday, Oct. 4. (World of Outlaws) » More Photos
Beginning with the 2010 Florida DIRTcar Nationals in February, World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series competitors will be required to race with Goodyears on the left rear and right rear wheel positions.

“Goodyear recognizes Sprint Car racing as one of the elite forms of motorsports,” said Justin Fantozzi, Goodyear’s Marketing Manager of Global Race Tires. “We have a strong history with the World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series. Our tires have carried drivers to 19 championships in the 30-year history of ‘The Greatest Show on Dirt.’ We look forward to building on that tradition in 2010.”

dirtywhiteboy 10/5/09 3:50 PM

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Originally Posted by D.O. (Post 139482)
The World Racing Group announced today it has entered into a multiyear agreement with The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company to be the Official Tire supplier to the World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series.
Joey Saldana drives his #9 Kasey Kahne Racing World of Outlaws Sprint Car during a test session on Sunday, Oct. 4. (World of Outlaws) » More Photos
Beginning with the 2010 Florida DIRTcar Nationals in February, World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series competitors will be required to race with Goodyears on the left rear and right rear wheel positions.

“Goodyear recognizes Sprint Car racing as one of the elite forms of motorsports,” said Justin Fantozzi, Goodyear’s Marketing Manager of Global Race Tires. “We have a strong history with the World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series. Our tires have carried drivers to 19 championships in the 30-year history of ‘The Greatest Show on Dirt.’ We look forward to building on that tradition in 2010.”

I can only hope that the tires WoO gets will be better than the SH*T they call NASCAR tires or there will be alot of drivers hurt if not killed.

Preferably, it should be set a tire compound spec and let people race whatever tire brand they want.

Seadog 10/5/09 4:19 PM

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Two companies that are nearly bankrupt are joining forces. Interesting.:24:

davex 10/5/09 8:08 PM

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Very interesting!!

dirtywhiteboy 10/5/09 9:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Seadog (Post 139496)
Two companies that are nearly bankrupt are joining forces. Interesting.:24:

Kind of like the U.S Treasury and <insert bank or auto comapny name here>.

sprntr 10/5/09 9:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywhiteboy (Post 139485)
I can only hope that the tires WoO gets will be better than the SH*T they call NASCAR tires or there will be alot of drivers hurt if not killed.

Preferably, it should be set a tire compound spec and let people race whatever tire brand they want.

I would like to see a Tread Width & Durometer/Hardness rule.
Also, mandate a smaller wing say 4x4 like the old IMCA wing.

micro94 10/5/09 11:07 PM

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I didnt know Goodyear still made open wheel tires???I cant think off the top of my head when I last seen one.

Fullthrottle410 10/6/09 10:33 AM

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Wonder what effect it will have on car counts as far as locals or teams that are not running with them full time?

KOP 10/6/09 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by micro94 (Post 139571)
I didnt know Goodyear still made open wheel tires???I cant think off the top of my head when I last seen one.

Go here to to a pic of the Goodyear sponsored sprint car of 2009 OKC champ Danny Jennings

http://www.hoseheads.com/dhub.html

berks co 10/6/09 12:33 PM

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Rear only. Are they even made in the USA? Had a test Sunday evening at the Grove. Posse still beating WoO:6:

Lucky161 10/6/09 12:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtywhiteboy (Post 139485)
I can only hope that the tires WoO gets will be better than the SH*T they call NASCAR tires or there will be alot of drivers hurt if not killed.

Preferably, it should be set a tire compound spec and let people race whatever tire brand they want.

Have there been alot of drivers hurt or killed due to nascar tires?

dirtywhiteboy 10/6/09 2:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky161 (Post 139639)
Have there been alot of drivers hurt or killed due to nascar tires?

No BUT, they have alot more sheet metal and car around them than a sprint car driver does. If a sprintcar driver gets into a wreck, the chance of injuries is alot higher. Remember the Brickyard 20X20 from 2008? That was a huge tire issue even after Goodyear tested at the track prior to the race. Las Vegas has had Goodyear tire issues as well.

I just hope they do alot better job of tire design for the sprints than they did for NASCAR.

zeroracer 10/6/09 2:35 PM

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I really dont see it being an issue cuz we are sliding a 3200lbs race car around on pavement at 180+mph so i would say that the tire construction is probably a litle less of an issue for us, I know its important but i dont see it being as big of an issue

illinisprintfan 10/6/09 3:02 PM

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Goodyear made dirt tires for years without major safety problems. Go back a few years and most if not all the top teams ran Goodyear.

slide22 10/6/09 3:22 PM

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I know Brandon Wimmer (Rick Ferkel's car) runs goodyears

Tq14 10/6/09 3:41 PM

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I think that a few tracks the outlaws race at only sanction hoosier tires

Lucky161 10/6/09 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtywhiteboy (Post 139652)
No BUT, they have alot more sheet metal and car around them than a sprint car driver does. If a sprintcar driver gets into a wreck, the chance of injuries is alot higher. Remember the Brickyard 20X20 from 2008? That was a huge tire issue even after Goodyear tested at the track prior to the race. Las Vegas has had Goodyear tire issues as well.

I just hope they do alot better job of tire design for the sprints than they did for NASCAR.

I would suggest that sheet metal does very little to reduce injuries. And even if it did, that would be an issue of the car not the tire. And even if a sprint car driver does stand a lot higher chance of injury than a stock car driver, which I am not so sure they do, it would still be a problem with the car, not the tire. Yes, I remember the BY race with all the tire problems. Do you remember the "maypops" that both GY and Hoosier provided nascar during their tire war? Any competent tire company and that includes GY and Hoosier can build suitable tires, but they are almost always going to be a compromise.

We used to run Hoosiers on our street stocks. But the fastest guy kept throwing caps. Was that a Hoosier problem? We solved the problem by going to another Hoosier tire.

RichC 10/7/09 10:53 AM

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Don't understand what all the hysterics with the WoO going to Goodyear are about. It doesn't seem all that long ago that if you wanted the fastest tires for your sprint car (particularly wanged), you had to have GY. At a few places the McCrearys would beat them but the GY was a better overall tire. If you ran Hoosiers, you were in the back. Hoosiers were so bad that they GAVE them to anyone who would run them in USAC. Then Hoosier really stepped up by throwing a bunch of money at the king to switch to Hoosier at the same time they made a big development effort. This was right around when McCreary seemed to run into financial/management issues and Goodyear sent their racing tire manufacturing offshore. The offshore GY sprint tires weren't as good as the handmade US ones. So almost overnight, GY and McCreary faded into non-competiveness and you had to run Hoosier to go fast. GY tires pretty much disappeared from the sprints within a year.

Within the contraints of a tire rule, I'm sure the Goodyears will be just fine.

(anybody remember the Goodyear commercials with big name Indy/NASCAR drivers with AJ and Dale Sr that also included Steve Kinser?)

interpreter66 10/7/09 1:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tq14 (Post 139675)
I think that a few tracks the outlaws race at only sanction hoosier tires

when woo come's to town it's thier rule's that they go by, not the track.

MRmcgillicutty 10/7/09 11:27 PM

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i hear knoxville will also be mandating goodyears on the rear as well in the 410 class.

thebus79h 10/8/09 8:35 AM

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I find it hilarious that Hoosier is getting a taste of what it's like to get bought out buy a bigger company. That's all it is.

JEFFSTOY 10/8/09 9:10 AM

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I thought the discription of " outlaws" was run what you brung.

Z-man 10/23/09 4:37 PM

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Allstars too http://ascoc.allstarsprint.com/index...=253&Itemid=91

curbservice 10/25/09 9:48 PM

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here's my view, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!! The Outlaws and AllStars done this for the "point money". Good Year ponied up more cash than Hoosier. The really sad part is unless GoodYear spends ALOT of money on the local tracks this is only going to hurt the car counts in both series. The local guys aren't going to spend the money to buy GoodYears when they have a trailer full of Hoosiers. The AllStar Mid-West series will really suffer they depend on the locals more than anybody, and for 2,000 to win who's going to spend 400 to 600 for tires. The other kicker is GoodYear isn't giving out any tire deals. I was told this by an AllStar driver that knows what he's talking about at the last Terre Haute race. All in all I see this as a bad deal for every body fans, racers, track promoters Every BODY!!!

sprinter25 10/26/09 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by curbservice (Post 142740)
here's my view, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!! The Outlaws and AllStars done this for the "point money". Good Year ponied up more cash than Hoosier. The really sad part is unless GoodYear spends ALOT of money on the local tracks this is only going to hurt the car counts in both series. The local guys aren't going to spend the money to buy GoodYears when they have a trailer full of Hoosiers. The AllStar Mid-West series will really suffer they depend on the locals more than anybody, and for 2,000 to win who's going to spend 400 to 600 for tires. The other kicker is GoodYear isn't giving out any tire deals. I was told this by an AllStar driver that knows what he's talking about at the last Terre Haute race. All in all I see this as a bad deal for every body fans, racers, track promoters Every BODY!!!

IMO, it really won't change a thing....the teams that want to compete in WoO shows will buy tires from Goodyear...and if they have to buy three of four tires, they will. Racers seem to have an endless budget when it comes down to doing SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO DO! So, if they want to run a WoO race, they'll find a way.

Yes, a few will stay away; but it's just as likely that little will change.........

Z-man 11/4/09 11:32 PM

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More goodyear news http://www.racingwest.com/news/artic...int-cars-.html

v8j 11/5/09 10:22 AM

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NO BODY likes change!!!! gy just spent more money than hoosier.I want to know will the racer save any money? :11:

dirtywhiteboy 11/5/09 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by v8j (Post 143912)
NO BODY likes change!!!! gy just spent more money than hoosier.I want to know will the racer save any money? :11:


About as much chance of that happening as Erin divorcing Ray and marrying me.

Z-man 11/19/09 4:40 PM

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Add KC Raceway to the list. http://www.chillicothegazette.com/ar...ORTS/911180324

Hamby812 11/20/09 2:19 AM

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[QUOTE=Lucky161;139694]I would suggest that sheet metal does very little to reduce injuries. And even if it did, that would be an issue of the car not the tire. And even if a sprint car driver does stand a lot higher chance of injury than a stock car driver, which I am not so sure they do.QUOTE]


All I can say is this dude smokes crack. A nearly open cockpit car is not near as safe as a fully wraped up stock car. And dont come back with this dumb stuff about its the cars fault, their sprint cars aka real race cars. Not shoe boxes with tires. And just some fyi if a winged sprinter barrels off into the corner at a 1/2 mile track and say the RR does blow its gonna be a far worse outcome than a nascrap car hittin the wall.

short track scott 11/20/09 10:41 AM

Steve got his 500 free tires (as did others, he was the one I knew the number on) from Hoosier every year. Does anyone doubt everyone's buying Steve's free Goodyears too? It's a crock that the top dogs in a spec tire series STILL gets free tires, as if they have a choice of loyalties.

I know it's business and capitalism and all that. I just remember things like that when the mantra of 'affordable for everyone' comes out in a product press release.
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sprinter25 11/20/09 11:56 AM

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I heard from an unnamed local driver that when the Hoosier truck showed up at the local track to support the WoO, they had separate stocks of tires for the WoO and the locals....both piles of tires were plated (D10, D25) the same, but locals would only get tires from the pile set aside for locals. They could not get the same tires that the WoO guys were getting......

So were the WoO guys getting "special" tires? Well, who knows?........

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Originally Posted by short track scott (Post 146296)
Steve got his 500 free tires (as did others, he was the one I knew the number on) from Hoosier every year. Does anyone doubt everyone's buying Steve's free Goodyears too? It's a crock that the top dogs in a spec tire series STILL gets free tires, as if they have a choice of loyalties.

I know it's business and capitalism and all that. I just remember things like that when the mantra of 'affordable for everyone' comes out in a product press release.
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So if Steve was using 6 tires per night(2 front, 4 rear) then he could run almost 90 nights without buying a tire....guestimating the costs at 175/rear, and 150/front, which conservatively totals at $90K....no where do you suppose that $$ came from?

Z-man 3/2/10 1:35 PM

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More Tire news http://www.whowon.com/Results.asp?Tr...StoryID=284977


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