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I saw this on another board and thought it might be of interest to promoters and track prep people. I don't know anything about this product so don't take this as an endorsement. It is simply info. http://www.snisolutions.com/?id=products&cid=6

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Please forward that to Grandview!! :D

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- MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE

I don't know for sure, but this might be the ingredient that is used.

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There is no substitute for good track prep...

Just like promoting, most (not all) track owners are just too damn lazy these days to put in the effort and money, to do either correct.

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I wish all the ohio tracks would use the Lily Rotella tool that Haubstadt uses to break up the crust on top of track after sheepsfooting. Especially Skyline-man that place is like a sheet of ice from top to bottom. No dust, and plenty of water underneath, but that smooth, red clay just seals over easy. With the winged 410's, several of us broke the track record back in July one night when the track was actually really good-I think it's at 10.49 seconds. The last several shows of the year, we were qualifying @ mid-12 to 13 second laps...it was that slick. Makes me sick having to race on a track like that. I don't mind slick in the middle, but when there's no cushion whatsoever and no tackiness even on the bottom, it sucks. My right foot isn't that smart.:D

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Haubstadt mixes organic matter into their clay to help hold in the mosture. It is something that Tom has come up with. The track prep there is the best in the country for my money. :Steer

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They say that their solution is organic in nature. Magnesium chloride is inorganic.

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In my opinion they spend to much time messing with the track.

Bloomington can run all night with no additional track prep and it does not get near as dusty as Tri-State.

The last three ISW races were so dusty you could not see the cars, in fact people were trying to see which way the wind would blow so they would know which side of the track to sit .

July was my last trip to Tri-State. Having to sit through hours of track prep and still get a dusty track is not my idea of good racing or a good time.

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Uh, oh....now you've gone and done it Dyno Don. Stand by for a stern lecture from Jerry Shaw (and others). :wink1::emote20::wink1:

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This is a good product http://www.tracktac.com/tt/product.a...ment+55+gallon We had good tracks and the dust was minimal all year.:checkered:

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I know what you are talking about and understand where you are coming from but think back to last summer.. very little rain fall with high temps and wind... if you could find any track around here that could hold moisture they were doing something amazing.. you speak of Bloomington maybe the track wasnt real dusty but the one time i went there in late June the track was gone before hot laps was over.. the dust doesnt blow into the crowd there because in the summer the wind usually comes out of the soutwest or west.. atleast I think it does normally...

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they need to wet the track and then tear it up and then wet it again

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I will just add that Tri-State is by far the best track conditions that goes on year by year.I have no idea what the other poster or hoser is talking about taking to long they can redo the place in about twenty minutes and always start on time and do the same thing at intermission pretty much like clockwork.You should live over here in IL they only now one thing black slick dusty no passing chitholes, I have no problem driving to Haubstadt because I know what it will be like before I ever leave here and they have yet to disappointment me.

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I could not agree more. I go there often, but I also get tired of watching the tractors. The last time I was there I timed them just to see how long the tractors were actually on the track.

There were 210 minutes from the time the first car rolled onto the track for hot laps and the time they called the cars out for the feature. Of that 210 minutes, 75 minutes was spent watching the John Deere parade. Thats over 35% of the time spent watching track prep instead of racing!!! IMO that is too much time spent for the results obtained. By the way, I always check the wind direction on the NOAA website before leaving home to decide which side to sit on.

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That twenty minutes took well over a hour the only visit I've made to Haubstadt, IMHO the track was in great shape when they started their farm machinery show.

Still, It was great racing, The only reason I was a little upset at the 130am finish is I had to be somewhere at 7am EASTERN Time which gave me roughly 3hrs sleep.

Chuck

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It depends, it can be organic as stated. Actually you have both in your body.

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I have been told that I am full of "Organic Material" several times.

Jones can provide any track owner all of that organic material they want.

Actually I am glad Tommy stopped using it so much. You had to shower before leaving the track it was so strong smelling.

I harken back to DD's comment at Haubtadt this year. When asked about the track conditions, he replied "Needs more wood."
Pretty soon the place will start looking like the Nutley Velodrome.

Thought I had heard that he was adding Coke syrup in there as well.

The $500 per 55 gallon barrel of the stuff WBR referenced would likely turn the majority track owners away.

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I was towing a school teacher past a hog operation one day and they were spraying liquid manure on the corn field. If you have ever winessed this you know about the breath taking odor we experienced. She asked "What is that horrible odor? and Why are they spraying it on the corn?"
I told her it was pig poop and they were using it to fertilize the corn. She reacted like the smell had disappeared and replied: "I prefer my food to have organic fertilizer used on it!" :kookoo2:

We used 10 gallon of tracktac on 1/4 mile gray clay and dirt and it lasted for nearly 3 races. I have no stake in the company, it worked well, so I am letting the track promoters that read here know about it.

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Keith Hall would use hay in his prep! At least the start of the season. Along with the weeds. Out west here they use something like that for dry areas for planting. I think it breaks down in thirty days and feeds the plant after the water is used up.:applaud:

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Mark don't take what I said about the cost as a poke at you. Didn't mean it that way and sorry if it sounded like that. Just pointing out the cost. I am all for using something like this to help out. Seems a lot of tracks won't pony up for gas in the water truck, let alone an additive for the water. Some will.

I image Dave R. will do about anything to make his track the best it can be, as will Jiggs and Tommy.

Merry Christmas.

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No offense taken Gary, I was doing the same thing- letting the promo's know its not really that expensive.

...won't buy gas in the water truck! thats a funny one:rolling:
but you are right!

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To be to the point. Whatever Kokomo and Gas City " towards the end of the year" have been using or doing, keep up the good work. :thumb:

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By definition, magnesium chloride is a salt. I would consider it more bioinorganic.