Kasey Kahne problems
 

Gillett Evernham Motorsports driver Kasey Kahne faces a Jan. 8 court hearing on a misdemeanor battery charge stemming from a confrontation with a security guard Nov. 16 at Homestead-Miami Speedway.

Kahne is accused of pushing security guard Archibald Hutchinson after being asked to present a NASCAR credential. Kahne, wearing his driver's uniform, was trying to enter the motor home compound at the track.

Hutchinson was treated and released from the track's infield care center.

The maximum sentence for misdemeanor battery in Florida is one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Hutchinson also filed suit against Kahne on Tuesday in Florida's 11th Circuit Court in Miami for an unspecified amount, claiming Kahne caused him "severe physical injuries."

This from SpeedTV

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He'll get a reduced sentence with community service.......Do some photo ops with the local PD and end up as an honorary something or the other, much like Kurt Bush did a couple of years ago in Maracopa County AZ....

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Kasey has alot of money,so most likly,they will slap a big fine and end it there

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Seems to run from the bottom [Swindell] to the top KK. Lack of respect and money will buy his way out like Busch and Penske did.

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maybe its the wrong way to think here, but if he caused severe physical injuries to the security guard by pushing him, im thinking that the security guard might need to find another job. heres a thought, maybe we can have a match between Sammy and Kasey at chili bowl:emote20:

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You people are so judgemental with very little knowledge of the event(s).

You read a news article and don't have a clue what actually transpired, but have already found him guilty, fined, probationed, and/or doing community service.

Man, talk about a tough crowd.

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Personally I think the Security guard should be fined, Do Comunity service and be publicly humiliated for STUPIDITY.

Like I've ever seen any fan in a drivers uniform???????

Chuck

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It all seems kind of fishy to me, i mean KK is not exactly built like a brick house. I guess a push is a push but i really doubt it that this security guard received severe physical injuries. :action-smiley-049:

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I find it hard to believe that he could really hurt anybody. He's not what I call a body building tough guy. I agree, if you can't handle your business as a security guard, might be time to look for a new job.

Sounds like trying to cash in to me. No, I don't know the facts, but we've seen this stuff before with famous people.

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Originally Posted by Tim Watson:
It all seems kind of fishy to me,

Uh, could you make that kind of suspicious Tim? I'd buy you a Leinenkugels or some cheese or something. :wink1:

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In the court of law its a bit different, your sometimes innocent if you pass the board of public thought, which in this case guilty, now poor Kasey you have fun proving your innocents, you have money they think, and the poor guy who shouldn't be working the track gate where, people of your stature go to and from your motorhomes, well he just shouldn't be working that gate, especially if you had a bad a season as what Kasey has had. So the poor gate guard needs a couple bucks to get through the winter. The guard probably fell out of his chair looking at the women that were looking at Kasey. Just my thought ! Not trying to stir up any B.S.

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Its seems to me that the post in which this guard was manning is one of the more important at a track, it doesnt make good sense to place someone there that is not familiar with the drivers, however this is the same group of folks that sees no benefit in NASCAR having its own traveling safety crew. :doh:

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Originally Posted by openwheelKT:
I find it hard to believe that he could really hurt anybody. He's not what I call a body building tough guy. I agree, if you can't handle your business as a security guard, might be time to look for a new job.

Sounds like trying to cash in to me. No, I don't know the facts, but we've seen this stuff before with famous people.

We've also see Famous people acting like they have no rules to follow. Who knows?
Chuck, saying he was probably in a hurry to get away from the clutzy girls and ran him over accidently.

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Found this on another website:

Arrest Report

Lawsuit

Links from Miami WPLG Local 10

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You should have blacked out the address and the phone number. JMO The kid may be getting some unwanted phone and mail messages.

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I realized that after I posted it. It's already been changed.

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Good find Sandy!

I find it hard to believe shoving someone is cause for a Battery charge, Assult but Battery incites that the asultant intended to do physical harm, Not move him out of the way.

Not defending Kasey but this is clearly a mix up and probably blown way out of proportion, Mild scrapes and bruises are not LIFE Endagering and not exactly Mental anguish grounds either.

Chuck

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It could have been a LOT worse!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4

:emote20:

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I'm thinking before you're eligible to check credentials on a celebrity you should know how to spell their name.:doh:



Ted

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I think the whole thing is bs. As everyone else said Kasey doesnt seem like a person that would beat the crap out of someone. This guy is just trying to get some money out of the deal.

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
We've also see Famous people acting like they have no rules to follow. Who knows?
Chuck, saying he was probably in a hurry to get away from the clutzy girls and ran him over accidently.

Point is, he isn't one of those kind of people. I'm not talking about EVERY famous person out there. Looks like BS to me.

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How dare that security guard question someone like KK.........Seems some folks just know there place.:angry-smiley-007:

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That's Kasey's problem and I'm not going to concern myself with it. I have enough of my own problems to be concerned about.

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Originally Posted by Bluteam:
I'm thinking before you're eligible to check credentials on a celebrity you should know how to spell their name.:doh:



Ted

Actually, if I were running the show, I WOULDN'T want the security to be that at ease.... JMO.

Remember, if Kasey would have had his credentials, there never would have been a problem...

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Originally Posted by RacinFool:
How dare that security guard question someone like KK.........Seems some folks just know there place.:angry-smiley-007:

From JIM MORRISON,

How dare that security person do his job by challenging someone -- even someone famous -- who does not have the proper credential. I think the lawsuit and ******** charges might be BS but sounds like a little bit of ego on Kasey's part. "I'm Kasey Kahne. The rules don't apply to me." -- the same as Mr. Busch telling the copy, "Don't you KNOW who I AM."
Team uniforms differ very little from driver uniforms, and often you can find a driver uniform for auction at a charity function, or on E-Bay.
Everyone should have their credential ready.

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Hey bigmojo, I hope you realize that was a wiseazz comment. Not that i really care but in all seriousness the guard has a job and to keep the job has to check for accurate credentials. Not everyone is starstruck by these guys.:eek:

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Originally Posted by Hawker:
Actually, if I were running the show, I WOULDN'T want the security to be that at ease.... JMO.

Remember, if Kasey would have had his credentials, there never would have been a problem...

I understand. Not excusing anything or anyone - just wondering how anyone, especially security and cops, working at a Nascar event could not recognize someone as high profile as Kasey Kahne - especially considering he was in a driving suit.

Again - not excusing - just saying, use some common sense.

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Ah, Kasey may have been in costume for his new beer sponsor. He was probably dressed like the wheelie guy at Haubstadt with big muscles and all and the guard didn't recognize him. After all, who wants a 5 foot 4 inch, 120 pound guy with a pale face doing BUD commercials?

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I know K.K. is 6'5" and 225lbs.:emote20:. but I don't think.... I have ever heard of him being a driver who gets into lot of conflicts with alot of people. Sounds like a very poor securty guyto me!!!

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Do you mean Beermuscles?? LOL!!!!:angry-smiley-007:

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good thing carl edwards had his pass:eek:

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Originally Posted by Bluteam:
I understand. Not excusing anything or anyone - just wondering how anyone, especially security and cops, working at a Nascar event could not recognize someone as high profile as Kasey Kahne - especially considering he was in a driving suit.

Again - not excusing - just saying, use some common sense.

Lets look at some facts:

1-The guys name was Archibald, he was doing a minimal job(probably part time) for minimal pay. There is a really good chance he does not know KK! The job description was to check all for credentials , suit or not!
2- Anytime you use physical force, when you are not being attacked, you are guilty. Why push anyone to the ground that is not phisically putting you in danger!

Final thoughts:
1- My bet is Archy was not a very big guy
2- The guy that is the witness, is also the guy that filled out the police report! OPPS!!
3- Archy needs to hold out for $250,000 min. Even if he pre-planned trying to agitate a rich driver. If your going to attack people physically, than be willing to pay the price!!

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Originally Posted by ossuks:
Lets look at some facts:

1-The guys name was Archibald, he was doing a minimal job(probably part time) for minimal pay. There is a really good chance he does not know KK! The job description was to check all for credentials , suit or not!
2- Anytime you use physical force, when you are not being attacked, you are guilty. Why push anyone to the ground that is not phisically putting you in danger!

Final thoughts:
1- My bet is Archy was not a very big guy
2- The guy that is the witness, is also the guy that filled out the police report! OPPS!!
3- Archy needs to hold out for $250,000 min. Even if he pre-planned trying to agitate a rich driver. If your going to attack people physically, than be willing to pay the price!!

Ya, you're right. I'm just used to seeing the local law enforcement people volunteer to be security so they can get closer to the celebs so they can get the bragging rights of being close personal friends with someone they've never met and don't have to wait in line for the autograph and.............blah, blah, blah.

I just think they could have tried a little harder to spell his name right. Errors in police reports are the first thing a good attorney looks for.

I'm just saying .................common sense should have prevailed - on both sides. Attacks come in many forms. Apparently it was a bad day for all involved.

Ted:)

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WOW, Blueteam didn't take my post to heart, and responded with a very well worded post. Thank -You!

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Kasey has his limits just like every single one of us. I bet he just pushed this guy aside (not to the gound like Urlacher) in disgust and frustration. It happens. The only reason the police report was filed was to back up the lawsuit. Kasye will right a check to keep this out of the news as much as he can. Sad to see this and the Detective is in on the take. Read his report! He writes it as if he took a online accredidation course from Yale. He knew where this report was going and spiced it up.

I have never had to call the "on Call" Atorney General for permission to arrest someone!???

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Maybe the security guard mistook him for Jimmy Johnson or Jeff Gordon. In that case the shove would have been justified:checkered:

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Over reactions by both sides, Quite honestly I be the security guard got smart first, WELL THEN YOU CAN'T ENTER! Instead of Could you please wait till we get someone to confirm your who you say you are??

The Charge is Batterie and again I'll state that means Kasey pushed him to the ground *THEN BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF HIM* WRONG!
Chuck, who says you could be injured from a shove but that was not the intent of the action.

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Ok, so I hang arround this board EVERY day though do not post much, but I'd like to put my two cents on this one. I know some one extremely close to Kasey and the fact of the matter is the 300 plus pound security gaurd is looking for a free lunch. Kasey simply tried to walk arround him they bumped, the big guy lost his balance and fell down thus causing massive ego trauma. Kasey was then handcuffed for about ten min, the cops got statements and let him go WITH OUT cridentials as they obviously could tell by the driver suite it was really Kahne. Now I no rules are rules and they should be followed but c'mon falling on your ass does not call for a law suite, all though we do live in the good ole Sue happy US of A :doh:

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I have the solution

Do not let anyone with out a HARD CARD into the pits and garages this limits it to team members, sponsers and drivers

Fans should never be in the pits to many people are trying to do their job and do not need to be bothered

At most tracks the RV lock up is right next to the garages so if it requirers proper creds to get in the garages then there is not a need for a guard at the RV gate

Lets face here are Kasey's creds most likely on the floor of his RV where he changed into his drivers suit

The same place every other drivers creds were

He is not going to have his creds on him when he is in the car and in today's everything ends up on e-bay lifestyle it would not be safe for him to leave them anywhere else

Go to a sprint car track and see how often they ask to see the arm band of a driver in uniform or if the track does not have arm bands check to see how many drivers walking though a secured gate have the pass on them when they have their suit on

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Originally Posted by smbpreformance:
I have the solution

Do not let anyone with out a HARD CARD into the pits and garages this limits it to team members, sponsers and drivers

Sean you know thats not gonna happen, Theres too much money to be made. sad but true. It's also a requirement by many sponsors to allow SPECIAL GUEST into the backlot at these events.
Chuck