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Flatrightrear 12/14/07 4:53 PM

Big late season sprint shows
 
Don't put these on your schedule in ink just yet but don't be surprised to see $10,000 to win MSCS/USAC shows at Haubstadt Sept. 27 and at L'burg Oct 4. Ties in real well with Eldora Sept. 20. Also don't look for any ISW shows at Terre Haute in 2008 even though it seems pretty sure the Action Track will indeed have action next year. USAC does have three dates penciled in for Terre Haute in 2008, however. On Labor Day weekend Haubstadt will be running on Sunday night so the DuQouin decision will be there for some folks again.

Flatrightrear 12/15/07 3:12 PM

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Man, I thought I had some fairly interesting news here but it is getting the same response I got from the pretty girls back in high school- NONE! :rolling:

AERO410SCJA 12/15/07 3:22 PM

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I thought it was this year,I saw 08 and the rest was blah blah blah.:rolling:

Sprint63122 12/15/07 3:33 PM

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I liked the post and it looks like another trip to Tri-State next year two nice shows in september now there.

Kirk Spridgeon 12/15/07 3:35 PM

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Good work, Tom.
Those were some of the things I wanted to know...

Flatrightrear 12/15/07 3:47 PM

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I appreciate those of you who had pity on me and have once again boosted my ego back to it's normal stratospheric level. I also asked my master dirt track preparing source if he considered having the Hut 100 at his place and he said he would only do it if USAC would guarantee him three years to build the event but they would not do that. I think that is a mistake on USAC'S part as Haubstadt would be a premier track to showcase a premier event.

Pat O'Connor Fan 12/15/07 4:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flatrightrear (Post 21010)
he would only do it if USAC would guarantee him three years to build the event but they would not do that.

USAC stepped on their what??
:headbang:

Joey Woods 12/15/07 5:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flatrightrear (Post 21010)
Fill in the blank folks. ______________________________________ as Haubstadt would be a premier track to showcase a premier event.

That place is truly amazing, I know I ***** every now and then about TSS but the old girl is like my wife, I wouldnt trade her for nothing. I'm not a big mod fan but with the rep that place has could you imagine how huge a $10,000 win modified show would be there.

BrentTFunk 12/15/07 7:33 PM

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I think the only place for the hut 100 is Terre Haute. I like Haubstadt, but wish they would run Sat on labor day weekend. I bet attendence would be better.

Flatrightrear 12/15/07 9:50 PM

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I like Terre Haute for the Hut,too, but it would be nice to give the event the stability that it needs to grow and not be treated like an unwanted stepchild. I also believe a 100 lap midget race would be an absolute close dogfight at Haubstadt's bullring.

Pat O'Connor Fan 12/15/07 9:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrentTFunk (Post 21046)
I think the only place for the hut 100 is Terre Haute.

Yes, the Hut Hundred belongs at Terre Haute. But a Hut Hundred at Haubstadt would surely have been better than no Hut Hundred at all, even to you.

Dwight Clock 12/15/07 9:57 PM

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If Terre Haute is to return under new management, as it appears will happen, then it needs to be able to return to it's rightful place of prominence on the schedules. Cannibalizing the events will help to prevent that from happening. While there is no doubt a 100 lap midget show at Haubstadt would be a great event the Hut Hundred should stay at THAT along with the Tony Hulman Classic for sprints and the Sumar classic for SC.

Flatrightrear 12/16/07 1:06 AM

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BrentTFunk- Tom Helfrich told me Friday that they had 10 more cars and a bigger crowd on Sunday last year than they had on Sat. night the previous year when they did the MSCS/USAC show. Haubstadt is traditionally a Sunday night track and I think the casual race fan in these parts had a habit of hitting the Labor Day show on Sunday, hence the better crowd on Sunday.
As far as DuQuoin is concerned with that conflicting with Haubstadt, USAC and ARCA swapped racing days which created that particular problem. You didn't ask about that. I just threw it in here.
Tom had a five year agreement on a handshake with USAC to run a Sat. night show with them on Labor Day weekend but USAC messed that up by creating a conflict with the midget race in Wisconsin the next year. Tom now chooses to do what he feels is best and that is have a MSCS race on Sunday.

Flatrightrear 12/16/07 1:18 AM

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I couldn't agree with you more, Dwight. It is so important for the right promoter to operate Terre Haute and bring it back to prominence. Another season of Arizona dust storm conditions will turn off even the most rabid fan and that would be a shame.

Pat O'Connor Fan 12/16/07 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Clock (Post 21058)
Cannibalizing the events will help to prevent that from happening.

I repeat:
Yes, the Hut Hundred belongs at Terre Haute. But a Hut Hundred at Haubstadt would surely have been better than no Hut Hundred at all

BrentTFunk 12/16/07 12:00 PM

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Flat right rear, I am looking at it from pure selfish reasons. It travel wise helps me to see 2 races instead of one. Believe me I never complained when duquoin was on Sun. and I had to hustle to Tri State for Sun night.

Sprint63122 12/16/07 6:17 PM

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Flatrightrear I am glad you posted there on what happened to the race being run on saturday night and what happened to make it go back to being sunday nights again.It is amazing to see what actually goes on with some of these deals looks like Tom has been more than nice trying to get some things going there and working with usac but both times usac has been able to mess this up yet again.If a organization like this can not work with someone like Tom and make things happen has he apparently tried on his part there with the type of facilities he has and the great track to race on makes you wonder just how anyone can work with usac.

Kirk Spridgeon 12/16/07 7:16 PM

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In defense of USAC, their cooperation with BMARA led to a resurgence of the Pepsi Nationals (Firemen's Nationals, whatever) and one of the toughest fields in that race's history. While I, too, miss the race at Haubstadt on Saturday night, it also provides a great race on Sunday night for those non-Silver Crown guys, and anybody who wants to go race a midget in one of the best midget events of the season can do that on Saturday night....

I am more interested in seeing additional races at places like Terre Haute, IRP, Toledo, Mansfield and some pavement tracks out East, while also filling weekends in late April, late May, and Independence Day weekend!

petey 12/16/07 8:28 PM

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Love the thought of another $10K to win show at Tri-State in Sept.! Even though the racing has been falling off some at DuQuoin, I'll still be there come Labor Day weekend since it only happens once a year.

Dwight Clock 12/16/07 8:56 PM

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One very interesting weekend late in the year is Sep. 27 - 28. Haubstadt has a $10K to win MSCS/USAC sprint show Saturday night and Winchester has the USAC sprints Sunday afternoon. It is also old timers weekend at Winchester. Coming the week after the Three Crown at Eldora and the week before another $10K to win MSCS/USAC sprint show at the 'Burg makes for a great late season stretch.

miledirt 12/16/07 10:14 PM

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I sure wish Haubstadt and DuQuoin weren't the same night on Labor Day weekend. I love Haubstadt, but Silver Crown on dirt under the lights is once a year and I won't miss it.

Charles Nungester 12/16/07 11:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Clock (Post 21159)
One very interesting weekend late in the year is Sep. 27 - 28. Haubstadt has a $10K to win MSCS/USAC sprint show Saturday night and Winchester has the USAC sprints Sunday afternoon. It is also old timers weekend at Winchester. Coming the week after the Three Crown at Eldora and the week before another $10K to win MSCS/USAC sprint show at the 'Burg makes for a great late season stretch.

Id love to see Florence put a friday night sprint-LM show right up against the Burgs race for 5-10 grand.

Was the first great racing I've seen at Florence this year in decades.


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