Cooler Tax? Would you be for it?
 

After reading the boards for the last few years; one of the things that keeps coming up is coolers and their allowance in the stands.

We all know that tracks don't allow coolers because they are trying to generate income via concession sales.(Although they can create a hazard in the stands) They have to. They are a business and they have to turn a profit to stay one.

I also understand the desire of fans to bring your own beveridges and food.

Could a compromise be made if a track offered a cooler section, but in turn to bring in a larger cooler, you paid some sort of fee of $10 or $15 dollars. Say a ticket is $10, but if you want a large cooler it would be $25(Only for the one person, one other adult could benefit at the regular price and children would have their regular price as well.) You sit in a section that accomidates the coolers and have at it.

After a few cold ones and some sandwiches, the difference is made up for the customer,the track owner has some coin and the customer has their own food and beveridge.

At first glance that may seem unfair, but really everyone gets what they want or need without anyone being offended.

Just a question that may or may not help the tracks and the customers experience.

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Oh my!!!! Here we go with the back gate also with more fees. Let's see.... entry fee :7:.... pit pass fee :7:... parking fee .. now the cooler fee :7:. Maybe install an ATM on the grounds also to help pay all the fees. Might as well add a piss and dump restroom fee while were at it. That will help the customers experience for sure. The customer will need it after drinking the cooler dry. If they are going to do it at the front gate, they'll do it at the back gate.

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Just a question, not a mandate.

No offense Don, but you are only looking at it from your side which is I have a fully loaded kitchen in my RV and I shouldn't have to pay more because I am the show. All of which are points I agree with, but the fans don't have that luxery.

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hahahahaha Hey... I've had the back gate security guard (AKA back gate fee collector ) come in my motorhome and see if I'm hiding anybody in the bathroom.

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We welcome coolers at Lawrenceburg, Just the smaller ones though, so they don't take up too much room. I was talking to someone yesterday that said they went to a certain track, and they would'nt even allow them to bring in a box of animal crackers for their child, now to me that is just ridiculus. When i was a kid, the only way we could go to the races was to pack a cooler and some snacks, back then is was ok at all the tracks we went to i believe. I guess if you had to you could leave your stuff in the car and make a few trips to your car, which is a inconveinence.
Bottomline is, we allow coolers and drinks in the grandstands, we have free parking and free camping, and i think we have very fair concession prices, especially compared to most sporting events i have been to.
Hope to see you at Lawrenceburg with your cooler and animal crackers.:2:
Thanks, Dave

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Easy question.............No way

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
We welcome coolers at Lawrenceburg, Just the smaller ones though, so they don't take up too much room. I was talking to someone yesterday that said they went to a certain track, and they would'nt even allow them to bring in a box of animal crackers for their child, now to me that is just ridiculus. When i was a kid, the only way we could go to the races was to pack a cooler and some snacks, back then is was ok at all the tracks we went to i believe. I guess if you had to you could leave your stuff in the car and make a few trips to your car, which is a inconveinence.
Bottomline is, we allow coolers and drinks in the grandstands, we have free parking and free camping, and i think we have very fair concession prices, especially compared to most sporting events i have been to.
Hope to see you at Lawrenceburg with your cooler and animal crackers.:2:
Thanks, Dave

Yep Dave!!.that would be KOKOMO!!..for me it was a 1/2 bottle of water!!..and thanks to You 'n Crew at da 'Burg!!...its always a fun time at ur Track!!.....
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So many people always seem to be upset that only the smaller coolers are allowed at places so I am interested in seeing if people would be willing to pay extra for the luxery of having the bigger coolers allowed.

At first it seems unfair, but for two adults and two kids, bringing the larger coolers would be a money saver in the long run for them; especially if they like an adult beveridge or 10, plus the tracks may not have to carry as much inventory and workers. Lessening spoilage and freeing up cash. Fans get what they want and the track gets what they want.

That said; I'm sure many tracks already have good policies, but just seeing if there is a compromise.

I realize that at a Pacers/Colts or any pro team for that matter,there isn't even a question of coolers, but racing being a traditionally outdoor sport with a less formal feel has usually allowed coolers of some sort.

If you pay the extra $10.00-$15.00 for the larger cooler, you could possibly save $10-$20 for the night.

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Don't forget that most states have a carry in alcoholic beverage rule; if they're selling beer, then you can't carry any beer in.

Some of us have been known to try and hide a few brews; when this is the case, I can understand why tracks have such strict cooler laws. I think that any track has a right to enforce any cooler rule; but they should post a BIG sign stating what those rules are, and then enforce the rule consistently. And if you don't like or agree with the rules, then go somewhere else...

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Nice going there Leaders Edge. Ol' D moore was sleeping and you had to try and sneek your hand into his change purse:3:

Chuy

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My change purse and bill clip are empty from paying all the back gate fees.

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Originally Posted by LEADERS EDGE:
So many people always seem to be upset that only the smaller coolers are allowed at places so I am interested in seeing if people would be willing to pay extra for the luxery of having the bigger coolers allowed.

At first it seems unfair, but for two adults and two kids, bringing the larger coolers would be a money saver in the long run for them; especially if they like an adult beveridge or 10, plus the tracks may not have to carry as much inventory and workers. Lessening spoilage and freeing up cash. Fans get what they want and the track gets what they want.

That said; I'm sure many tracks already have good policies, but just seeing if there is a compromise.

I realize that at a Pacers/Colts or any pro team for that matter,there isn't even a question of coolers, but racing being a traditionally outdoor sport with a less formal feel has usually allowed coolers of some sort.

If you pay the extra $10.00-$15.00 for the larger cooler, you could possibly save $10-$20 for the night.

It's an interesting idea. At Indy, the large coolers have to be parked under the grandstands, so...I had the idea of renting lockers under the grandstands or somewhere convenient (like they do at an airport only to fit a cooler) for X dollars and you put your large cooler in there for the evening and it's in nobody's way in the stands. Nobody could break in if you are holding the key. Just thinking out loud.

Or maybe not.

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Haubstadt allows you to bring in a cooler and whatever food or drink item of your choice. I always thought that if this rule was changed the attendance would go down. I don't know if a cooler fee is the answer but I've found myself sneaking h2o into Kentucky Speedway before and there is something extremely wrong with that imo.
It seems to me that Ky Speedway has been showing a lot of tin on race day this year and I think the cooler is a big player in the attendance issue.

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Cooler Tax? Would you be for it?

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HELL NO!

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Originally Posted by sprinter25:
Don't forget that most states have a carry in alcoholic beverage rule; if they're selling beer, then you can't carry any beer in.

Some of us have been known to try and hide a few brews; when this is the case, I can understand why tracks have such strict cooler laws. I think that any track has a right to enforce any cooler rule; but they should post a BIG sign stating what those rules are, and then enforce the rule consistently. And if you don't like or agree with the rules, then go somewhere else...

It's not even a matter of bringing in beer. We like to bring along bottles of water in a cooler. We usually end up going to the concessions as well. If it's a particularly hot or humid day, an extra bottle or two of water is nice to have in reserve. Plus I'm lazy, and once I plant my butt in the seat, I like to stay there!:2:

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Originally Posted by sprinter25:
Don't forget that most states have a carry in alcoholic beverage rule; if they're selling beer, then you can't carry any beer in.

Some of us have been known to try and hide a few brews; when this is the case, I can understand why tracks have such strict cooler laws. I think that any track has a right to enforce any cooler rule; but they should post a BIG sign stating what those rules are, and then enforce the rule consistently. And if you don't like or agree with the rules, then go somewhere else...

Is Indiana one of these states?

It is funny how some promoters hide behind that if you sell beer, you can not allow beer carried in. So how do you explain IMS, ORP, THAT, Haubstadt and Salem to name a few.

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
We welcome coolers at Lawrenceburg, Just the smaller ones though, so they don't take up too much room. I was talking to someone yesterday that said they went to a certain track, and they would'nt even allow them to bring in a box of animal crackers for their child, now to me that is just ridiculus. When i was a kid, the only way we could go to the races was to pack a cooler and some snacks, back then is was ok at all the tracks we went to i believe. I guess if you had to you could leave your stuff in the car and make a few trips to your car, which is a inconveinence.
Bottomline is, we allow coolers and drinks in the grandstands, we have free parking and free camping, and i think we have very fair concession prices, especially compared to most sporting events i have been to.
Hope to see you at Lawrenceburg with your cooler and animal crackers.:2:
Thanks, Dave

I always get to your track early so I can park close to the front gate. That way I can get a pass out and have a beer or a snack during down time or when something is running that I do not care to watch.

The problem with this is the local fuzz think I am selling drugs or up to something illegal, because I make several trips to my car. I have been searched once and questioned twice because I go to my auto to often in their mind.

On a side note. Why is there so much police presence at The "Burg? With the exception of THAT it is hard to see a law enforcement officer at any other track. Is it because both are at a public fairground?

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I like the Lawrenceburg FUZZ;)They have a sense of humor:32:
GO STEELERS:5::5:

I say NO, TO ALL TAXES

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it's not a tax , it's a cooler stimulus package :)

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Don,
The Police presence may have something to do with available officers and the track has to pay for it. Terre Haute and Lawrenceburg probably have larger Police forces so more are available to work the detail.

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Dyno Don, Here ya go, straight from the Indiana ATC:
Temporary Beer / Wine Permit Type 118 A temporary permit is good for beer and wine only - not liquor. If you want to have liquor served at your event, you must have a licensed alcoholic beverage caterer. A temporary permit is valid for on premises consumption only. "Carry out" and "carry on" is not permitted.

Thanks for your concearns. I don't know what kind of liceanse anyone else has, and really don't care. As far as security we have 5 to 6 officers at each event.
Thanks, Dave

Originally Posted by Dyno Don:
Is Indiana one of these states?

It is funny how some promoters hide behind that if you sell beer, you can not allow beer carried in. So how do you explain IMS, ORP, THAT, Haubstadt and Salem to name a few.

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I always get to your track early so I can park close to the front gate. That way I can get a pass out and have a beer or a snack during down time or when something is running that I do not care to watch.

The problem with this is the local fuzz think I am selling drugs or up to something illegal, because I make several trips to my car. I have been searched once and questioned twice because I go to my auto to often in their mind.

On a side note. Why is there so much police presence at The "Burg? With the exception of THAT it is hard to see a law enforcement officer at any other track. Is it because both are at a public fairground?

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I like to drink adult beverages at the races but if you have kids with u, u dont need the adult beverages unless your have a dseginated driver. maybe one of the kids

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Isn't the whole point of bringing a cooler in to save a few bucks?? Why would anyone want to spend $15-$20 to pay a tax on that?? heck they probably don't even have that much invested in the contents of the coolers !! The larger sporting venues charge ridiculous prices for food and beverages...the smaller ones like these good tracks we race at are very reasonable at the concessions (excluding alcohol, because I don't know who sells it and/or what they charge) for food and drinks. If people want or need to bring their own in, so be it....as long as it complies with that tracks rules.

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I always get to your track early so I can park close to the front gate. That way I can get a pass out and have a beer or a snack during down time or when something is running that I do not care to watch.[/QUOTE]

is that in case the big bad bikers are there...:14::14:

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A cooler tax, absolutely not.

What if the only way you could afford to go was by being able to take a small cooler. When my Dad raced they had usually 4 kids to get in. My Mom took a cooler and I got a sandwich and a can of pop and was told not to ask for money.

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Originally Posted by Dyno Don:
The problem with this is the local fuzz think I am selling drugs or up to something illegal, because I make several trips to my car. I have been searched once and questioned twice because I go to my auto to often in their mind.

Try dyeing your hair and beard another color. Smiling once in awhile might help too.

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Originally Posted by Dyno Don:
Is Indiana one of these states?

It is funny how some promoters hide behind that if you sell beer, you can not allow beer carried in. So how do you explain IMS, ORP, THAT, Haubstadt and Salem to name a few.

On a side note. Why is there so much police presence at The "Burg? With the exception of THAT it is hard to see a law enforcement officer at any other track. Is it because both are at a public fairground?

Found out this past weekend that Salem is no longer allowing alcohol to be carried in. They are searching coolers at the gate.:24: Don't know how to explain the others.

I normally see quite a bit of police at Haubstadt, but have never seen them hassling anyone.

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Originally Posted by Andrew S. Quinn:
Try dyeing your hair and beard another color. Smiling once in awhile might help too.

Something this.

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:19::19:You people are lucky to even have this option. Here in Wisconsin you can't carry anything into any type of event period. No carry ins at any race tracks and i can't even carry any BEER into my softball league complex. :19:

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The possitive.
BLoomington, Any size cooler, bring your own beer if ya want. FAMILYS OUT THE WAZZOO PACKED Hillside full of fans. Two concession lines non stop till mid features. :6::6: The don't sell Booze at the track therefore LAW DOSE NOT APPLY! :6::6::6:

Terre, Allowed coolers, Really didn't check for brew. :6:

Burg, Cooler, Ice water and soda, Really helps with overal expense of getting to the track and then admissions
I often find myself once or twice a night stopping by the concession for a cheesy burger or Pretzel. Reguardless, It isn't a hastle or a Shock to have to shell out a ton just to stay hydrated and happy. Downside is No BYOB but it isn't too bad if ya wanna buy a couple :6:

The bad, Gas City. No coolers, In a way i can see it, Their stands cant even hold the people comfortably. However, They don't shake you down are friendly and have the best concession stand and most choices in the state bar none! Wash..........


The UGLY. Kokomo. Don't wear a jacket or baggy pants, They litterally shake you down, Check every bag of any kind ect. Meanwhile a Drunkfest goes on in the parking lot where you don't actually know that your car is safe.
How can Kokomo have a fan apreciation day with this policy? They didn't make me feel apreciated on a normal show?????? The racings good, BUt I'll go elsewhere :7::7::7:

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I have watched this thread, so here are my thoughts, carrying in a cooler or not doesn't really bother me that much,
however the person that brings one or two "seats"that interfere with the people in front or back of them, maybe they should be charged for the "extra" seating.:)

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
I have watched this thread, so here are my thoughts, carrying in a cooler or not doesn't really bother me that much,
however the person that brings one or two "seats"that interfere with the people in front or back of them, maybe they should be charged for the "extra" seating.:)

Dan,

I certainly agree with you about the seats. Some of these people are bringing in seats that are almost as big as a LaZBoy recliner.
As far as coolers go, I don't drink beer but I do want to bring in water and some snacks. I don't go to Kokomo because the gate guard made me throw away a styrofoam cup of ice water. Kokomo can kiss my :26:!

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[QUOTE=Charles Nungester;126165]The possitive.
BLoomington, Any size cooler, bring your own beer if ya want. FAMILYS OUT THE WAZZOO PACKED Hillside full of fans. Two concession lines non stop till mid features. The don't sell Booze at the track therefore LAW DOSE NOT APPLY!
Terre, Allowed coolers, Really didn't check for brew.
Burg, Cooler, Ice water and soda, Really helps with overal expense of getting to the track and then admissions
I often find myself once or twice a night stopping by the concession for a cheesy burger or Pretzel. Reguardless, It isn't a hastle or a Shock to have to shell out a ton just to stay hydrated and happy. Downside is No BYOB but it isn't too bad if ya wanna buy a couple
The bad, Gas City. No coolers, In a way i can see it, Their stands cant even hold the people comfortably. However, They don't shake you down are friendly and have the best concession stand and most choices in the state bar none! Wash..........


The UGLY. Kokomo. Don't wear a jacket or baggy pants, They litterally shake you down, Check every bag of any kind ect. Meanwhile a Drunkfest goes on in the parking lot where you don't actually know that your car is safe.
How can Kokomo have a fan apreciation day with this policy? They didn't make me feel apreciated on a normal show?????? The racings good, BUt I'll go elsewhere QUOTE]


Add to positive list:
Haubstadt............Coolers and food and beverages of you choice are allowed to be brought in at all times. They also sell your favorite brew if you forgot your cooler.............Excellent track food and attractive bartender to boot :9::9:

All for naught, cause we can't get a race in for all of the rain right on top of the track.

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Why would you even ask that :11: :7: :34:

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Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
My change purse and bill clip are empty from paying all the back gate fees.

Don't forget the transponder fee and 1 way radio fees. Its the racers responsibility to buy timing devices and communications for the tracks he runs at according to some of the "fans" that post on here.:15:

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Yep, and don't forget the mandated purple tires :7: at twice the price :7: of the banned competition.